October 2000

New Book! FPs - US & UK
	10/31/2000: Sam - Pendemonium
	The new Lambrou book, Fountain Pens US and UK has been printed and will be delivered to us in about 2 weeks . The book is $75, we are offering FREE shipping on Fountain Pens-US and UK with your advance reservation. Complete details on our website - http://www.pendemonium.com Click the Reference Books button to take you directly to our book section and a view of the cover of Fountain Pens - US and UK, or feel free to email for further information. Good Collecting -- Sam

PENS FOR SALE
	10/31/2000: Marv'
	If you are looking for vintage Parker, Wahl/Eversharp/Waterman, Sheaffer in mint or near mint condition, I have a few . Not cheap, but quality. Let me know what you need.

Pelikans
	10/31/2000: Larry Shelton
	Michael Fultz just wrote a brief history of Pelikan over on PenBid. There is also a book out "Pelikan Schreibgerate, Writing Instruments, 1927-1997" by Jurgen Dittmer and Martin Lehmann. There's also a Pelikan web site, http://www.pelikan-srw.com

Pelikans
	10/31/2000: Marlin523
	I want to know more about these pens and their history. Can anyone tell me if there are any publications and/or websites dedicated to Pelikan Pens?

Big Red and a MB lever fill
	10/31/2000: Gary
	Today I picked up a Sr. Duofold with 1 band. The original nib was cracked and the owner replaced it with a parker arrow nib. I have used the pen all day and it is great, i wonder why I buy new and some LE's when vintage is where it is at. What a classic and straightforward pen. How big of deal is it if the nib/feed are not original and if i decide to replace, what is the cost Also picked up a MB lever filler #2 from 1922-1924 with org. nib , hard rubber and oxidized as you would expect.Here is the killer, it has no cap. Can i complete the deal - does anyone have a cap for this pen they would like to sell? I have not dipped the pen yet, but will do so soon. It has a flex nib I may be through with new pens and only deal with vintage pens. Gary

Parker Vac . and Swan for sell
	10/31/2000: Joel
	Parker Vacumatic Maxima,Black,very good imprints,Broad nib size,two tone,working,near mint condition,no box,no papers,U$400+shipping USA Swan Self Filler SM 205/59 Italian Marble, made around 1935-40.Near mint condition,box and papers.Used but not abuse it!U$300 + shipping USA. Credit Cards only.Thanks.Joel-S.Fco.

sales
	10/31/2000: matthew
	dear sirs could anyone please tell me if there is any website that i can find out how many parker pens were sold in one single calendar year or does anyone know of any figures that they can help me out with a essay for university yours hopefully Matthew

Monthly Promotion for Rotring, Sheaffer, Parker, Waterman, etc
	10/31/2000: Erica S.
	We are offering special discount on selected Rotring, Waterman, Parker & Sheaffer models. Please take a look at:- http://www.pensplanet.com

Duofold Super Sale
	10/31/2000: Esther
	I have Duofold's in Jade, Jasper, and Lapis, at insane prices. Thank you.

Funky Conklin Clip
	10/31/2000: Bob Whitmire
	Small Conklin pencil, 4-1/2 inches, but nice. Imprint faded, but Toledo is very much a part of it. Clip unusual. Any ID help appreciated. http://www.moosemeadow.com/images/Conklin_Clip.jpg Thanx!

FS Italian Vintage Pens
	10/31/2000: Daniele
	Hello! The "November Pen List" will be available from 11/04! Only Italian Vintage Pens at very reasonable prices! If you are interested, please email me. T.I.A. Daniele

Retro Conklins
	10/30/2000: Len Provisor
	Thanks Steve and Stephen. Many new pen issues, LE's and regular production are beautiful works of art, but to me there is nothing more "enduring" than an "endurable" vintage design that can "endure" style and design variations over the years. Hmmm, can only guess whats down the road for Conklin. How about that Conway-Stewart Churchill? Anyone get their hands on this pen?

New Nozac
	10/30/2000: Stephen Lam
	I am a Conklin nozac lover. On the alt.collecting pen-pencil newsgroup this subject was raised recently. You may wish to check the opinions expressed there. I am not really surprised to note that the new Nozac is made by Visconti as we also have the crescent resurrected by the same company. One good thing about such reissues is they will probably make pen collectors treasure the vintage versions they have more.

NEW NOZAC
	10/30/2000: Steve@PENSTOP
	New Conklins look great! It is Rob Rosenberg's baby and he has a great background in fountain pens. This appears to be just the start in bringing back a great brand in pen history. Rob acknowledges a lot more on the drawing board, but he would rather suprise us. Rob will be at the Ohio Pen Show (late Saturday or Sunday) so stop by and say hello and take a look for yourself.

How's the new NOZAC ?
	10/30/2000: Len Provisor
	Can hardly wait to visit the Ohio Pen Show later this week and get my mits on a few new pens. Anyone who attended NJ and able to give a review on the new Conklin Nozac, and also the Conway-Stewart Churchill ? Thanks

curent value of dupont stock
	10/30/2000: pankil
	I need to know what is the curent value of Dupont stock.

Nib Separation
	10/30/2000: Bob H.
	Mike, I'm not sure I understand what is separating. If the tines of the nib move apart when pressure is applied and snap back together under no pressure, then you have a flexible pen nib. Its not only not broken, but very desirable to some collectors. If the nib is separating from the section, or the tines are moving in some other way, I've got no idea. While everyone seems to have a fascination with flex and super-flex nibs, my feeling is that most people,especially folks without some background with flexible nibs are much better off with rigid but smooth nibs. Flexible nibs are difficult to control. Getting them to flex is no trick; keeping them from flexing when you don't want extra line width is the trick. Its not a hard thing to do, but it seems to require sufficient practice. If a downstroke with light pressure ( think ink on the paper, not ink in the paper) isn't noticabhly thinner than a downstroke with firm pressure (say the amount of pressure needed to get anything out of a BiC) then you may have sprung the nib with too much pressure. Still, it sounds like a flex nib. take Care, Bob H.

NJ Pen Show
	10/30/2000: allen gross
	The NJ pen show was held in Somerset NJ this past weekend. Although Saturday was alittle slow, it gave all the dealers a good chance to buy , sell and trade with each other. Sunday drew the usual good attendance with an even flow of sales throughout the entire day. Bernie & Geoff proved as always to be excellent hosts for this event. The auction featured some great pens including a waterman 20 and prices seemed to be average to high. All in all, a great show and alot of fun !!

Columbus Show - Esterbrooks
	10/30/2000: Lynn Brant
	Speaking of Esterbrooks, I will have a number of very rare Esterbrooks available at the Columbus Show. These will include rare colors from the early '30s, a '30s demonstrator of which only three are known, and two mint English "Relief" models, one with sticker. Also have more typical Esterbrooks, desk sets and nibs. Any unsold at the show will be available online later.

Couple of items
	10/30/2000: Mike
	First, Mr. Gnoza has again backedup my positive attitude about Esterbrook products. I wish I had one of the inkwells of which you speak, sir. I do have one Esterbrook desk set, kind of a rare one,round flat teal ceramic base with teal pen. Another thing...I am gaining more and more of these named no name pens. Like the Eastman I mentioned before. I have a Viceroy with a perfect clip and very detailed filler lever. I never hear about these in the pen books, which seem to only care about the fancy ones. Anyone know of a good book out there that would tell me aobut these odd but seemingly quality pens?

Nib Separation!
	10/29/2000: Mike
	I think I may have broken the nib of my fountain pen.It seems to separate a little on the downstroke.It sometimes fails to make a line on the down stroke. Is there something I can try before I get factory help or send it for service?

Re: First Practical Self-Filler
	10/29/2000: George.
	Dave wrote about the Conklin as the first practical self-filling fountain pen with a rubber sac or bladder, but there is an earlier self-filler that predates it. I'm not claiming that it is the first commercially successful self-filler, since most collectors would have heard of it if it were. But the first patent for a pen that specifies that it has a rubber sac is a patent from Sept 19, 1848, which states, in part, that it has "a bag or chamber . . . made of gum elastic", the current word then for "rubber".

PFM repair
	10/29/2000: ben munsell
	Need help with PFM bladder replacement: What size and where to get one or more. Thanks.

Parker Slimfold, with 45-style cap.
	10/29/2000: Bruce Robinson
	I bought a dark-blue English Parker Slimfold yesterday, but it is not like the normal style pictured on the WWW. It is labelled "Slimfold" in faint white paint on the barrel, but has nothing stamped into the barrel. The cap lip has Parker, Made in England, and the arrow/ellipse logo. The main difference is the cap. It has a GF-tassie with a conical dish, and a 7-chevron clip. Both appear identical to those on the Parker 45. The screw-on cap has a GF band forming a relatively bulky cap edge with a 45 degree champfer, not the flat band 5mm back from the edge as in the Slimfold's pictured on the web. I have seen one cap-edge like this on a plastic-cap English Parker 45. The pen's dimensions are: length capped 12.3 cm, barrel width max 1.0 cm, barrel to nib-tip 11.2 cm. The small nib is engraved "Parker, 14k, 585, England, 10" Has anyone got any suggestions as to how to identify this "Slimfold". Thanks

Ohio Pen Show, Update
	10/29/2000: Terry Mawhorter
	Hello pen friends. It's been a busy week. We now have 120 tables filled. If you are still interested in displaying, don't despair. We will start a waiting list. Some will cancel at the last minute. Just had one yesterday. Just put up more auction photos at www.ohiopenshow.com under "auction". Brad Knapp of Broadway Pens, will give a seminar on Saturday, "Pen Collecting for the New Collector". As always, we will accept weekend registrations at the show and admission costs always include your significant other. Email with questions or call 740-454-2314.

1928 Parker Duofold planes have ARRIVED
	10/28/2000: Len Provisor
	Finally, the shipment of the first 100 model planes have landed in my backyard airfield. I will be inspecting every single one, re-packing for safe shipment as soon as possible. I'm going to the Ohio Pen Show on Thurs., so I may not get all out until my return the following week. Please note, I am still taking orders for this model ONLY until the end of this year. If you are really interested, don't wait, order one now. VISA MC AX CHECKS All of these great hand-made 18" wingspan models are signed personally by Geoffrey S. Parker, great-grandson of George S. Parker. For close up detailed pictures of this plane, visit my website: www.inkblotters.com

Response
	10/28/2000: Steve Johnson
	To: Ron Zorn I just sent a response to your query and had trouble getting through to the provider. I sent it again and it appears to have gone through. Hope you get it.

Visconti Traveling Inkpot vs. Pelikan Souveran 1000
	10/28/2000: Chuck Kim
	I'm wondering if anyone's had any experience using one of Visconti's Traveling Inkpots with the Pelikan Souveran 1000 series of pens. I love my Traveling Inkpots and find that I use little else when filling... but I'm wondering if the 1000 will fit. I understand that it's got a larger barrel diameter than the 800 series (which I love and which fits quite well into my Traveling Inkpot) but haven't been able to find a shop with a 1000 in stock so that I could take a clean Inkpot to check for fit. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Pencil Leads for Parker 51
	10/28/2000: Raymond Wong
	To Sam McAllister: I think those are just 0.9 mm leads which are still used by modern pencils, e.g Mont Blanc has put out new pencils using that kind of lead. I recently purchased a whole box of such leads made by Pentel and several Staedtler mechanical pencils using those leads. And I am living in a city with no pen shops, a real penlover's desert. So it should not be too difficult to find.

Replacement Lead
	10/28/2000: Michael Pantano
	for Sam McAllister ..... Autopoint still makes the size lead you need. You can probably find it in better stationary or art supply stroes. However, here's the url to their web site where you might find a dealer near you. http://www.jvlnet.com/~autopt/

triangle pen
	10/28/2000: cj
	Does anyone know an online retailer where I can purchase the Rite Maxi-Ad Ballpoint or any large/long triangle, triad pen or any triangle ballpoint similar to it. The only online companies I have been able to find that sell the pen or anything similar to it are commercial advertising companies.

Pencil lead replacement
	10/28/2000: Sam McAllister
	I have a Parker 51 pen and pencil cet that I purchased new in 1950. I find that I've run out of pencil lead and can't find replacements. I'd appreciate any information as to where I might find pencil leads (the old thick kind) to fit my valued and trusly old Parker 51 pencil.

Dip pens and desk sets
	10/28/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	My trusty Esterbrook DB427 twin inkwell deskset is used on a daily basis - loaded to the brim with 2 different inks that I change 3 or 4 times a year. The pens are Esterbrook Dip-less, one with a clear taper and one with a red taper. It's really a great set , as is the single well version the DB407. It's amazing the amount of ink the reservoirs hold and how long you can write with a single dip, as well as how nice they look sitting on a desk or sriting table. I have tried others but these Esterbrooks desksets are tough to beat.

My web site
	10/28/2000: Stephen Lam
	I have just uploaded my vintage pens for sale website. Please vist www.pen-du-lam.com and your comments are welcomed.

Dip pens or Desk pens
	10/27/2000: Harold
	Want to thank everyone who answered me on the choise of ink... Now to a new question. I'm new to BB's on the net, However I see a lot of discussion on Fountain pens. But, nothing on Dip Pens or the more modern Desk pen. I would be interested to hear anything anyone has to say on this subject. I see some of the old dip pens are really beautiful. How do they write? Are modern points (nibs) avilable to go with the old holders? Enough for now.... I'll sit back and enjoy your comments

Grammar
	10/27/2000: Steve Johnson
	Please excuse the grammar on that posting.

Slow pen
	10/27/2000: Steve Johnson
	On the 25th, I posted a question about "slow" pens. I have received one suggestion off channel and two others posted. I appreciate everyone's help. One of you asked if I was referring to new or old pens and I should have had the foresight to mention that it was new pens with which I have experienced this problem. A Krone Vintage Stretch was the most exasperating. Someone on Zoss suggested I place a drop of liquid detergent on a piece of paper and write through it for several minutes and that seemed to take care of them problem. The only thing strange now is that although the pen write immediately, the ink appears darker for the first few words. I suppose I'll have to live with that. Again, thanks all.

Duofold Jasper
	10/27/2000: Esther
	That line (of Duofold Jasper) has been discontinued. We have a few roller ball pens left, at a special closeout price. Thank you.

For Sale at Columbus
	10/27/2000: Lee Chait
	Two 34X22X3 aluminum display cases with 6 custom made 16X7X1 solid oak trays with rounded pen slots; triple bevelled front and back. Trays are $50 each or $375 for the case and 6 trays. Parker 75's- Presidents; Bicent; Spanish Treasure Fleet FP/BP; QE; Keepsake; Vermeils: Premiers; and 1987-88 Duofolds available as are other Parker goods including advertising displays; and advertising pens. Parker 51 case and 318 Countertop available. Email me with questions before 10/31.

Eastman Pen
	10/27/2000: Mike
	On Ebay about a year ago, I bought this simply hugiferous marbled green pen that is called an Eastman. It is the largest pen in my collection, bigger than the big Shaffer Balance I bought recently. It is a flat top. It easily took a big 20 bladder. The filler lever is actually marked "filler." I cannot write with it, though, as the nib is simply worn to death. Either that or it is the most flexible nib I have ever seen. Has anyone around here heard of the breand or even own one of these monsters? I would really like to know more about it.

pen purchase
	10/27/2000: Frank Savely
	Would like to purchase a "diamondpoint" desk pen cobalt blue in color.

First Practical Self Filler
	10/27/2000: Dave Glass
	Dave R. See p. 227 of the same Fishler & Schneider blue book for confirmation that Conklin's crescent-filler indeed predates the Waterman sleeve filler by at least a decade. I think you are correct to infer that F&S was referring to the sleeve filler as just Waterman's first sac pen and practical non-eyedropper. Incidentally the Mch 17, 1891 patent date shown on early Conklin pens refers to a sac filler, but one actually activated by a lever. The 1901 Conklin patent describes the crescent-filler, which is widely recognized as the first practical and commercially successful self filler, as you note. Regards, Dave Glass (Crescentpens)

Comments
	10/26/2000: Dave Rossow
	In the "Blue Book", first edition, F&S state on page 18 that the Waterman sleeve filler was the "first practical non-eyedropper filled pen" and that production began in 1910. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but wasn't Conklin, and maybe others as well, making practical self-filling pens for at least a decade before this? Fischler and Schneider also mention that this marked the introduction of two items that were to become fountain pen standards: the ink sac and the pressure bar. Conklin was using ink sacs and had a pressure bar, though not a J-type (sprung bar) for years. Could it be that this marked Waterman's first use of these items rather than an absolute first, or could the dates listed be incorrect? While I'm at it, I recently acquired a black standard Parker 51 pen and pencil set, but need a hood for the pen. If anyone has one available please let me know. Thanks, Dave

Slow Pen
	10/26/2000: Bill Stevens
	Michael is right that your slow pen is probably caused by something that is inhibiting the capillary action. He suggests that it might be due to slits cut improperly. Another possibility could be with the feed, ranging from dirt or dried ink causing a problem, to a feed that needs to be replaced or reworked. You didn't say if your pen is new or old, but in either case I would start by soaking the nib for a while in some water with a smidge of 409 in it to see if that does anything. Also try changing ink and see if that helps. Those are the two simplest first aid procedures. If they don't work, send it back to the manufacturer, or take it to a good repairman. I have been very happy with Jerry Trafford's work on getting feeds to flow just how I want. I hope that helps. -- Bill

Slow Pen
	10/25/2000: Michael
	The answer to you problem could one of sveral possible ones. However, most likely it is an improperly ground nib. The nib's slit must be parallel all the way to the very tip of the irridium. It seems that quite a few modern nibs' slits are not perfectly parallel right to the tip, causing the capillary action that causes ink to flow down the slit and onto the peper to stop. If your pen starts again with a mild shake or some additional pressure on the paper, that's the likely cause. The fix? Send it back to the manufacturer for a new nib. It is ever so likely that all the nib adjusting in the world won't cure that particular problem. ~Michael~

Old Ink
	10/25/2000: raymond wong
	Thanks Stephen: I did shake it and it didn't work. However, if I leave them standing for a period of time, it seems to get better.

decision
	10/25/2000: Marlin523
	Can't decide between the Montegrappa Symphony and the Pelikan 800. Which is the better pen?

Slow pen
	10/25/2000: Steve Johnson
	What causes a pen to be "slow" to start. I have experienced this problem with several pens, mostly with medium nibs. It happens on straight lines when I lift the pen from the paper. Once it starts, it will continue to write as long as I don't lift it. Any suggestions?

Parker Duofold Rollerball Pen
	10/25/2000: Jim Richards
	Does anyone out there have a Parker Duofold Rollerball pen for sale or trade? I'm flexible on color and size, but would prefer a Centennial size if possible. Box/papers not important. Prefer a used one. Minor surface marks are acceptable as long as no structural damage. Please Email your offers. Thanks.

Kaweco Sport for Sell
	10/25/2000: Rene
	Kaweco Sport V16N,Ball pen and Fountainpen Set, Piston filler, Germany ,New Old Stock,Never Inked,- Havana Brown with gold-filled trim - 1970 - Medium Nib size,Ink window,Leather Pocket Bag,U$120 included shipping-Credit cards Acepted. Thanks in advice. Rene.

OLD WATERMAN FOR SELL
	10/24/2000: Rav
	I would like to sell,best offer,this fountain pen... Watermans 12 1/2, Safety, USA - Black chased hard rubber 12 1/2 safety - crisp imprints on cap and barrel - 1915 - Retractable BROAD nib size,near mint condition,inked once.Best offer wins. Thanks. p.s.the last bid amount U$70 plus shipping.Thanks in advice.

Ohio show
	10/24/2000: David Isaacson
	Hello. Don't post here often, but see many familiar names :-) I had not expected to attend, but now it seems I mite be at the Ohio show. I seek a "late" parker vac catalog to borrown/photocopy etc. The one I need (or several) should be from the 1942-1947 "single jewel vac" era. The material is for a pamphlet I'm putting together on this series of pen. Any help appreciated. "thank you" happily placed in the book and expenses paid. So far have over 100 pens nicely photographed fro the book. Slow progress, but fun project. And, of course, if folks have "interesting and scarce" vacumatics available at somewhat reasonable prices- I'd be interested. Thanks much. David

Ohio Pen Show in Columbus, Update
	10/24/2000: Terry Mawhorter
	Thanks to Lynn Brant for his continued support of the show. As of yesterday, you could still get a room at the hotel, The Marriott North, 1-800-228-3429, on Friday and Saturday, pen show rate of $87. single or double. Looks like we have about 3-5 tables left to hit the 120 mark. We will be adding more items to the auction listing this weekend under our website www.ohiopenshow.com If you are within driving distance, try to make the show even if only on Sunday. As always, we accept weekend registrations at the door on Friday/Saturday. Some show TIPPS: looking to replate pens?-see Jake Leventhal or Rick Horne at the show; need repair or repair tools/videos?-see Phill Bee at the show(bring parts if you have them); Need parts?-see Dick Johnson, parts GURU at the show; looking for repro catalogs?-see Jon Rosenbaum at the show. Email with questions or visit the website.

Ohio Show
	10/24/2000: Lynn Brant
	About a month ago I posted a message saying that I would be offering a number of high quality pens (mainly Wahl and Carter duplicates from my collection) and that these would soon be pictured on a web page. I also said that I would have those that remained unsold available at the Columbus show. The response to that was tremendous (many emails). However, In my effort to support the Columbus show, I have decided to reverse that plan and offer everything at the show first, and the remnants online later. Also a note to cookie monsters... for the last three years, as PenLovers, I have had superb homemade (not by me) cookies at the show Sat. am. Penlovers is doing the pizza party this year but I will, as an individual, do the cookie thing again. See you all there!

Old Ink
	10/24/2000: Stephen Lam
	Raymond, as the condensation is inside the ink bottle, why don't you shake the bottle to mix it with the rest of the ink. That should make sure the consistency will be, eh "consistent". If you put your ink bottle indoors and away from the sun, I don't think you need to worry about evaporation and thickening.

Swan Self Filler SM 205/59
	10/23/2000: Vince
	Greetings, I'm looking to purchase the Swan Self Filler SM 205/59 Italian Marble, c1937. Hopefully in excellent condition. As a reference, this pen can be seen on page 172/173 of Andreas Lambrou's book, Fountain Pens of the World. TIA � Vince

Triangle (NC) Pen Club - Nov 12, 3 PM
	10/23/2000: Ross
	The next meeting of the Triangle Pen Club will be Sunday, November 12 at the Java Cafe in the basement of the Regulator Bookstore in Durham [http://www.regbook.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp ]. I've checked the schedule this time: no readings or cooking demonstrations are planned! Time will be 3:00 - like usual - and let's try bringing the prettiest plastic pens you own. Who cares if they write like un-polished nails? For this event, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, as opposed to the writer. And if you have something new you want to brag about, bring it along, too. Feel free to contact Deb Kinney or I for questions Ross McKinney

F/S Parker 51s
	10/23/2000: Bruce Marshall
	Pens with special nibs: ~~~~~ #51-20 ~ Parker 51 aero filler, black barrel with chrome cap. No dings or dents. Medium OBLIQUE nib. $115.---- #51-21 ~ Parker 51 vac filler, black barrel with Lustraloy cap. No dings or dents. Medium OBLIQUE nib. $115.---- Regular nibs:---- #51-22 ~ Parker 51 aero filler, maroon barrel with converging line gold filled cap. No dings or dents. medium nib. $90.---- #51-23 ~ Parker 51 aero filler, maroon barrel with Lustraloy cap. No dings or dents. Medium nib. $65.---- #51-18 ~ Parker 51 aero filler, black barrel with converging line gold filled cap. No dings or dents. medium nib. $90.---- #51-19 ~ Medium blue 51 aerometric filler. Clean Lustraloy cap, MEDIUM nib. $65.---- Postage extra.---- Satisfaction guaranteed.

OLD WATERMAN FOR SELL
	10/23/2000: Rav
	I would like to sell,best offer,this fountain pen... Watermans 12 1/2, Safety, USA - Black chased hard rubber 12 1/2 safety - crisp imprints on cap and barrel - 1915 - Retractable BROAD nib size,near mint condition,inked once.Best offer wins. Thanks.

Old Ink
	10/23/2000: Raymond Wong
	While we are talking about old ink. I noticed that there is water condensed on the cap of ink bottles after sitting for a while. This I supposed would make the ink thick. I sometimes put distilled water to dilute it again but the result is not good. The ink got watery and has to sit for a long time before getting back to normal. Should I just forget about diluting it? Any thoughts?

Old Ink - Parker
	10/23/2000: Stephen Lam
	I have a number of large bottles of Parker ink in the rather sexy tall bottles. I bought them about 15 years ago after they languish in the bottle drawer of a stationery store. I have been using them since. The turquoise colour is exquisite.

Old Black Skrip
	10/23/2000: Sam - Pendemonium
	Allan - Many old inks are very safe to use. Skrip seems to have survived the years well. Check it for odd odors, make sure there isn't sediment in the bottom of the bottle or anything else floating around in there that shouldn't be! Sometimes the color of old inks will "turn", so if your black ink is sort of grey-ish or not as black as it should be, keep it in the bottle. I use old inks all the time, some 75 years old and have never had a problem, but I'm sure to check them first. == Sam

Old Sheaffer inks
	10/22/2000: Len Provisor
	Allan, I hear that vintage Sheaffer inks are fine to use, I have a 32oz next to me, tip over to look at the bottom of the bottle, no sentiments, I mean sediments, :) use it in any pens. Frank Dubiel swears by Sheaffer inks, never had a problem. If you ever see muck, sludge or thick coatings on the bottom of sides of bottle, dump it.

Ink Fade Test
	10/22/2000: Raymond Wong
	Thanks John King for the info on sun fade test of inks. I just noticed that my post on this thread has disappeared. It was posted only a couple of hours ago. Did I do something wrong? Anyway, thanks for the response.

Sheaffer Scrip
	10/22/2000: Allan Fuld
	I have a full 32 ounce bottle of Sheaffer Scrip in #332 Permanent Jet Black. I have no idea how old it is. "To Use It, Or Not To Use It? That is the question.

Ink Story
	10/22/2000: Will Thorpe
	Hong Kong, 25 years ago, after dark, I bought a Pelikan from a dealer. Not want the box and not wanting to carry a bag I stuck the pen in my pocket. On seeing that the dealer wanted to know if I'd like to fill the pen. Sure I said. He pulls out this cadboard box that must have had two dozen bottles of different color of Carter's ink, all in the art deco boxes, from the 1920's or 30's I guess. Yes, I filled the pen, no I never thought for a second about buying the ink. I'm a lot smarter now though!

INK and More Ink!
	10/22/2000: Will Thorpe
	I've kind of hesitated to jump in here, ink is the kind of personal thing that starts arguements. First I agree with Sam. Experiment. I have no expertise in ink but I have been using ink for over 47 years. I wrote for a living, daily, for over 20 years, and I used a lot of ink. I still write daily and I still use ink. The ink, the pen, the nib, the paper, ink consistency, and the pressure you apply all have a bearing on your like and dislike for ink. I just bought some Bexley Lapis Blue from Sam at the last show. In an Omas medium nib wet writer it flowed like a fire hose. However in my 1932 Sheaffer fine point it flows a lot less, and it comes in a nice art deco bottle. Absolutely great color, has a touch of purple to it. Some inks, especially black, feel rough to me. I hardly touch the paper with a pen so the lighter colors don't always suit me. I'm partial to brown such as Waterman's Havana and especially like Pelikan brown. Pelken ink feels very slick to me. I like the way Pelikan flows. I also like OMAS Blue but can't stand the bottle design. I bought some purple from Colorado Pen Company (store label) that is pretty vivid and doesn't lay down a weak line. OK, so what I've said, for what it's worth, is experiment, try several colors, be bold. I've never had a pen damaged from ink but for vintage pens be careful. Red hard rubber can stain with ease.

Ink Experiment
	10/22/2000: Raymond Wong
	Thanks to all the comments about ink. I once did an experiment with ball point inks. I wrote them on a sheet of paper and taped it on my office window for maximum exposure to sunlight. After weeks some of the writing totally disappeared due to exposure. I have not tried with fountain pen ink because I cannot get too many different brands. Perhaps someone can try and let us know.

Ink
	10/22/2000: Bill Stevens
	I agree with Waco Johnny D that most modern pen parts will stand up to any ink. The only hesitations I would have are using extremely intense ink, like purple, in a light colored pen, like an OMAS Biblioteque; and also some people say that you should use only OMAS ink in their "vegetal resin" pens because other inks will cause it to break down over time. I don't know if I buy that or not, but I do use OMAS ink in OMAS pens.

re: Ink
	10/22/2000: Waco Johnny D
	Raymond, Don't sweat it. Today's FP components, including the sacs, which are now made of latex (i.e. man-made) rubber, will stand up to just about anything. The only situation that would warrant concern, IMHO, would be the use of old valuable dip-pen nibs made of NON-stainless steel.

Harold & Inks
	10/22/2000: Sam - Pendemonium
	With all the choices of ink brands and ink colors now available, choosing a favorite ink (if you're so inclined to choose only one!) has become a very personal thing. My favorite blue may not be be appealing to you . Further, not all inks perform the same way in all pens. Even narrowing it down more, different colors of inks made by the same manufacturer can flow totally different. It takes a bit of experimenting to find out which of your pens writes best with which ink. Pen collectors who are on the internet and frequent the pen discussion boards seem to have a big influence on what your favorite ink might be! If you polled this group today on their favorite blue ink, I'd wager that the overwhelmeing answers would be OMAS Roma 2000 or Bexley Ocean Blue. But if you had polled them a year ago, the overwhelming choice would have been Aurora blue! And to further complicate and influence this is the demise of Penman Sapphire which has sent blue users scurrying for a comparable blue! Just remember that not all inks are created equally and you'll have to find the "perfect" colors for you! ===Sam

Ink
	10/22/2000: Raymond Wong
	Harold: I also remember there was a list published in Pen World International about the acidity of ink. It was quite interesting to see the range of pH values. I wonder we should try to use ink with less acidity.

Parker 51 for sale
	10/22/2000: Steve
	Reduced prices, Pens for sale: Still culling collection, A)2 Parker 51 pens.....2 pens, both sterling silver caps, slight dings, both fine nibs, one blue barrel, the other gray barrel, $75.00 each............$140.00 for the pair B) Tiffany Ballpoint pens, 2, both sterling silver, first has stars and stripes on clip, slight gap between clip and bbl, (could send to Tiffany for adjustment) $35.00, and other pen with Caduceus on clip $40.00..........$60.00 for the pair C) 2 Cross ballpoint pens, both sterling silver, the first a Cross Century, has slight ding, $35.00, the other needs polishing and a refill, $30.00 for that one..........$50.00 for the pair D) Waterman Kultur Shock fountain pens, 2 pens clear transparent colors, green with a fine nib $30.00 NIB , and a blue pen with a fine nib, very brief light use, $25.00, ....$50.00 for the pair Please add $5.00 on for insured priority mail. email, oyster55@earthlink.net for further questions, or to reserve pen. thanks

Harold and Inks
	10/22/2000: Kristi
	The best suggestion I have for anyone who wants to learn about or experiment with inks would be to contact Pendemonium and order Greg Clark's ink book. It samples colors and has lots of information given in a no-nonsense simple format.

Inks - More to it than just Blue-Black
	10/22/2000: Len Provisor
	Harold.....inks are now half the fun of using fountain pens these days. A few years ago your choices were very limited. Suddenly there is an explosion of colors available, and certainly some precautions with a few intense colors and reactions to WHITE pens, CLEAR ink vue sections or demonstartors. You can find perhaps a dozen shades of blue from brilliant to subtle, and many inks can even be altered to your own custom colors by adding a drop or two (always write down your lab procedures). Be sure to visit Avalon (see ad banners here)and Pendemonium for some of the most elaborate ink choices you've ever seen.

Omas obliques
	10/22/2000: Kiats
	I was wondering if anyone here could help me - how does the Omas oblique nibs compare to the Pelikan OBs? Thanks!

Fountain Pen Inks
	10/21/2000: Stephen Lam
	Harold, I have used Parker, Sheaffers, Pelikan, Montlanc, Cross, Hero and a few other brands over the last 20 years. I think there is not much difference unless you prefer certain colours offered only by certain manufacturers. I now go for the most easily available ink in my neighbourhood. My experience tells me that ink is colour water. Some may have proprietory additives (which most of us don't understand anyway) but at the end of the day, the most important factors are colours and availability.

Fountain Pen inks
	10/21/2000: Harold
	I am interested in what inks you use or recommend for fountain pens. I'm mainly interested in the Black, Black/Blue, Blue. What you use and why. This information should save me money and time experimenting myself. Why not take advantage of your experience. Thanks Harold

1928 Parker Duofold Monoplane
	10/21/2000: Len Provisor
	The Ohio Pen Show is the last show of the year for me to display this great replica model. Next and final delivery of these models won't be until approx. Feb. after 12/31/00 deadline for final orders. First shipment is due in a few more days, and deliveries will be starting shortly. To give you an idea of how big and powerful this Monoplane was back in 1928, here's a comparison to another Parker aircraft in 1946. The 410 hp Duofold airspeed was 140 mph, the '46 aircraft with twin 450 hp engines cruised at 150 mph, max speed of 219 mph. Duofold range was 900 miles, the '46 model 1,140. Duofold maximum altitude was 19,500', the '46 model was 18,200. Main reason: the Duofold was metal tubing, wood and canvas, weighing in at only several hundred pounds. The '46 model with same wingspan of about 50' was 9,300 pounds. The 1946 model is likely to be my next aircraft in the Series of Vintage Parker Aircraft. Very few people have seen this plane since the 1950's, and I can tell you it had an incredible Deco Parker decoration. Sorry, don't ask.....introduction pictures not until January. Come see the Duofold Fairchild FC2W2 Monoplane at the Ohio Pen Show.

Pens available
	10/21/2000: Marv'
	I have duplicate pens in my collection in mint or near mint condition. Parker, Sheaffer, Eversharp. Tell me what you need and I will respond within 24 hours if I have it and I will quote price.

100 Yr Ends
	10/21/2000: Michael Pantano
	For repair to 100 Yr ends, contact Bill Enderlin, The Pen Mechanic. His e-mail is THEPENMECH@aol.com

Pens FS
	10/21/2000: steve smith
	Lot of 30, mostly complete pens, mostly nonames, 20 fp's, 10 vintage bp's & mech pencils, No real prizes here but a group of common pens to play with or use to sharpen your repair skills. As is, no returns. $45 plus $3.20 Priority Mail. US buyers only. First email wins. Thanks, Steve

PENKALA PENS
	10/21/2000: Duncan
	WANTED, pens, pencils and infomation, etc on Penkala.

Pens FS
	10/21/2000: Mike
	Parker Norman Rockwell LE in original factory packaging,NOS,$875 plus shipping. NOS MB 149 in box with "149" ink, brass filling mechanism, broad 18k nib. $275 plus shipping. Aurora Dante Alighieri LE, NOS in factory packaging. $1150 plus shipping.

Ohio Show: Auction Photos; Seminars
	10/21/2000: Terry Mawhorter
	Ohio Pen Show Auction, Saturday, November 4, 4-6pm, auction photos are in color when you click to see a larger photo of of each grouping under "auction" at www.ohiopenshow.com Sorry about the confusion. In addition to a Saturday seminar by John Mottishaw on nibs, Larry Gilbert has agreed to give a seminar on "Buying pens on the internet" on Saturday afternoon. Feel free to email with questions about the show.

Levenger dual ended cartridges
	10/21/2000: A. Hermann
	Levevgers is offering long cartridges w/dual ends; one for international size the other for Parker. In the past I've been able to use Lamy cartridges in Parker but not vice versa as the Parker is too long. Q. Does anyone know if the new Levenger's cart. will work in Lamy? TIA.

Upcoming Pen Shows
	10/21/2000: Dean Tweeddale
	Hi fellow Penlovers some great pen shows coming up soon in rapid succession. First up is the National Pen show in Somerset, N.J. October 27-29, 2000 this promises to be a great show with lots of tables of pens and a great auction. Some of the auction items are posted on the National Pen show site for preview. I will unfortunately not be able to attend this show as I will be in the middle of a cross country move from Cleveland, OH to the Seattle area of Washington. All of my email and contact information will be changing soon but I will be sure to post it here when it happens. The next show next show up is the 6th Annual Ohio Pen Show, November 2-5, 2000 in Columbus, Ohio. The Ohio show will be another show that you won�t want to miss, tons of dealers both vintage and modern, a great pizza party on Friday night sponsored by Penlovers, the desert party on Saturday night that show organizers Terry and Sonya put on, plus an auction and various seminars throughout the weekend make this show a great event. Penlovers will have a table at the Ohio show so come on by, say Hi, and grab one of the new Penlovers blotters. You can find more information on these and other shows by clicking the Pen shows button to the left and following the links to their sites.

Sheaffer & Parker
	10/20/2000: Sam - Pendemonium
	Inky Greetings --- Just finished updating the Parker and Sheaffer pen pages on the website. Quite a few new additions of vintage pens and pencils. Hope you'll surf on by - http://www.pendemonium.com --- Mention you saw this post on PenLovers and we'll ship any Parker or Sheaffer writing instrument free of charge in the US. If you're outside the US, we'll deduct the amount of US shipping from shipping fees. Free shipping offer ends Monday Oct 23rd! --- Good Collecting! Sam

PFM part & Waterman 100 Yr. end
	10/20/2000: Howard Simms
	I'm looking for a silver cap ring for a Sheaffer PFM I. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I'm trying to find someone who does repairs to Waterman 100 Year pen ends. Thanks.

VISCONTI FOR SELL
	10/20/2000: RENE
	I would like to sell,best offer,this fountain pen... VISCONTI MANHATTAN,TRANSLUCENT RUBY BURGUNDY, MINT CONDITION,NEW NEVER USED,IN LUXURY BOX AND PAPERS,BROAD NIB SIZE, MADE IN FLORENCE,ITALY,LOOKS LIKE THE STYLE OF OLD PARKER VACUMATIC INK VIEW Thanks for interest.

Auction: Ohio Pen Show
	10/19/2000: Terry Mawhorter
	The first 43 lots are now posted on our website www.ohiopenshow.com for the auction being held Saturday, November 4, 4-6pm, during the Ohio Show. We will have about 100 lots total so watch for another post soon. Once on the site, look under the heading "auction" on the left side of the home page. Hopefully the photos will be in color shortly!

Pen Club Meeting
	10/19/2000: Steve
	The Pan Pacific Pen Club will be meeting on November 11 at 11am in Fairfield, CA. The site is the famous Jelly Belly factory. We have a large meeting room and all the candy you can eat! The program will be on handwriting analysis, as presented by an employee of the Department of Justice. This meeting is open to members and non members alike. Come and attend the meeting then take a tour of the factory. See you there!

Ohio Pen Show Nov. 2-5
	10/19/2000: Len Provisor
	The Ohio Pen Show is fast becoming a major magnet for pen collectors not only in the Midwest, but international also. I hear 120-some tables, a great auction of some incredible pens, lots of pen parts will be on hand, and an easy drive from almost anywhere in Mid-America. This is the last show to display the 1928 Parker Duofold airplane model, orders taken only to end of this year. Try and make this show, you will not be disappointed.

New Jjersey National Pen Show 10/27-29
	10/19/2000: Len Provisor
	One of the oldest pen shows in the country is set to begin in just over one week. Geoffrey Berliner and Bernie put on a great show and especially draw some great pens for their auction. To be held at the Double Tree Hotel in Somerset, NJ. Plenty of early arrivals on Thurs for afteroon and eve trading and selling. Check out the show website, click on the PEN SHOWS to the left on your screen, for all the details including directions. Website is www.natlpenshow.com

Jotter picture
	10/19/2000: John
	Stephani -- You might try www.penhome.co.uk. They have pictures of the vintage pens they are selling. I cannot remember if a Jotter is among them, but one might be.

Eversharp Coronet
	10/19/2000: Todd
	Hi, Looking to buy one of these pens too please. As blow, please quote price and condition.

P. 51 Empire Set
	10/19/2000: Todd
	Hello, I'm looking to purchase a Parker 51 "Empire" set. Please email conditions and price ASAP. Thanks!

jotter ball-point pen by Parker
	10/19/2000: Stephani Havard
	Does anyone know where I might find a high resolution image of a Parker ball-point pen circa 1954? I believe it was called the Jotter.

Pelikan M 800 NMIB For Sale
	10/19/2000: Michael McNeil
	I have a Pelikan M 800 with a 2 tone 18K Medium nib for sale. It is Near Mint In Box, it was only inked once. If you are interesed in it please e-mail me, an mention you saw this post on Penlovers. Thanks! Michael

pen gift boxes
	10/18/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	http://martyswoodshop.com/penboxes.htm

Make your own "J" bars
	10/18/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	Take a J- bar with you and go to a beauty supply store and look at the ladies hair barrettes. The metal back clips can be removed and cut and made into 2 pressure bars! They even have a groove in them for the lever to ride in ! I get 8 bars from a 4 pack for a $1.59. GOODY Barrettes made by Goody Products, Kearny NJ 07032..Product # 6665 with a UPC #41457-10651

Gift boxes needed
	10/18/2000: Chas
	Sorry, me again, could also use several "gift" boxes (or info on where to get them). Thanks again, Chas.

J-bar help needed! :)
	10/18/2000: Chas
	Help? I have been asked by a friend to get some pens ready for gifts....he's getting married in two weeks, and I have about 15 pens to get ready for grooms-man's gifts and such (he ran-sacked my "to-be-done" case) and I need to buy some supplies in VERY short order. I need several J-bars, firstoff, a black jem for an Esterbrook, and possibly a few other tid bits if I can't fabricate them. If anyone has a few to sell, PLEASE let me know ASAP. Also, I used to be part of a e-mail based pen list but lost it after an e-mail change (kind fell away from the hobby until yesterday, now my fire is back!). Any one know what the list is? I think I remember Andrew's name for the list, if any one could fill me in on re-joining the list I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Chas. :o)

Visconti "Giacomo Leopardi" For Sale
	10/18/2000: Michael McNeil
	I have a Visconti "Giacomo Leopardi" for sale. It is in Gold Vermeil, inked once. It comes with its own chest made, which is made from ash. If you are interested please contact me for further information. Michael

VISCONTI FOR SELL
	10/18/2000: Rene
	I would like to sell,best offer,this fountain pen... VISCONTI MANHATTAN,TRANSLUCENT RUBY BURGUNDY, MINT CONDITION,NEW NEVER USED,IN LUXURY BOX AND PAPERS,BROAD NIB SIZE, MADE IN FLORENCE,ITALY,LOOKS LIKE THE STYLE OF OLD PARKER VACUMATIC INK VIEW Thanks for interest.

Early Visconti Pens
	10/18/2000: Howard Levy
	I am looking for early Visconti Caravelles and Four seasons Collections. If anyone has any available, please contact me. Thank you, Howard Levy

Dupont & Caran D'ache pens for sale
	10/18/2000: Marv
	ST Dupont Olympio (Orpheo) medium FP with fine nib and matching ballpoint. Both are black lacquer with gold trim. Like new condition in original boxes with papers. $225 for FP, $150 for BP. Also selling a Caran D'Ache hexagonal series gold with stainless ballpoint $150 in like new condition, in original box. Will sell each item separately and price does not include shipping.

Heating fountain pens
	10/18/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	Some fountain pen repairs require you heat the instrument - mainly to get glued, shellaced or stubborn sections out of a barrel. The old timers prefer an open flame - what a pretty flame is give off by a celluloid pen when it catches fire !!! I use a Wagner Power Stripper Plus Hot Air Paint Removal Tool that I bought refurbished for $20 from http://www.heartlandamerica.com/site.asp It has a heat control knob that lets you adjust the heat from 350F to 1000F degrees and it has a wire stand that lets you rest it upright so you can hold the pen over it with both hands. http://www.wagnerspraytech.com/cust.htm

Help! from Elizabeth
	10/18/2000: Kiats
	Elizabeth, you might want to try this penstore in Bras Brasah Complex. The store's name is Fook Hing. The chap you should look for is Jimmy. Unbeatable for prices and service. More than makes up for the unfashionable locale. ;) If you need more info, write.

Waterman Edson
	10/18/2000: Ron
	I've seen questions and answers flying around about whether or not Waterman is discontinuing the Edson. FWIW- fuel for the discussion - a recent Levenger catalog has the red and green Edsons listed - says that THESE TWO COLORS are being discontinued. I guess that even our most sacred inside information sources can get beans in their ears!

Help!
	10/18/2000: Elizabeth
	Erm, I have recently come across several nice pens and am interested to know more about them. Firstly, I would like to know how to pick out a good pen. Or rather, a pen that would suite me. And if there is anyone from Singapore, I would be glad to get any recommendations as to where I may get pens such as Parker and Sheaffer, at resonable prices and with engraving services too. Or if you'ld like to just share your knowledge on pens with me, feel free to drop me an email. Thanks.

Help!
	10/18/2000: Elizabeth
	Erm, I have recently come across several nice pens and am interested to know more about them. Firstly, I would like to know how to pick out a good pen. Or rather, a pen that would suite me. And if there is anyone from Singapore, I would be glad to get any recommendations as to where I may get pens such as Parker and Sheaffer, at resonable prices and with engraving services too. Or if you'ld like to just share your knowledge on pens with me, feel free to drop me an email. Thanks.

Merlin Pen Information
	10/18/2000: Penstop
	Hi Bob: I hope this information helps you. After the end of World War II most of Europe having been ravaged by the war, most countries could not produce their own fountain pens. This small company, Merlin, was a prime example of this plight. The pen was marketed to the Benelux community. It was produced in Germany, as were 20 other bands marketed in that part of the world following the end of the war. As to which company produced this pen, no one can really put a handle on that. The characteristics of these pens included their great colors, blends of color, reliablity and most importantly pricing. As for the flexibility of the nib, I generally need to put some pressure to achieve a varied line thickness using a flex nib. Great little pen.

Re: Unwarping a barrel - addendum
	10/18/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	Marcus, Sometimes it helps if you can find a wood dowel the exact same size as the barrel and insert it further into the barrel as it starts to straighten - the dowel has to be a tight fit so the barrel does not warp.

Re: Unwarping a barrel
	10/18/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	To quote Cranky Frankie " what a dumb question - it's all in "da Book"....LOL. Markus what I do is heat the barrel with a paint stripping gun ( same one I use to loosen sections when they are glued or shellaced into the barrel ). While it's warm roll it on a flat surface - a workbench with a smooth mat on it to prevent it from getting "dented" from being rolled on a textured surface ( the bare wood of the work bench). I have probably done 5 pens using this method over the past year and it's worked everytime without fail. The secret is not to get the barrel hot - warm will do - it does not take much heat at all. Good luck

Merlin pen
	10/18/2000: Bob Bullard
	Hello, I just purchased a NOS Merlin pen that has a flex nib. Can anyone tell me about the Merlin (not familar with the brand)? Also any advice on using a flex nib? Does one have to really bear down to vary the line width. Seems to write only a fine line for me. Thanks, Bob Bullard

Parker
	10/17/2000: John
	What is going on with Parker? I have noticed what seems to me to be some steep discounting in the prices of the Duofold line and even some rebates offered. And it seems that the Sonnet line has been severely curtailed. Parker has reworked their logo an their recent product editions are the low cost Reflex and the mid range Inflection. Contrast this with Parker's Gillette/Newell Rubbermaid stablemate Waterman, which has recently introduced the high end Liason and Serenite. Is Parker going to stay in the high-end pen business?

Markus' Duofold "bananna"
	10/17/2000: Len Provisor
	Marcus.....you have a Duofold, Jr. Banana, even if it is not Mandarin. Not much you can do except find a replacement barrel. With much thinner barrel pens that mnay be warped, there is a process.

Silverolex Pens
	10/17/2000: Byron Hinton
	I bought one of these pens on Ebay last year because I thought they were interesting. They are very common. They are not connected with Rolex and they are not sterling silver. They do look like silver and do tarnish. I understand they are manufactured in Israel. You should not pay more than $15 for one. GOOD LUCK.

Unwarping a barrel
	10/17/2000: Markus
	Hi, I believe someone out here has mentioned doing this before? I bought a perfectly good flattop Duo Jr in black, but it looks like it got hot once and has a little 'banana action' going on. If someone would like to share their technique... Thanks Markus

Edson - Discontinued
	10/17/2000: Esther
	I guess that everyone has their own "intelligence resources". Anyhow, I just spoke with my Waterman representative, who re-confirmed, for the third time, that all Waterman Edson models have been discontinued. For those who want a special nib (stub, etc.) Waterman does offer an exchange within 30 days after purchase, if you are unhappy with the nib that came with the pen; as long as, it is not damaged. I have a handful of Edson's left (Blue: 3 FP, Ruby Red: 10 FP, 2 RB, Green: 1 RB, 1BP).

Pelikan nibs
	10/17/2000: JiaXian
	Hi, I just asked a dealer friend, and he said that the 20 ct. nib was due to a demand for "softer" nibs. I don't know how much difference there is between a 18 and 20 ct. nib though. Anyhow, both types are correct and factory original nibs. Regards, JiaXian

Pelikan 20ct nib
	10/17/2000: Stephen Lam
	I have a Toledo M900 and indeed the nib is 20ct two tone. I will let the more experienced and well researched collectors to comment on whether that is what the pen should come with. In the real world of retail business, it is quite possible for some M900 toledos to be sold with 18ct two tone nibs. They are of the same size and outlook and totally interchangeable. If the manufacturer or the dealer, wishing to make use of whatever materials/spare parts available, put together a M900 Toledo with a 18ct two tone nib, I will consider it a sensible move. I doubt if anybody can say, with authority, whether what you have is a marriage or a non-genuine M900 Toledo.

Pelikan 20 ct. nib
	10/16/2000: Jiaxian
	Hi, I believe the 20 ct. nib was made only for certain markets, Asia I think. You might also see 12 ct. nibs for the smaller pens. Production of these seems to have stopped now though. Regards, Jiaxian

Pelikan M900 Toledo 20C 0r 18C Nib ?
	10/16/2000: Bruce P.
	Pen loving people .... I have a mystery to be solved. I recently purchased a Pelikan M900 Gold Toledo from a very respectful dealer. The nib in the pen was an 18K two-tone. Yet when I research this same pen in the book "FOUNTAIN PENS - History & Design" by Giorgio Dragoni & Giuseppe Fichera (Big Sheaffer Nib on Cover) I find on Page 164 they state the nib unique to this pen should be a 20C two-tone nib. They further reference this nib as one of the unique features of the Toledo. Pelikan experts please advise ... is the book right and the dealer wrong; or is the dealer correct and the book wrong??

Jan-Silverolex
	10/16/2000: Lee Chait
	I've seen these pens for $20-75. I have one that has the original refill in it. The refill says Rolex. I never determined with any certainty who made the pens. They are sterling silver.

silverolex
	10/16/2000: jan
	hello i found this page when i was searching for silverolex on a searchengine. Is there anyone here that could give me some information about a silverolexpen named tribes of israel and is partly made of silver maybe you could give me the value of the pen thank you my e-mail is gummus@hotmail.com

Seventh Annual Pen Show and Auction
	10/16/2000: Rron Goelman
	The Seventh Annual CWIC (Canadian Writing Instrument Collectors) Pen Show and Auction will take place this Sunday, October 22, 1PM at the Old Mill Mansion in Toronto. Everyone is welcome to attend. Please feel free to email me if you require any additional Info.

Waterman Edsons
	10/16/2000: Rich
	FYI, I just spoke to a representative from Waterman, who told me that only the green and red Edsons have been discontinued; the blue is still being produced.

Waterman,Visconti, Aurora, Parker FPs for sale:
	10/16/2000: Bruce
	A few great new pens at great prices. Waterman Carene, $125, (2)Aurora Primavera w/italic nibs, $325, Visconti Kaleido, $229, Parker Duofold Centennial, $275, Intl $255. Matching rollerballs & ballpoints may be available (e.g., Aur. Prima RB $240). Add $5 shipping & handling. State preferences for nibs, colors. I'll confirm availability and specify payment arrangement. Ask about other pens you're interested in. Bruce

Montblanc
	10/15/2000: clive Collins
	I would like to sell an excellent 1966 Montblanc Meisterstuck N. 149, black and gold, complete with original literature and receipt (they've gone up!). I have no idea what this might be worth or what might be the best way to sell it. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Duofold line
	10/15/2000: Raymond Wong
	My apologies Ms. Esther for being "inaccurate". But I thought Duofold is a line, Pearl and Grey is a color.

Pens For sale
	10/15/2000: Saul Kitchener
	I have the following vintage pens for sale. 1)Mont Blanc 242G,c.1950,in a faux tortoise shell box. Piston filled with flexible Medium 14K nib. $175. For pictures go to www.vom.com/just4halibut/mb1.jpg, mb2.jpg, mb3.jpg, and mb4.jpg. 2)Parker 1938 2-Jewel Major Vacumatic in original Vacumatic box. Two-tone Fine nib and aluminum speedline filler, striped jewels. $125. Pictures: www.vom.com/just4halibut/brwnvac1.jpg, brwnvac2.jpg,brwnvac3.jpg,brwnvac4.jpg, and brwnvac5.jpg. 3)Mint-in-Box Cocoa Parker 51. In Original plastic sleeve pen is completely clean and unused. Lustraloy cap and dated 1948. Fine nib. $75. Pictures: www.vom.com/just4halibut/51a.jpg and 51b.jpg. All pens are in working order. ??'s please email.

Discontinued Duofold's and Edson's
	10/15/2000: Esther
	First, Mr. Raymond Wong, when you quote me please be accurate. I said that the Pearl Grey is being discontinued; not the entire line! As far as I know, all Edson's are being discontinued. Thank you.

Montegrappa Silver Dragon
	10/15/2000: roni
	I am looking for a Montegrappa Silver dragon pen.pl e-mail me directly.Roni

Ohio Pen Show, November 2-5
	10/15/2000: Terry Mawhorter
	The Ohio Show is now just a few weeks away. As of today we have filled all 102 tables in the grand ballroom on Sunday. Like last year, we have begun assigning tables in the foyer and so far have four exhibitors out there. If you have never attended our show you might wonder what the "mix" is between vintage and modern. As of this moment it's 80% vintage and 20%modern. If your looking for new pens, don't worry they will be there piled high and at great prices. Our auction is coming along and we will have some photos up on our website www.ohiopenshow.com in a few days. The Marriott has added some rooms to our block and will accept your reservations at the pen show rate of $87 up to the 19th. Call 1-800-228-3429. Call me at 740-454-2314 or email with questions.

Down pen site -- new one forthcoming
	10/14/2000: Amy Lane
	Several people have been looking for my missing discount Waterman pen site. A friend of mine was hosting the site on his server. However, his server fees recently doubled (actually nearly tripled), and he chose to discontinue his server subscription. Unfortunately, he forgot to download a complete copy of the site before cancelling his subscription -- and forgot to make a back-up before upgrading his computer system. Aaarrrggghhh! I am now in the process of learning HTML (in my copious free time), and am redoing all the pics and scans to create a new site. When eventually I have it done (hopefully 3-4 weeks), it will be at the following URL: www.aflane.com.

Pen Fair Next Month
	10/14/2000: John King Tarpinian
	If you happen to be in Southern California on November 10th or 11th you may want to pay a visit to The Fountain Pen Shop and its *SEVENTY-NINTH* Pen Fair. That�s right, this store has been around for 79 years and has the 3rd generation owner, Fred Krinke, at the helm. Fred�s display of vintage pens is worth a visit when you are in the area, not to mention his inventory of pen parts. Meet representatives from the major pen companies and test-out their new wares. Many vintage pen collectors will be in attendance and will have pens for sale, too. This event will be on Friday the 10th from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and on Saturday the 11th from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. The store is at 2640 South Myrtle Avenue #12, Monrovia, CA. Oh yes, here will be drawings for door prizes. I will have some of the PCA lapel pens for sale, at $5 each while I�m there. http://www.fountainpenshop.com/ Fred is a PenLovers' member and will probably post more information as we come closer to the event.

Edson
	10/14/2000: Gregg Bell
	Only certain colors have been discontinued in the Edson line, not the entire line, correct?

Canadian Pen Show!
	10/14/2000: Pearce Jarvis
	Hello everyone! It has been a long and hard year for collecting with pens being harder to find, and more expensive. Next Sunday, the 22nd of October might be able to change all of that. The once a year Canadian pen show will take place just outside of Toronto. Prices are all in Canadian $$ which should make buying for any American collector a breeze, with the exchange rate as they are at this present moment. Please email me for any info!

Sorry
	10/14/2000: Lee Chait
	My previous post was in error. I was looking at my Rubbermaid material instead of my Parker material.

National Pen Show Auction
	10/14/2000: Penstop
	Hi Everyone: Just a reminder that the National Pen Show is fast approaching and if you have not made your arrangements to attend, don't wait.... do it. It promises to be the best they've had yet. I just looked at the auction preview and there are some really nice pens being auctioned. The list is posted on their website at: http://www.natlpenshow.com. . . . Hope to see you all in New Jersey....Look for us . . . and our Show Specials . . .

New Duofolds
	10/14/2000: Lee Chait
	The new Duofolds will be in various shapes: round; square; or rectangular. So you won't misplace the cap they will have the same number imprinted on each cap and barrel (supply section). They may come in various colors although demonstrators in clear appear to be the predominant model. In a new innovation they will also tell you how much ink you can hold.

F/S = NOS Esterbrooks + Osmiroid "65" nibs
	10/13/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	e mail for list, thanx.

Duofolds discontinued?
	10/13/2000: Raymond Wong
	Is it really that the New Parker Duofolds have been discontinued as Esther said? When did that happen and what is the new line to replace it? Anyone knows?

EXTRA EXTRA!! New Conklin Pen Co.
	10/13/2000: Len Provisor
	How about that! Take a look at the NEW Conklin Pen Co., and it's a NOZAC. More details to follow, but can be seen on the Fountain Pen Hospital site. Looks terrific, will be introduced at the NJ and Ohio Pen Shows, brought to us by Rob Rosenberg. Thank you Rob for this fantastic looking pen.

Edson's and Duofold's
	10/13/2000: Esther
	I have a handful of Waterman Edson's left, at VERY SPECIAL PRICES. I also have a limited number of Parker Duofold's in Pearl Grey, at VERY ATTRACTIVE PRICES. Both lines have been discontinued. Thank you.

KAWECO SETS !!!
	10/13/2000: allen Gross
	Just arrived, Kaweco limited edition fountain pen & ballpoint sets in 14k F,M or B nibs. Set comes with leather carrying case,wooden presentation case and lifetime factory warranty. Beautiful green & bronze celluloid color. List price 375.00, while supply lasts 187.50, plus ups shipping. call 215-654-1555, credit cards accepted.

looking for Dayne Nix
	10/13/2000: Juan
	Hi Dayne: We met in the SF pen show. Please drop me a line, I'd like to contact you. Regards, Juan

Fountain Pens For Sale!!
	10/12/2000: Michael P. Clague
	Clague's Antiques and Collectibles - http://www.ncn.net/~mpcac/ - Just added many new pens to my website - look for **** after item number to locate the new items - I offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee!! - I welcome International Customers - Accepting Visa, Mastercard, and Discover Cards - All Pens and Pencils are restored - Thanks, Michael

Duofold Toothbrush
	10/12/2000: Paul Suskin
	Would anyone have the proper gold clip and jewel for this full size brown pearl pen. I had received a clip and jewel for an oversized Vac and they are just a little to large. I will be willing to trade for the correct part. Any assistance is appreciated.

PEN FAIR 11/17/00
	10/12/2000: Lee Chait
	On 11/17/00 between 11am-4pm, TOTAL OFFICE PRODUCTS at 2740 Cumberland Parkway, Smyrna Ga. will host its annual Pen Fair. 770-434-8677 or 1-888-867-7367 Jimmy Dolive sells many lines of pens (Aurora, Conway Stewart, Delta, Krone, Montegrappa, Namiki, Omas, Parker, Pelikan, Sheaffer, Viconti, and Waterman among others) and representatives from most or all of them will be present to show off new pens; answer questions; share knowledge and experience. I have therefore made an executive decision and changed the date of the Southeast Pen Collectors' Club Meeting for Nov. to the 17th. It was previously scheduled for the 5th of Nov. which was the same weekend as the Ohio Pen Show. As Jimmy Dolive/James Wong and many others were attending the Show we would have had to change our meeting location. There wil be a short meeting at 3pm at the TOP Pen Fair. The 12/3 meeting and auction remain unchanged and will also be at TOP at 2pm on 12/3.

Pen show in NM
	10/12/2000: Mary
	I will attend any show in New Mexico, work schedule permitting. Bring it on!!

re: Hypodermics for cartridges
	10/12/2000: Waco Johnny D
	Another option is to buy an irrigation syringe from AnnMarie at InkPalette, whose URL you will guess on the first try. Keep in mind some states classify hypos and needles as drug paraphernalia regardless of intended and/or actual use.

kulture
	10/12/2000: sherman barnes
	If anyone has one of the Waterman Kulture Clear Pens that was reviewed in Stylophiles this month - I'd like to buy one at a reasonable price....or if you know of a website where these can be purchased let me know. Thanks, Sherman

Removing discoloration
	10/12/2000: Stephen Lam
	It is not possible to "remove" discoloration. If you break a discolored barrel into two, you will find that the discoloration goes deep into the material. Any surface applied material will not be able to reverse the discoloration process. Don't buy a discolored pen and hope to restore it to its original glory.

Parker Vacumatic Feed and Nib
	10/11/2000: Mark Jackson
	Hello all -- I am looking for a nib, feed, and breather tube for a standard size Parker Vacumatic that I recently purchased (I am assuming that it is standard size, as it measures 5 1/8 inches stem to stern, cap on). If anyone has these parts for sale (even if it is only the feed), or knows a good resource for them, I would greatly appreciate it if you dropped me a line. THANKS!

Needles & etc.
	10/11/2000: Will Thorpe
	Feed store and vet supply stores sell needles and syringes. Just punch in things like horse wormer, vet supply, farrier products, equine vaccine on an internet serch and all kinds of dealers will pop up. You're talking less than a dollar for a syringe and a couple of needles. Size 18, 20 or 22 works fine, get 1.5 inch needles so they reach to the bottom of the bottle. Please recognize that when you push the plunger on the syringe the ink comes out with a lot of force and fills a cartridge real quick (read this again).

Answer to Ink
	10/11/2000: Ross McKinney
	Inks are such a personal thing, and lots of electrons get burned on this board and others giving contrasting opinions. I will give my choices, for what they are worth: Black: Aurora (only kind I buy); Blue - lots of options. Quink is my favorite, but I also use Omas Roma 2000 (feathers) and Aurora (never dries). Red: Sheaffer or Delta, but I only use it to edit papers. The other advice is that you can get a sampler from sam at www.Pendemonium.com or (I think) from AnneMarie at www.inkpalette.com Good luck! Ross

WTB clips
	10/11/2000: Charles
	I need several gold filled, ball end clips for Eclipse oversize flat tops. These clips are about 1 3/4" long. Anyone with a few for sale please contact me. Thanks.

Hypodermics for cartridges
	10/11/2000: Michael McKeehan
	Several Ink Jet cartridge refill kits sold on the net provide blunt syringes. I use one I received to refill my HP cartridges it does very well.

A few questions about Montblancs, Parker 51, Toguchi Fountain pens and Sheaffer's Lifetime Fountain Pen & Pencil set
	10/11/2000: Marco
	I acquired these pens from an Uncle who served in Japan after WWII. The Japanese fountain pens are nearly mint and I cannot find out any information about them. The Montblancs I have are #22 (black fountain pen), #220 (black fountain), #280 (ballpoint) and a Meisterstuck ballpoint (burgundy color) with a number at the top band ( CC161979 ). The Meisterstuck has a piece broken from the barrel - is it possible to have it replaced or repaired by Montblanc? Any info, including possible prices (all in excellent condition except for the Meisterstuck ballpoint) - I am interested in selling. Thanks! Marco please email: il_padrino@bigfoot.com

Osmia
	10/11/2000: Vince
	Greetings! I am looking to purchase any material related to Osmia, i.e. literature, advertisements and pens and pencils. Currently, I am gathering this material to do an Osmia web section on my website currently under construction. Please e-mail me with any information. Thank you!

Waterman pens
	10/11/2000: Shelly Rosenberg
	I used to deal with a woman named Amy Lane who imported Waterman pens and had a web site called ShopVacaville (I think). I can no longer find that site. Does anyone know where it is? What the name is? Thanks!

cartridge refils
	10/11/2000: fkozub
	If one is on friendly terms with one's Doc one can get the syringes for free. I sand off the sharp tip (make it blunt) with 220 grit sandpaper to prevent a clumsy movement from being an "ouch, now I have a spot tatoo moment". FYI-needle gauge sizing-smaller # bigger diameter opening/ bigger # smaller diameter opening. I found that 16,18 or 20 gauge needles fill the syringe quickly with little effort.

Hypodermic needles for refilling cartridges
	10/11/2000: Laurent Hodges
	Here in Iowa (but apparently not everywhere) you can go to a pharmacy and buy (very cheaply) disposable plastic hypodermic needles intended for use by diabetics, I believe. They work very, very well and last a long time. I bought several in a grocery store pharmacy some years ago and have not had to buy any others. The cartridges also seem to last years.

Stained Pens
	10/11/2000: Saul Kitchener
	Volkswagen dealers have a compound to clean the protective coating from cars transported by sea. I was told recently by one of their mechanics, and pen collector, that this substance will remove staining from vintage pens. I find this difficult to believe, but if anyone out there can get some of this stuff it would be worth trying. Whatever the result please let us know via this site.

Ink
	10/11/2000: Gregg Bell
	I need to restock my bottled ink supply. I was about to orger three bottles of Omas ink, until I read a comment that Omas inks are terrible. The opinions on Penman seem to vary widely as well.Is there any consensus? I don't need a hundred colors, just black, blue, and red. Gregg, (who writes everyday with an Omas Paragon and an Aurora 88.)


	10/11/2000: jeff
	Does anyone know how a Waterman fine nib such as is on a Hemisphere compares with an Aurora Talentum fine nib?

Autumn Inks

10/11/2000: Sam - Pendemonium

For your Autumn letter writing! Special prices on select Autumn Ink colors thru Sunday, Oct 15th. Full details on these inks on the website - http://www.pendemonium.com/inks.html

1. J HERBIN Cafe des Iles (coffee brown) Reg $8 Special $7
2. J HERBIN Jaune BOuton dor (buttercup yellow) Reg $8 Special $7
3. OMAS Sepia Reg $11 SPECIAL $10
4. OMAS Vespucci Red Reg $11 SPECIAL $10
5. PELIKAN Brilliant Red Reg. $8.25 SPECIAL $7
6. PELIKAN Brilliant Brown Reg. $8.25 SPECIAL $7
7. BEXLEY Mocha Reg $7 SPECIAL $6
8. BEXLEY Harmony Green Reg $7 SPECIAL $6
9. BEXLEY Crimson Reg $7 SPECIAL $6
10. WATERMAN Havanna Brown Reg $6 SPECIAL $5
11. SHEAFFER Burgundy Reg $4.50 SPECIAL $3.50
12. SHEAFFER Brown Reg $4.50 SPECIAL $3.50
13. SHEAFFER Kings Gold Reg $4.50 SPECIAL $3.50
14. CONWAY STEWART Brown Reg $6 SPECIAL $5
15. CONWAY STEWART Orange Reg $6 SPECIAL $5

We have a complimentary ink chart available, just drop us an email & please include your snail mail address.

No Quibble Satisfaction Guarantee! Checks & credit cards welcomed. Shipping is additional - we can ship up to 4 bottles of ink for $4 in the US. Email to reserve - sam@pendemonium.com or place your order directly on our secure order form on the website. Just click the Order Online Now button. Remember - special prices are good thru this Sunday, Oct 15th!

Good Collecting! Sam
http://www.pendemonium.com

Hypodermics for cartridges
	10/11/2000: Bill Stevens
	I've often read the hint of filling cartridges with bottled ink using a hypodermic. Do you use a regular doctor's needle from your neighborhood heroin addict, or is some other needle, like the kind I've seen for getting oil into tight places more appropriate?

Sheaffer's PFM IV
	10/10/2000: Bob Sachs
	I have a pristine Sheaffer's PFM IV pen and pencil set in burgundy with stainless steel cap and gold filled cap band and clips. It has the gold tassie on the bottom of the barrel. Any idea of the worth of this set? Thanks much. Bob

NM Pen SHow
	10/10/2000: Joel
	Allen, tanks for the input! Rest assured that I, and others who might be involved, will be paying attention to the input received here. I have limited the numbers of shows I attend as I don;t want to be away from home all the time and can't justify doing one a month. So, we will try to keep our eyes AND ears open to what folks are saying and doing. I think none of us wants to add more to an already full plate. REmember, this is in the conseptual stage at this point so we need to hear as much on tihs topic as we can, either in this forum or you can e-mail me privately. Right now, it's back to pen repairs!

Barrel Discoloration
	10/10/2000: Allan Fuld
	Michael;I have quite a few Sheaffers, and some other pens with cap and barrel discoloration. I have tried many types of bleaching agents, even caustics. I havent been sucessful in the slightest. This was after I researched the problem, and found out that no one else has been sucessful either. If you do suceed in finding a way, please publish it here,and I'm sure many people will be extremely grateful.

barrel discoloration
	10/10/2000: Michael McKeehan
	I have acquired a few jade colored pens in the past year, most notably an oversized Shaeffer Balance. It has some 80% discoloration to the barrel. Has anyone developed a technique for removing the yellowish brown stain?

Sheaffers FS
	10/10/2000: Steve Smith
	Four Sheaffer's Triumph nibbed (palladium), chrome capped (with squiggly lines like a Sovereign cap), circa 1960, colors are flesh tone, bright red, green, and blue (blue one has matching mech pencil), cartridge pens, EX- condition, I haven't written with these but these pens tend to be nice writers and cartridges are still available. $20 for all, first email wins, $3.20 Priority Mail...Thanks, Steve

another pen show ?
	10/10/2000: allen gross
	Speaking as a dealer who exhibits at most of the shows, what we don't need is another show ! Most of the shows this year were not sucessful for the exhibitors or the promoters. To put on a modest show means signing on the dotted line for about 20,000.00. If the show fails, your losses are quite high. I worked on the Orlando show and believe me most promoters get less than minimum wage for the hours put in. PS, the Colorado Pen scare was just that, a rumor. That doesn't mean they're not in trouble, but the bankruptcy scare was nothing more than a rumor. Goodnight pen pals, Allen Gross

Colorado Pen vs. Local Dealers
	10/10/2000: K.C. Bossert
	Hey guys, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about Colorado Pen. While I found the cute girly behind the counter nice to look at, the knowledge of the staff is definitely less than a pen specialist owned by the operator. I live in Atlanta and find the people at Artlite, and The Franklin Co up in Ellijay to be the best around. Both their shops are very nice, and the staffs are friendly. I wanted to ask if anyone can recommend a good shop in Chicago? I will be down town in a week and would like to check out something new. K.C.

Pen Show in NM
	10/10/2000: Joel
	Len, thanks for the suggestions and advice. I tend to agree that we can not do a national show at this stage of the game. THere are enough out there right now and folks are complaining about the numbers dropping for each of the big shows. I would hope that we could in the future. I also agree that timing is everything! I don't want to add another show that is going to line up against another and add one more show that folks are unable to attend. However, the American Contract Bridge League believed, using similar reasons, that a National event would not be well attended if held in NM. It was held, it had a VERY respectable drawing. NOpe, it did not top CHicago or Denver or LA, but we did had 10,000 tables at the event. Any event takes a good deal of planning, strong sponsorship and commitment from the community to attend. I think we can do it and I think we can do it with NM style and flare. They don't call it "The Land of Enchantment" for nothing! I just don't believe that Arizona is a better location and I would like to try one here. Perhaps "The Rocky Mountain Regional Pen Show". Don't miss out on an opportunitity to get in on the ground floor! :-) We have your table reserved, Len!

Color cartridges
	10/10/2000: Bob Sweeney
	Elaine asked on 10/8 about finding cartridges in her favorite colors. One strategy is to buy bottled ink in your favorite color, which is often easier to find, and refill the empty cartridges using an eye dropper or a hypodermic. I've found that ink is cheaper by the bottle. I recommend fountain pens, especially the older ones with the flexible nibs, to those of us who suffer wrist problems due to computer use. It is much easier to produce a dark, readable line without bearing down using a FP. (Any excuse to buy a vintage pen!) PS, I love this site!

Colorado Pen Company
	10/10/2000: DeanTweeddale
	Heard from a reliable source today that Colorado Pen was not going out of business. They are maybe being bought out by another company.

Pen Show in New Mexico
	10/10/2000: Len Provisor
	Ok ok ok ok ok . Albuquerque or Santa Fe is a no brainer drop-dead gorgeous place to be in the springtime. Or anytime for that matter. I'm from Illinois, I visited a few years ago, I'll go back in the drop of a Santa Fe taco. But remember, you can build a local show, don't think for a minute you'll get traffic enough to draw a national show. Somewhere in the middle Rocky Mountain area is room for a good local show. Dallas' recent local show, I hear from Sam F. was a great show, The Las Vegas event I hear is nice, but is awkwardly timed with other national shows. Between Denver, AZ and TX you can do it. Albq. would be the logical place as a convenient fly-in, with a mandatory side trip to Neal and Violet Frank's Santa Fe Pens on the high plateau, who, I bet would be more than happy to host an open house with lots of free food, gifts, samples and entertainment. Problem is, once there it would be very very difficult to leave. Yes, a local show in Albq/Santa Fe would be a great idea. I'd go in a minute. But pick your timing very carefully.

Colorado Pen Company
	10/10/2000: Henry Smith
	Chuck and Dean, I live in So. California and have done business with two branches of the Colorado Pen Company. After buying a few pens from them, at retail prices, I discovered Fountain Pen Hospital, The Fountain Pen Shop, and Swisher Pens. I happened to mention to the manager of the CPC Costa Mesa store that I was buying pens at MUCH BETTER PRICES than CPC offerred, they said they would match the prices. They couldn't even come close to Swisher prices! They told me to buy my Edson from Swisher, which I did. I was in the CPC store last Friday and saw a really nice Dupont. When they began to pressure me to buy it, I said I'd have to check the prices elsewhere--I knew I could get AT LEAST 20% off. CPC offerred me 10% if I "bought it today." No way!

UK 51 Inner Caps NEEDED
	10/9/2000: Joel
	I need a LOT of inner caps for UK made 51s. Please contact me if you have a large supply (or know of someone who does)! Thanks

Phoenix Pen Show?!?
	10/9/2000: Joel
	Allan, you live in Albuquerque! IS there some thing wrong with this state that makes you want to travel several hundred miles, not be able to find a hotel room at a reasonable rate and send both money and traffic there. I think some might disagree, I am one of those! I would certainly be willing to help organize an event in NM where we have both the space, some VERY knowledgeable collectors, significant help from the Chamber, the Tourist Department (I know the Cabinet Secretary), good entertainment, the BEST MEXCIAN FOOD in the US, skiing, Native Americans, less traffic, the Balloon Fiesta (ok, so it's not in February), Santa Fe, and did I mention the BEST MEXICAN FOOD NORTH OF THE BORDER! Golf. And, if you don't like ALbuquerque, then we can do Las Cruces!

Product Updates
	10/9/2000: PenstopOnline
	We have just updated our special offerings page and have a great item everyone has been looking for, clear plastic pen storage tubes. These tubes protect the pens from damage, store well in small areas, are great as shipping tubes and are very reasonably prices at $9.99 a Dozen, plus s/h. We also have a special purchase on the Waterman Night & Day Sterling Overlay at $129.99 for a limited time only. There are still a few Sheaffer Stainless Steel Targas left at $37.50 and the Sheaffer Sterling Silver Legacy at $225.00. Come visit us by clicking the link above for PenstopOnline.

Glass Dip Pens
	10/9/2000: Bill Stevens
	For glass dip pens, check with Sam at Pendemonium.com. My wife started collecting them a couple of years ago and they are great, unless you drop them.

Glass Dip Pens
	10/9/2000: Tom
	Got my first glass dip pen when travelling in Italy. I love the way it writes. Anyone know where they can be purchased in the U.S.? Can't find them on e-bay or in search. Please e-mail if you know where I can purchase glass dip pens. Thank you.

sterling targa pencil
	10/9/2000: Mike Morgan
	I am looking for a pencil to match a pen like the one I have posted at http://users.interconnect.net/mmorgan/targa.htm Did the make one?

Colorado Pen Co.
	10/9/2000: Chuck Swisher
	Bruce, I'm sorry to hear this about the Colorado Pen store in Norfolk. However, to be honest I'm really a little surprised they have lasted this long. Since we already had one good pen store in downtown Norfolk (Norfolk Stationery) that offers at least some discounts on most of the same writing instruments carry, it was beyond me how CPC thought they could sell everything at list price and survive in this area. Granted, I don't get down to the mall very much, but both times I visited this store I was very disapointed to find a very limited number of fountain pens available. The manager explained to me that there is very little demand for fountain pens in this city and that most of his customers are looking for MontBlanc ball points (this may explain why we get so many calls for these pens :-). If they do go under (which I hope is only a rumour), you should be able to find a decent selection of inks at Norfolk Stationery on Granby St (down by the Waterfront). If not, give us a call and we will make arrangements to have some delivered. Best regards, Chuck Swisher at cspens@mindspring.com Swisher Pens, Inc. www.swisherpens.com

Rotring fountain pen
	10/8/2000: Donald Grose
	I recently purchased a Rotring fountain pen and notice that ink accumulates on the top side of the nib when I write with it or when it has been capped and not used for a while. Is this normal? I've never seen this with my Cross or Sheaffer fountain pens.

Ken:Getting started
	10/8/2000: Lee Chait
	Email me for directions if you're in the Atlanta area and you can come to our Club meeting 11/5 2pm at Jimmy Dolive's Total Office Products near the Cumberland Mall at I-285 and Hwy 41. About 10-15 us wil bein Colmbus fo rhte Ohio show that day but there will be about 20-30 people to make you feel welcome (and eventually get some dues out of your for a yearly membership). One of the top repair people in the country, Rick Horne, is generally at every meeting. I've just got a solid gold Presidential 75 that looks like it just came out of the box back from him after havng several dents taken out and hte tassies changed. We have a Club auction on December 3. Next to going to a pen show you can't beat the information you'll obtain at the meetings from both long time pen collectors and also beginners who started in the past year or two as you are. I myself started in 8/98. I started buying every Parker in sight but then started narrowing my focus to limited areas and have settled in on the Parker 75's and most recently the Premiers; Modern Duofolds; Dispoaly cases and Parker advertising items- sales kits; individual advetising pens any vintage; signs; ephemera; etc. I have a few vacs left for sale and some early duofolds but generally stick to my specific areas of interest. I'll look for a LL refill for you in Columbus but few of them are still writing. Good Luck.

getting started
	10/8/2000: Len Provisor
	Ken, fountain pens can be a fascinating hobby. First, ask youself what is it about pens that have caught your attention. Most collectors have a focus that appeals to them, be it vintage pens in certain colors, brands or periods of manufacture such as the deco period of the 1920's, Wahl Dorics with their disctinctive barrel shapes and colors. Perhaps it is just the end result of using a fountain pen, such as creating a nice script in calligraphy, seeing the form and shape of italics from a broad oblique stub nib, or even a vintage Copperplate typestyle. I would suggest...attend as many pen shows as you are able, look at everything of interest, ask a million questions, scour the web for pen links that can give you invaluable information. Look for other pen collectors in your area to share your hobby. Most pen sites such as Penlovers, has a source link page, visit as many as you can. Fountain Pen Hospital is a good source for many books on fountain pens. Once you have an idea of direction, go to a pen show and start chasing those treasures. Remember, foutain pens are also made to be used, restore them and enjoy the pleasures of letter writing. have fun hunting, and let us know how you fare.

Colorado Pen Co.
	10/8/2000: Ron
	r.e. bankruptcy? Haven't heard this before, but it wouldn't surprise me! They price everything at LIST price. Anyone who has been around the block a couple of times knows that you can find your pen discounted at a number of places. Colorado has nice stuff, but why pay list if you don't have to?

Getting started
	10/8/2000: David Kaplan
	Ken, I couldn't agree more with Allan. When I first started I had an opportunity to go to NYC and while there I visited Berliner Pen. To his great credit, Berliner refused to sell me anything. He recommended that I buy "Fountain Pens and Pencils" by Fischler and Schneider as Allan recommends. There is no substitute for reading as much as possible first. Then... go to a pen show. After that, you can feel free to trade on the internet. Good luck.

Getting Started
	10/8/2000: Allan Fuld
	Ken--The most important thing about starting a collection, in my opinion, is to have a reference library. The best book I know of to begin with is"Fountain Pens and Pencils" by Fischler and Schneider.

getting strated
	10/8/2000: ken
	Any thoughts on the best way to get started in the pen collecting area. Should I stay with one brand/style/type? I have used e bay some-are there other avenues to explore? How do I know what is a good price to pay for pens/pencils?

Liquid Lead
	10/8/2000: Ken
	Where can I obtain refills for a Parker Liquid Lead Pencil. Looking in Atlanta. Any information appreciated.

Color cartridges
	10/8/2000: Bill Stevens
	For a large selection of inks and cartridges, try http://inkpalette.com/

parker fountain pen cartridges
	10/8/2000: Elaine
	I have a Parker 88 fountain pen I dearly love. When I purchased it, it came with a 'sapphire' blue (very deep blue) cartridge & I would love to find a source of some color cartridge these days besides black (I occasionally run across washable blue but not recently). I once ran across a foreign supplier online(French??? British or ???) that listed sapphire & other color cartridges, but I was new to the Internet then & didn't know how to get around, & didn't bookmark the site. Can anyone help me locate anyplace I might find colored cartridges that will fit?

Bettoni pens?
	10/8/2000: Peter kaiser
	Has anyone an idea where I might find a Bettoni pen??? Please respond to grachr@hotmail.com

PCA Pins
	10/7/2000: John King Tarpinian
	The honor of selling PCA lapel pins has been bestowed upon me. The pins are a color reproduction of the PCA logo. . If you missed getting one at the last pen show or are not able to attend a pen show you may get them from me. They are $5.00 each, plus $1 for shipping in a padded envelope via First Class mail, for a total of $6.00. Make the check payable to me, John King Tarpinian, and I will make sure the funds are disbursed properly. Mail your request to me at the following address: John King Tarpinian PCA Librarian P.O. Box 10435 Glendale, CA 91209-3435

Colorado Pen Co.
	10/7/2000: Bruce
	Dean, I haven't heard the rumor but I can believe it. Their store in Norfolk is just about down to the bare walls and I see no new stock coming in. I checked with them in July about a Rotring 600 in Lava and they told me that it it would Sept. before they could even think about ordering it,it had to be put on their Christmas order. Now they are just about out of ink to sell. They have all the earmarks of going belly up at least here in Norfolk.

Sheaffer Pen Tray for Sale
	10/7/2000: Dick Bowker
	Vintage tray for 12 pens. $125. http://lizard.bio.alma.edu/tray.JPG

Tucson Pen Show
	10/7/2000: Mary
	Kristi- What a great idea. I live in Albuquerque, where there is only one pen store. I would definitely attend a show in Tucson.

Tucson Pen Show?
	10/7/2000: Kristi
	Why not develop a pen show in Tucson in March or April? The city is less expensive than Phoenix and our area full of fine choices for family fun. Old Tucson where movies were made is close to the world class Arizona Sonoran Desert Museum where kids could see mountain lions down to scorpions. Great golf,lots of tennis, and no pen stores.Winter rates apply here too, just as they do in Florida or Phoenix. But if enough interest exists for an Arizona site we could begin to check out venues.

Parker Duofold Cap
	10/7/2000: Rene
	I am looking for Parker Duofold Cap mint or near mint condition,complete,senior size and black color..if you would like to sell,contact me,please.Thanks

Ohio Pen Show
	10/7/2000: Terry Mawhorter
	Why Ohio? Find out why collectors say they can buy at the Ohio show. See fresh items! One exhibitor(has dug to the back of the closet)and tells me he will put out different items each day. We have several collections coming to the show to be sold off, much of it before Sunday and some of it in good bag lots. We have exhibitors coming from all over the USA and France, Germany, England, Canada, and South America. If you have not received your invitation to attend the Ohio Pen Show, don't delay. Email me now with your snailmail address and we will rush out a registration flyer. Take a look at our updated website www.ohiopenshow.com for pictures and details. Hotel rooms at the the Columbus Marriott North(free airport shuttle 6a to 12p) are available at the pen show rate of $87. single/double, through October 16, phone 1-800-228-3429. We will have 120 tables "piled high" with vintage and new writing instruments, plus PEN REPAIR ON SITE, parts, parts and more parts, at least 2 dealers who have inkwells, plus pen reference books, ink, pensacs, etc. Weekend registration(the fun begins on Thursday at 5pm) is $40 and includes spouse/significant other. Our address is PO Box 3324, Zanesville, Ohio 43702. Phone 740-454-2314.

Phoenix Pen Show
	10/7/2000: Lee CHAIT
	The major problem with a Phoenix Show in Feb. would be a hotel at a reasonable rate. While I can stay at the Marriott Camelback Resort for under $100 at various times of the year, the price is triple that in Feb. which is a peak time in the Phoenix area. There already is the very successful LA Show in Feb. and another western show in the same month would increase travel and other expenses considerably for the majority of the dealers who would be coming from the east. Fine with me though if someone wants to undertake the task. I have several friends out there I'd like to see more often that I do now.

Start a Phoenix Pen Show?
	10/7/2000: Allan Fuld
	What about someone in Phoenix starting a pen show in Feburary? It would be a nice place to spend a few days in the winter. There are enough people in the area, and adjacent areas (Tucson, Albuquerque Etc.) to make it worth while. You could have it include watches also.

Info. Needed
	10/7/2000: Lee CHAIT
	Does the name Marvin BARAB ring a bell with any Parker collectors from the good ole days?. Unverified information is that he was an employee of Parker many years ago however the pen that has his name is a Flat Top Solid 14kt. Gold 75 Presidential which would be a lot more recent than his reported employment. The cap engraving is exquisite.

F.PENS FOR SELL OR TRADE
	10/7/2000: RAV
	PRICES INCLUDED SHIPPING VIA REGISTERED AIR MAIL WORLDWIDE. ALL THE FOUNTAIN PENS ARE WORKING AND THEY HAS ORIGINAL PARTS AND NIBS. ANY QUESTION,NIBS,PENS PARTS,SPECIAL CASE OR DOUBTS,PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 1.-EVERSHARP NUMBER "64",14 KS. SOLID GOLD CAP,LEVER FILLER,RING,ETC,MUSTARD BARREL,DISCOLORATION IN THE HOOD,14KS. FINE NIB SIZE........U$200 2.-MONTBLANC DESK PEN(JUST FOUNTAIN PEN), CIRCA 1955,BLACK,14KS. BROAD NIB SIZE, INK WINDOW.......................U$100 3.-MONTBLANC SL-70,BLUE,CIRCA 1986,GOLDEN MEDIUM NIB SIZE,NEAR MINT CONDITION, CARTRIDGES/CONVERTER FILLER, BOX AND PAPERS...........U$90 4.-WATERMAN TAPARITE,BLACK BARREL,LEVER FILLER, GOLDEN CAP (SOME SMALL DENTS) 14KS. HOODED MEDIUM HARD NIB SIZE....................U$50 5.-SHEAFFER ADMIRAL, SMALL,BROWN MARBLE,NEW, LEVER FILLER,FINE FLEXIBLE NIB SIZE...U$50 6.-VISCONTI MANHATTAN,TRANSLUCENT RUBY BURGUNDY, MINT CONDITION,NEW NEVER USED,IN LUXURY BOX AND PAPERS,BROAD NIB SIZE, MADE IN FLORENCE,ITALY,LOOKS LIKE THE STYLE OF OLD PARKER VACUMATIC INK VIEW.........................U$200 7.BLACKBIRD,ENGLISH,BUTTON FILLER SYSTEM LIKE SWAN BRAND,SOLID RED,SMALL,FLEXIBLE 14KS. BROAD NIB SIZE..U$80 8.WYVERN,#202,BUTTON FILLER,ENGLISH,NEW OLD STOCK,MINT BOXED WITH INSTRUCTIONS AND STICKER,COLOR GREY WITH GOLD FILLED TRIM,MADE 1948,NIB POINT 14 KS. SOLID GOLD BROAD SIZE...U$100 SCAN AVAILABLE 9.EK DESIGN,DEMOSTRATOR,BLUE CRYSTAL,MEDIUM NIB SIZE, GERMANY,PUMPING FILLER.........U$10 10.PARKER VACUMATIC STANDARD,TWO TONE BROAD/STUB NIB SIZE, TRANSPARENT GOLD/BROWN BARREL..U$100.......... SCAN AVAILABLE 11.PARKER 25 FOUNTAIN PEN,ENGLISH,HARD TO FIND,STANLESS STEEL FINISH,GIFT BOX,NEW OLD STOCK,MINT CONDITION,ORIGINAL OPEN PACKAGE,MEDIUM NIB SIZE,CONV./CART.,PAPERS, ETC. ................$30 12. OSMIA AW. FABER CASTELL # 33 ,GERMANY.NEW OLD STOCK,MINT CONDITION,BOX,PAPERS,LEVER FILLER, MARMO. LIGHT. BLUE, NIB SIZE "3", FINE......U$70 13.WYVERN "707" FOUNTAIN PEN,ENGLISH,SEMIHOODED GOLD NIB BROAD SIZE,NEW OLD STOCK,ORIGINAL BOX AND PAPERS,GRAY,STUD VACUUM FILLING.....U$100 14.PARKER 45 SET,NEW OLD STOCK,MADE IN ARGENTINA,BALLPEN AND FOUNTAIN PEN. BROWN ENAMEL FINISH,ORIGINAL BOX,FINE NIB SIZE....U$100 15.PARKER 51 VACUMATIC,BLUE,STAINLESS STEEL CAP,FINE NIB SIZE,MADE IN U.S.A., PLASTIC VAC. FILLER,NEW SAC.......U$50 16. WAVERLY CAMERON,EYEDROPPER FILLER,HARD RUBBER BLACK,NEW OLD STOCK, FLEXIBLE FINE NIB SIZE,14 KS. NIB, MADE IN GREAT BRITAIN...U$60 17.WATERMANS 12 1/2, SAFETY , USA - Black chased hard rubber 12 1/2 safety - crisp imprints on cap and barrel - 1915 - BROAD nib size,near mint condition,inked once....U$200 THANKS

Colorado Pen????
	10/7/2000: Dean
	Any truth to the rumor that Colorado Pen is in bankruptcy?

Ohio Pen Show
	10/7/2000: Dean Tweeddale
	The 6th Annual Ohio Pen Show on November 2-5 is fast approaching, this promises to be the best Ohio show yet. Tables are selling rapidly as is the hotel, with 100+ tables of vintage pens, new pens, parts, and on-site pen repair, this is a show not to miss. Oh and don’t forget the seminars, the auction, the Friday night pizza party (sponsored by Penlovers), and the Saturday night desert party put on by the show organizers Terry and Sonya Mawhorter. This will obviously be one of the best shows of the year. Contact information can be found here in Penlovers just click one the “Penshows” button. Hope to see you there. Dean

National Pen Show
	10/7/2000: Allen Gross
	On October 28th & 29th the National pen show will be held in Somerset New Jersey. It will be hosted by Berliner Pen Co. who have always done an excellent job and produce wonderful shows. Both tables and hotel rooms are about 80% soldout, so if you have interest in attending, please contact Bernie or Geoff at 800-440-pens. It's held at the Doubletree Hotel in Somerset NJ and special rates are given to exhibitors and attendees. An auction will be held on Saturday along with several seminars. Take it from one who exhibits every year, you won't be dissappointed !!!

Conway Stewart Casein
	10/7/2000: Northwest Pen Works
	Krisi, I have worked on quite a few vintage Conway Stewarts made from casien plastic. It is actually harder than some other plastics, and I have yet to see a broken or cracked pen. One thing you cannot do with a casein pen is soak it in water. It is made from a milk byproduct and, will distort or disolve in water, if exposed to it for a long enough period of time. So, I wouldn't stir my coffee with a Conway ;-) Conway makes some of the most beautiful plastics out there. I wouldn't be at all worried about the durability of these pens. I'm not too familiar with the new pens, but the old ones generally have wonderfully smooth nibs.

Ohio Pen Show Want List
	10/6/2000: Len Provisor
	Looking forward to one of the best pen shows of the year, it's almost here. I really don't have a hot list of pens I gotta have, but here are the things I look for in case you may bring them along, let me know. Unusual cap "51"s, barrel/cap cut-outs and demonstrator pens, old advertising ink blotters with nice graphics, any subject, ink blotter catalogs from blotter companies, Parker pen advertising ephemera, and literature, vintage Americana writing equipment or accessories, especially wood cased ink travelers from any ink or pen company. Early Americana soapstone carved inkwells, they look like grey/blue soft stone, usually 2 1/2 - 3" square, crude hand cut. If you are into old advertising ink blotters, let me know, I happen to have a few thousand for trade or sale. What a fetish!!

Elegance & Fountain Pens
	10/6/2000: Will Thorpe
	Hey Mike, that's my Fine Line! I used it in High School and I've been looking for it ever since. Bring it to the North Texas Fontain Pen Collectors Show tomorrow (earlier post).


	10/6/2000:
	Mike wrote: "The older folks at the meeting just raved about it, how interesting and neat that was that I wrote with a fountain pen." . . . . . . . . . . . . . . uh, Mike ..... careful now. I should think there's quite a number of us who read this board, used fountain pens in the 50's, and don't (like to) think of themselves as "older." ;-) ~Michael~

Bonhams Auction London
	10/6/2000: Aaron Forbes
	Wow ! I just heard that a vintage Pilot Namiki sold for $165,000 !!! Is this a world record ? And will this impact on vintage Namiki prices. In other words has part of my collection just increased in insurable value or is it a one-off ?

Levenger Fountain Pens?
	10/6/2000: James Marshall
	Hi all. I like fountain pens and I've got two of them, a Waterman Phileas and the original Namiki Vanishing Point, both of which I ordered from Levenger. Their catalog and web site have quite a variety of fountain pens by different manufacturers and I like seeing what they have. Some companies I recognize, some I don't. I'm curious to know how good Levenger brand fountain pens are, if any of you happen to know. A few Levenger pen descriptions mention collaborations with other makers, so they apparently don't make all of their pens by themselves. But they do have some at good prices, so I'm interested in knowing how good they are. If you have comments about Levenger brand pens or would like to suggest other names to look at, please let me know (preferably by e-mail since I tend to forget to check web message boards). Thanks a lot. :)

Elegence and Fountain Pens
	10/6/2000: Mike
	I have a fun Friday anecdote for everyone. The other day here at work, we had a staff meeting and I had with me a little Sheaffer Fine Line, pink with a brass cap to write with. It was really a cheapy I picked up as a set w/ a pencil, that I restored myself. The older folks at the meeting just raved about it, how interesting and neat that was that I wrote with a fountain pen. It carried them down memory lane as they recounted using them in school back in the 50's. Amazing what even a cheap little pen like that Fineline can do in the right place at the right time.

re: Cinwat Stewart casein
	10/6/2000: Waco Johnny D
	Isn't that the same stuff Parker used for its pastel pens, the stuff through which ink would bleed if you had a sac leak? I can't remember where I read it, but I seem to recall that "through-the-material" discoloration was one of the disadvantages. Maybe CS has overcome this (unless it was only folklore to begin with).

Diplomat Address
	10/6/2000: Timbo
	Nick Conway asked and I would like to know also if there is an address for the Diplomat pen manufacturer? TIA

i love writing with fp's!
	10/6/2000: vinod
	Hi, I've just found this fantastic site for pen lovers and I'm feeling very happy that at last I can check out on others who love pens. I write and I've written a humorous piece on my love for pens and in case anyone wants to read it they can send mail. of course it's free!

Pen Show - Don't Forget
	10/5/2000: Will Thorpe
	North Texas Pen Show October 7th. See earlier post. Just wanted to mention I'll have my world famous collection of Wearever Fairy Gold pens on display. Sorry these aren't for sale but they are so ugly my wife swears they glow in the dark!

Ball point pen crack repair
	10/5/2000: Will Thorpe
	I cracked the barrel of a Mont Blanc ball point in 1986. I couldn't believe the cost of a new barrel, which I paid. I proceeded to crack the second barrel in the same place, near the tip. I put about one quarter inch of two part epoxy down the barrel. Drilled it out after it hardened. Cleaned it up with some polish. Crack now really hard to see. The gold tip no longer screws off but the pen has worked fine for 14 years!

Pen Stores in Paris
	10/5/2000: ted fichtenholtz
	Besides Glen Marcus' site, are there any other resourses wher I can find pens store sin Paris?

Waterman 32 �
	10/5/2000: J.F.Ouellette
	Hi, Yesterday evening during a break at my night class someone showed me a pen that belonged to her grandfather. She had learned I collect pens and wanted me to help identify them. She also told me that there were many others she didn't bring with her. Patricians maybe? The pen I have questions about is a red Waterman Ripple marked 32� with Nickel trim. I didn't know such a pen existed. Does anyone have any info on it. It was made in Canada. Thanks JF Ouellette Montr�al , Canada

Fountain Pen Purchasing
	10/5/2000: David
	I am a student the upper school. I have a sensa ballpoint which I am in love with already but I would like to purchase a new fountain pen becuase they look pretty cool and sophistacated. I saw a cheap pen in the Colorado Pen Company catalog and would like to know if I should purchase this pen. The pen is the 2002 INOXCROM fountain pen. Should I get it? Please e-mail me to let me know as I don't go on this board at all. Thanks. davidcoin@yahoo.com

ballpoint pen repair
	10/5/2000: kckendrick
	I have cracked the case of my Montblanc ballpoint pen and need an 800 number to find out how to mail it in for repairs. Anyone have the number? Thanks

Conways Casein
	10/5/2000: Dean Tweeddale
	Kristi, I believe that is correct that the casein is not quite as durable however in normal use I don’t think that you have anything to worry about. The new Conway’s are designed well and if I’m not mistaken the cap rings are solid gold so that you will never have a brassing problem there. I don’t think that any other pen manufacturer does that. I have one of the casein ones and see absolutely no wear to it after four months of use. The acrylics are really great pens in terms of color but the casein ones are beautiful with much added depth of color. Mine has not melted or turned to milk so I wouldn’t hesitate on the casein. Just my opinion of course but maybe one of the Conway guys will come on and give you more facts to go on. Dean

NIB Help!
	10/5/2000: Andrew Apostle
	I have a waterman pen i purchased aboust 6 months ago. The pen was dropped (shame on me)resulting in nib damage. The whole pen was about $80. Is there anyway to get a replacement nib or exchange?

Duofold Pencil Repairs
	10/5/2000: MSCockburn
	I have been repairing Duofold pencils, flat top. I cleans and polish the crown and the cone. Clean and polish the barrel, removed any dirt or stains as much as possible. Clean the mechanism, remove any lead, and established the mechanism to prevent spillage, that is when there is a crack in the metal barrel, that happens in 90 % of the pencils I see. If any will need these pencils repair let me know. Thank You Sincerely M.S. (Jimmie) Cockburn PensMSCpens pensmscpens.cockburn@erols.com

Cinwat Stewart casein
	10/5/2000: Kristi
	Just enjoyed reading Stylophiles and now have a question. Mike Stevens wrote about the new Conway Stewarts and said that the casein pen material is "not as durable as some plastics". Am I to understand that casein is weaker or inferior or not destined for a hundred years from now? The casein Conway I have feels great in hand and somewhat "cool" in Arizona's hot summer weather.

Congratulations!
	10/5/2000: Donal
	Congratulations Dean and Bill, I wish you every success with your new venture. As you know myself and a few pen buddies just launched a new site last Sunday..Pentrace The Site for Fountain Pens that Write at http://www.pentrace.com. Its the home of the "snails" and we have some good content and chat! I am looking forward to some friendly rivalry ! Here's a toast... "May the Pen Collector Win!" kind regards Donal Higgins

Thanks Bill for a great Magazine
	10/4/2000: Len Provisor
	Bill and Dean, great magazine. I just read every article. I especially like Maryann Zucker's article about the Omas bash at Fountain Pen Hospital. I was very disappointed not being able to attend, but this tour was great to read and view. Thanks to you and Maryann.

Pen Show - Texas
	10/4/2000: Will Thorpe
	The North Texas Fountain Pen Collectors 5th Annual Pen Show. Oct 7th, 9am - 3pm. Richardson, TX Civic Center, SW corner of US 75 and Arapaho Road just North of Dallas. Invitations sent to over 400 collectors. No admission charge. Last year we had about 35 dealers, hope to be bigger this year. We have a good time, drink coffee, eat pizza, sell, trade, haggle. Low key and informal. Info: Lowell Linsey @ 972-278-6336 or Pen Wright @ 214-350-7814.

Edson
	10/4/2000: Will Thorpe
	Friend of mine has an Edson. He flys twice a week from Dallas to Washington, D.C. Never had any leaking problem. I have a Waterman Phleas that has over 68,000 mile in the air and it hasn't leaked. Waterman seems to make a pretty good pen.

Source for Rotring
	10/4/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	http://www.dickblick.com/homepage/a/ and http://www.thefranklinco.com

Stylophiles Online Magazine -- New Addition to Penlovers
	10/4/2000: Dean Tweeddale
	Well, Hope I had you all wondering what was coming to Penlovers. I just finished cracking the Champagne bottle over the computer in celebration. Many of you know of and have enjoyed the Online Magazine Stylophiles by Bill Riepl. Well Bill’s Stylophiles is now the magazine of Penlovers and the October issue is online. Just go to Penlovers homepage www.PenLovers.net and click on “Stylophiles Magazine”. Bill and I have been working on this collaboration for about a month now and are very excited to offer you not only the best online pen site but also the best online magazine. Bill will of course still be the Editor of the Stylophiles magazine and should be congratulated on the great job of putting the October issue together. Hope you enjoy this new and exciting addition to Penlovers. Dean Tweeddale

gold nib, self filler, gold filled trim - sale
	10/4/2000: Scaupaug@aol.com
	$25 each fully restored if 4 or more bought, otherwise they are $30 each including postage ht tp: //members.aol.com/scaupaug/admiral/index.ht ml (spaces made to enable posting of web page address), all fully restored, solid gold with platinum trim nibs, heavy gold filled trim, visuated and textured sections, ebonite feeds, choice of nib widths, all self filling (lever filled or touchdown) - get holiday shopping done in one order and have people think you bought them 14K gold nibbed restored vintage pens worth a small fortune when in reality you spent $25 each. Chocolate, blue, forest green, gray, black, burgundy...

ROTRING PENS
	10/4/2000: SCOTT
	LOOKING FOR ANYONE OUT THERE WHO CAN GIVE ME INFORMATION ON WHERE TO FINE THE BEST SELECTION OF ROTRING BRAND NAME PENS.

Pens FS
	10/4/2000: Mike
	Parker Norman Rockwell LE in original factory packaging, NOS, $875 plus shipping. NOS MB 149 in box w/ "149" ink, brass filling mechanism, broad 18k nib. $285 plus shipping.

Mont Blanc
	10/4/2000: R. Dunnaway
	I need to find a replacement cap for my Mont Blanc Rollerball PEN. Any idea where I might find one? Thanks.

Few pens for sale
	10/4/2000: Steve
	1) Waterman Edson, Med Nib, Green Barrel, both boxes, with converter. $250.00........2) Parker 51.....2 pens, both sterling silver caps, slight dings, both fine nibs, one blue barrel, the other gray barrel, $80.00 each............ 3) Tiffany Ballpoint pens, 2, both sterling silver, first has stars and stripes on clip, slight gap between clip and bbl, (could send to Tiffany for adjustment) $40.00, and other pen with Caduceus on clip $45.00..........* 4) 2 Cross ballpoint pens, both sterling silver, the first a Cross Century, has slight ding, $35.00, the other needs polishing and a refill, $30.00 for that one..........*** 5) Waterman Kultur Shock fountain pens, 3 pens clear translucent colors, green and purple with fine nibs, and a blue pen with a medium nib, $30.00 each. 6) Waterman Kultur pens, fountain pens, fine nibs, one red, one black, $10.00 each...... Please add $5.00 on for insured priority mail. email, oyster55@earthlink.net for further questions, or to reserve pen. thanks

Edson
	10/4/2000: Alan
	Khor, I would not say it is leakproof because any pen could leak. All I am saying is that the ones I own have never leaked.

waterman edson
	10/4/2000: Khor Chiea Chuen
	I have heard enthusiastic reviews about the waterman edson fountain pen. But i have a question to ask. is it actually LEAKPROOF? I have heard that ALL fountain pens with a fingernail shaped nib has tendencies of leaking. please comment

Edson
	10/4/2000: Alan
	Khor, I will tell you that I own several Edson fountain pens and have never experienced them leaking. One of them I use daily, with an extra fine nib, and it has never skipped a beat. With all the hot deals on them now I don't think you could go wrong to purchase one. They are wonderful pens!

Waterman edson. is it the best???
	10/4/2000: khor chiea chuen
	I have heard a comment from my local dealer in s'pore that the waterman edson has a tendency to leak! he says ALL fountain pens with a fingernail nib can leak, despite the advertising gimmicks made. It was advertised that the edosn has a hood over its feed to prevent leaking. really? please comment.

BIG EVENT
	10/3/2000: Dean Tweeddale
	COMING SOON, you won't want to miss it!! Keep watch for the anouncment. Dean

SHEAFFER "STYLO" F.PEN
	10/3/2000: Rene
	Dear Friends, I am looking for renew nib point for a Sheaffer Stylo Fountain pen,I�d like broad nib size.The stylo was a fountain pen maybe early 70,and it is very similar to Parker 180 nib point.. Any idea,please let me know.. thanks in advice,

10 NOS Esterbrook Dip-less pens for sale
	10/3/2000: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	Some with 3000 series gold plated Esterbrook nibs, music nib, stub nibs and some loose 3312 NOS nibs, a couple train blotters. e mail for the list. thanx

Oct'2000 update of the Parker 75 website
	10/3/2000: Lih-Tah Wong
	Greetings Penlovers! Just a quick note to say that I have put up the update for October over this past weekend. Some of the new items added include interesting variations of the sterling crosshatch grid aka Cisele (Cartier and Australian), a prototype in lizardskin pattern, and a burgundy section. Please come by and take a look if you have some interest. www.Parker75.com Regards, Lih-Tah Wong

SCPCC Meeting
	10/3/2000: John Maloney
	The next meeting of the Southern California Pen Collectors Club (SCPCC) will be held this Saturday, October 7, in Seal Beach. Our distinquished speaker will be SCPCC member John Mottishaw on nib repair and recent pen show events. All members should have received their copy of the Scribbles newsletter by this time with directions to the site in Leisure World. Please eMail me if you need directions, or call Fred Krinke at the Fountain Pen Shop at (626) 294-9974. Pizza for lunch courtesy of the SCPCC treasury. Yummy. Prospective members are cordially invited to attend. See you there. John

Sterling Targa Pencil
	10/3/2000: Mike Morgan
	I am looking for a pencil to match a pen like the one I have posted at http://users.interconnect.net/mmorgan/targa.htm

Italian vintage pens FS
	10/3/2000: Daniele Teppa
	Hello! I've some italian vintage fountain pens for sale at very reasonable prices. Please email for list (pics and prices available). Thankk you!

pen sacs available
	10/3/2000: Martin Smith/Woodbin Ltd.
	Printable information/order form for pen sacs and vacumatic diaphragms. Orders shipped the next business day. http://www.simcom.on.ca/woodbin

F/S Pelikan 400 Tortoise
	10/2/2000: Mark
	Offered for sale Pelikan 400 Tortoise, MIB, fine nib. $112 + shipping, I believe SRP is $275. TIA, Mark

snake pen
	10/2/2000: scaupaug@aol.com
	ht tp: // members.aol.com/ scaupaug/Snake-Pen/ index.ht ml (address broken with spaces, just reconstruct to see picture) Better with a clip and precious metal, picture posted at the site.

Pen Repair
	10/2/2000: Michael P. Clague
	Clague's Antiques and Collectibles - I forgot to tell you where and how to get intouch with Hal Arnold of Pen Restoration Services, LTD. You can email Hal at VintageWrite@aol.com or you can go to the following webiste URL: www.penkreations.com/ Excellent pen restoration services at a fair price!! Michael P. Clague

Impossible Pen Repair
	10/2/2000: Michael P. Clague
	Clague's Antiques and Collectibles. Just wanted to share a wonderful find with everyone. I have this lovely burgundy vacumatic with a striped section. Unfotunately the section must have been seriously glued into the barrel because it would not come out. The section even broke unfortunately, so I was stuck with a gorgeous pen and no way to fix. I tried every trick that I could but still couldn't get this boken piece to budge. I decided to send the pen barrel to HAL ARNOLD - PEN RESTORATION SERVICES, LTD. - Hal assured me that he had successfully done this type of repair and could assist me. He also tried several of his tricks and was not successful as well. Fortunately, he has the capability to use a special lathe. So he milled out the remaining section piece without harming the threads, then was able to clean out the threads and replace with another section. I received the pen today and the pen barrel is beautiful. Highly recommended service that I will use again!! A++++++ :-)

FOUNTAINPENS FOR SELL
	10/2/2000: Rene
	Hello Everybody, I have some pens for sell,. ALL THE FOUNTAIN PENS ARE WORKING AND THEY HAS ORIGINAL PARTS AND NIBS. ANY QUESTION,NIBS,PENS PARTS,SPECIAL CASE OR DOUBTS,PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 1.-EVERSHARP NUMBER "64",14 KS. SOLID GOLD CAP,LEVER FILLER,RING,ETC,MUSTARD BARREL,DISCOLORATION IN THE HOOD,14KS. MEDIUM NIB SIZE........U$100 2.-MONTBLANC DESK PEN(JUST FOUNTAIN PEN), CIRCA 1955,BLACK,14KS. BROAD NIB SIZE, INK WINDOW.......................U$100 3.-MONTBLANC SL-70,BLUE,CIRCA 1986,GOLDEN MEDIUM NIB SIZE,NEAR MINT CONDITION, CARTRIDGES/CONVERTER FILLER, BOX AND PAPERS...........U$90 4.-WATERMAN TAPARITE,BLACK BARREL,LEVER FILLER, GOLDEN CAP (SOME SMALL DENTS) 14KS. HOODED MEDIUM HARD NIB SIZE....................U$50 5.-SHEAFFER ADMIRAL, SMALL,BROWN YELLOW MARBLE,NEW, LEVER FILLER,FINE FLEXIBLE NIB SIZE...U$50 6.-VISCONTI MANHATTAN,TRANSLUCENT RUBY BURGUNDY, MINT CONDITION,NEW NEVER USED,IN LUXURY BOX AND PAPERS,BROAD NIB SIZE, MADE IN FLORENCE,ITALY,LOOKS LIKE THE STYLE OF OLD PARKER VACUMATIC INK VIEW.........................U$250 7.BLACKBIRD,ENGLISH,BUTTON FILLER SYSTEM LIKE SWAN BRAND,SOLID RED,SMALL,FLEXIBLE 14KS. BROAD NIB SIZE..U$80 8.WYVERN,#202,BUTTON FILLER,ENGLISH,NEW OLD STOCK,MINT BOXED WITH INSTRUCTIONS AND STICKER,COLOR GREY WITH GOLD FILLED TRIM,MADE 1948,NIB POINT 14 KS. SOLID GOLD BROAD SIZE...U$100 SCAN AVAILABLE 9.EK DESIGN,DEMOSTRATOR,BLUE CRYSTAL,MEDIUM NIB SIZE, GERMANY,PUMPING FILLER.........U$10 10.PARKER VACUMATIC STANDARD,TWO TONE BROAD/STUB NIB SIZE, TRANSPARENT GOLD/BROWN BARREL..U$100.......... SCAN AVAILABLE 11.PARKER 25 FOUNTAIN PEN,ENGLISH,HARD TO FIND,STANLESS STEEL FINISH,GIFT BOX,NEW OLD STOCK,MINT CONDITION,ORIGINAL OPEN PACKAGE,MEDIUM NIB SIZE,CONV./CART.,PAPERS, ETC. ................$30 12. OSMIA AW. FABER CASTELL # 33 ,GERMANY.NEW OLD STOCK,MINT CONDITION,BOX,PAPERS,LEVER FILLER, MARMO. LIGHT. BLUE, NIB SIZE "3", FINE......U$70 13.WYVERN "707" FOUNTAIN PEN,ENGLISH,SEMIHOODED GOLD NIB BROAD SIZE,NEW OLD STOCK,ORIGINAL BOX AND PAPERS,GRAY,STUD VACUUM FILLING.....U$100 14.PARKER 45 SET,NEW OLD STOCK,MADE IN ARGENTINA,BALLPEN AND FOUNTAIN PEN. BROWN ENAMEL FINISH,ORIGINAL BOX,FINE NIB SIZE....U$60 15.PARKER 51 VACUMATIC,BLUE,STAINLESS STEEL CAP,FINE NIB SIZE,MADE IN U.S.A., PLASTIC VAC. FILLER,NEW SAC.......U$95 16. WAVERLY CAMERON,EYEDROPPER FILLER,HARD RUBBER BLACK,NEW OLD STOCK, FLEXIBLE FINE NIB SIZE,14 KS. NIB, MADE IN GREAT BRITAIN...U$60 THANKS.

Penlovers
	10/2/2000: Dean Tweeddale
	Something really exciting coming to Penlovers and the Pen Community as a whole. Watch for the announcement here in the next two or three days. This is something you won’t want to miss. Dean

Parker T1 Fountain Pen
	10/1/2000: Paul
	Hello, I was going through an old desk and found a Parker T1 fountain pen that I received as a gift in high school. I used it during the school year and and on during the subsequent years. I noticed that now when I put an ink cartridge in, ink leaks from a hairline crack in the plastic under the nib. Does anyone know if it could be repaired? I remember writing to Parker Pen Co. about 12 years ago and they couldn't help me. Thanks. Paul

Eversharps and Parkers FS
	10/1/2000: Steve Smith
	1. 14kt (solid, not gf) Skyline set, near mint, standard size, no engraving, the FP cap is very tight as is common with these pens, all-metal 14kt pen and pencil, $325......2. Eversharp Envoy all gf set in box, lever filler, strong EX condition but small wear spots on nib end of barrel where cap slips on, not a common set, $50......3. Parker T-1 ballpoint, mint and perfect except that a close examination reveals that the cap has slightly rubbed the barrel from being clicked a few times, the finest example I have ever seen of one of these pens, $400....4. Parker T-1 rollerball/felt-tip, cupped cap end, red-jewelled barrel end, white dummy marker is still in pen, mint and absolutely perfect in every way, they don't get better than this one, $450........5. Parker T-1 FP, this one is used and very nice, ring mark on barrel from cap being posted, no dents or significant scratches, red jewels on both ends, I found this one seperate from the mint pair, $350.......NOTE: The BP and Rollerball/Felt tip were found together and are somewhat darker and less shiny than the FP. I know what T-1's are and these all 3 are T-1's. First email, $3.20 plus actual cost of insurance (if desired, no questions asked money-back satisfaction guarantee-same condition, smsmith007@aol.com, Thanks, Steve

Diplomat pressurized refills
	10/1/2000: Peter Hay
	Would anyone know where to obtain Diplomat ptressurized refills which are no longer carried by Staples. The pressurized refills come from Germany and I suspect they are made by Schmidt.

Snorkel Pricing
	10/1/2000: Kyle Cavanaugh
	Hello to fellow pen lovers out there! I have a MINT condition Sheaffer Snorkel fountain pen with a 14 k gold medium nib. It is blue and has a sterling silver cap. I'm not really interested in selling it, but I would like to know what kind of price I could sell it for. Thanks. Kyle Cavanaugh

Ball Point Pens
	10/1/2000: Larry Shelton
	Claire hopefully someone on this list will be able to identify the mfg for you. If not Henry Gostony and Stuart Schneider wrote the fabulous book "The Incredible Ball Point Pen" " A Comprehensive History and Price Guide." Henry Gostony was former president of the United States Ball Point Collectors Club. No guarantees since your's sounds like a pen more modern then vintage but he may be able point you in the right direction. His email address is nanco@home.com

trying to identify ball pen
	10/1/2000: Claire M Jordan
	About six months ago I bought a pair of ball-pens of an unusual design from an art-materials shop (in Harpenden, England) which no longer exists. I found them very attractive and had expected to go on using them (one for black and one for blue ink) for the rest of my life, but unfortunately one of them has now lost a screw-on piece from off the end. I am trying to find out who manufactured these pens so I can contact the company and get a spare part, or if necessary a whole new pen. I'd be grateful if anybody on this list could either tell me who made these pens or direct me to a forum for ball pens. (I know that there is an alt.collecting.pens-pencils newsgroup but I can't get it through my ISP.) The pens consist of a transparent, coloured plastic barrel finished at the ink-end with a silvered-plastic piece shaped a bit like a cartoon pirate's wooden leg (long narrow straight bit which suddenly widens into a cup-shape where it screws onto the barrel), and at the other end with another silvered-plastic piece shaped a bit like a chess pawn (it is this bit which has gone missing). A thick white-metal wire is wrapped 3� times round the barrel and then bent downwards towards the ink-end to form a wavy clip, terminating in a ball. There is no maker's mark on the pens, but they fit a Parker DIN 16 554/2 Ball Pen Refill. I have placed a scan of the surviving intact pen up on my website. I know the bulletin board doesn't like to have live hot-links in it, so I am going to give the URL here broken up with spaces, so anybody who wants to look can reconstruct it. It's at http: // members . madasafish . com / ~cj_whitehound / pen.htm Thanks.

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