November 2001
| Waterman Hemisphere Writing Sets
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11/30/2001: Sam - Pendemonium |
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We have a limited supply of Waterman Hemisphere Writing Sets available. The set includes a Hemisphere FP in all stainless steel (flighter-esque!) with medium steel point, a bottle of Waterman black ink, 5 different color cartridges, convertor, blotters and a short booklet on writing with a FP. Everything is wrapped in an elegant gift box in the traditional royal blue and gold Waterman colors.
The pen by itself retails for $45, the contents bring the retail up to $52. We have the writing sets available for $35 while they last. Shipping via priority mail is $4 in the US. Actual costs elsewhere.
Nice writing pens that make a great introductory gift of writing for someone on your list! Or perhaps a gift for yourself :-)
There is a scan of the Waterman Hemisphere Writing set on the Waterman page on our website: http://www.pendemonium.com/pens_waterman.htm
No quibble satisfaction guarantee! Checks and credit cards welcomed. Please email to reserve: sam@pendemonium.com
Good Collecting! Sam
Join us at the Michigan Pen Show Dec 8-9
http://www.pendemonium.com
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| Pen books for sale
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11/30/2001: Bryan |
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I have unopened, unread, perfect copies -- still sealed in shrink wrap -- of the two pen books by Andreas Lambrou. The big one, "Fountain Pens of the World," retails for $190; the smaller one, "Fountain Pens: Vintage and Modern," for $70. I will pack carefully and pay for shipping. Make an offer. |
| Sheaffer Targa Identification
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11/30/2001: Andreas Lambrou |
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Dear Bill,
You are certainly the ideal person for a Targa web site. And it would not hurt to have a healthy competition with the 75 web site hosted by another tremendous pen lover and collector.
If you do have time after the LA show, we could make available what you need from our collection, either at the show, or at our office. The address below gives you a sampler, but not all the pens are as rare as these....
http://hometown.aol.com/claspeninc/Special_Targa.html
Best regards,
Andy
Tel: 1-323-658-7367
====== THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED AT PENS@ZOSS.COM ======
Well.... We do have plans to add some more of the Targas to the Collections
Gallery Sheaffer section, but we're still trying to get a group assembled
for photography. Maybe sometime after the LA show, or Chicago. I know we've
got three or four to add right now. (thanks to some great deals from
arcomax!)
The next Collection set to go up will be the Parker Vacumatic, we're
starting with a set of the Maximas, curteousy of a certain Doc, to follow
will be a TON of vacs, all sizes, shapes, models, and vintages. I'm cringing
already, just thinking about the photography!
We've also got a vintage MB Collection in the works, this is proving to be a
bit tougher, but should be nice when we get wrapped up. Of course, we're
adding a few pens here and there to the Collections already up, and there
WILL be a Waterman's Collection, too, we're working on it!
Bill |
| Waterman Lever Box
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11/30/2001: Victor |
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Roger and I do have some stock and we can install Waterman lever boxes. These boxes come from parts pens The standard 52 nickel boxes cost $25. The gold, sterling, and short boxes cost more. The damage to these boxes come in several ways. Most folks remove the box by prying up one or more of the box tabs/wings and they stress the metal at the fold. The tab can break at this point. If the tab remains intact, it will almost certainly break (80-90%)on installation. Even if the box is successfully installed, anytime there is significant pressure on the tab, it will break. The other weak point in the Waterman box is the lever pin hole. The structural brace for the box is below and to the back of this hole. This is a very rigid box. When there is pressure on lever pin (hardened sac), the point of structural weakness is the material above this hole. We have developed a procedure for the removal and installation of these boxes and the repair cost is $40. You can check out all our repair/restoration costs on our website www.penopoly.com. My own preference is to start with a box in a parts barrel and go from there. Many times our customers send a box with a pen for repairs. This requires several steps to ensure that the tab will fold back in place without breaking. I hope this information is useful. |
| Parker box
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11/30/2001: Tommy |
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I have had for many years an old
green George Parker Pen box with
a paper inside showing instructions
and pictures and prices of Lucky curve pens. Also in box is a black
wooden and gold pen with two gold
tips enscribed Leroy W Fairchild.
Can any one tell me something about
these items? The pens have dates of
1890s on them. |
| WTB: Waterman Lever/Box
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11/29/2001: ChrisW |
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Trying to restore an old Red Ripple 52, and was wondering if anyone can tell me where I might find a lever/box assy to fit.
chris |
| Parker MOSAIC writing instruments
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11/29/2001: Andreas Lambrou |
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Dear Colleagues,
Very limited number available, but writing modes include the difficult to find now ball pens and the pencil which apparently has not been available in the USA.
An ideal opportunity to acquire the complete quartet. First come, first serve.
E-mail back channel for availability and prices. Images available.
Those who would like direct quick response, please call me on: 1-323-658-7367.
Best wishes,
Andy Lambrou
Los Angeles Tel No. 1-323-658-7367
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| Omas Evolution
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11/29/2001: David Leibowitz |
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Well, interesting developments regarding Omas: Jerry Trafford has been waiting for a replacement for a leaking Omas desk pen of mine for about 4 months, so today I called LVMH to try and find out what might be going on. Apparently Jerry is not longer going to do the repairs for Omas. They are moving the repairs into the LVMH service facility. For the next couple of months they will be sending the pens back to Italy, after that they will have technicians in the USA. So, for anyone who needs an Omas repair, the best thing to do is probably to call the LVMH Watch and Jewelry Repair number, which is: 973-467-1890. They should be able to advise how to return a pen for repairs. I am sad to learn that Jerry will no longer be involved with them, because he was capable of doing fantasticly good work. But, I wish LVMH well, and hope that the new facility can provide service commensurate with the general Omas reputation. |
| Sheaffer's Web Site
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11/28/2001: Andy Lambrou |
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Dear Colleagues,
Sheaffer have a 'Collectors' Corner' on their official web site, but I guess most of you know that already!
For those who don't, here is their address:
http://sheaffer.com/cgi-bin/forum.pl?Forum=forum&Detail=N00402
Isn't cool that Sheaffer appreciates those who collect their pens!
Regards,
Andy
Los Angeles Tel No. 1-323-658-7367 |
| namiki pens
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11/28/2001: william |
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I have used a namiki panda often with
no apparent harm and it is an
excellent writer and there black ink
is very nice
Also, for the not faint of heart i
have an extra Conklin(vintage)solid
gold pen and pencil in the box that
i would like to trade for a parker
47, something comparable, a nice
patek phillipe, cash, or.........?
the last i was aware there were my
two and only a couple of others known. Pay
attention i have thirty years of
stuff to part with. David wrangled a couple
unusual things from me at shows in
years past. |
| Conway Stewart Dandy Fountain Pens
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11/28/2001: Terry |
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Greetings:
We have the new Conway Stewart Dandy Fountain Pens in stock at the best prices you can find!
Limited number available, so catch them quick at www.avalonpens.com before they get away!
New items being added daily -- the vintage pen section is being expanded this week too, so check back often.
Terry @ Avalon Pens |
| Novelli Pen Auction for New York Fire Station
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11/28/2001: Charlie Harles |
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Marco Parascenzo , owner of Novelli Pen and Pipe Shop in Rome is making a very nice gesture of auctioning #11 of the 50th Anniversary "Augusta" fountain pen and the Castello smoking pipe “Augusta” number 11 and donate all of the proceeds to the families of firefighters at Engine Co. #2 in New York City. Marco has a page at Novelli's web site about the auction.
http://www.novelli.it/rescue2.htm
I had a chance to see a prototype of the pen at the Washington, DC Pen Show last summer and put my order in immediately. Marco has already reserved #4 for me. The pen is by Visconti and uses the celluloid (!) from the Visconti Titanic LE (or that's what it certainly looks like). It is a nice large pen and is faceted. This is certainly a special pen to honor an Italian dealer who I had the pleasure of buying many pens from over several years. Augusta Parascenzo passed away two years ago and his son is honoring him with this pen. You can see the pen at the following web site
http://www.novelli.it/prog1.htm
This is a nice chance to get a very special pen and support an important cause at the same time.
Charlie Harles |
| Quarterly Illustrated Vintage Pen Catalog #21
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11/27/2001: Gary & Myrna Lehrer |
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sue #21 of the Quarterly Illustrated Vintage Pen Catalog is now available for your viewing at www.gopens.com. Paid subscribers have had password access for the past two weeks. The password has now been removed and there are still over 100 fully restored and guaranteed vintage pens available for your collection and use. Be sure to also see what's still available from Catalogs 20 and 19 (10% off sale). Go to www.gopens.com, or click the hyperlink banner above.
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| Special - Rotring & Waterman
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11/27/2001: Esther |
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We have Rotring 600 Series fountain pens, ball-point pens, pencils, and Trio's on special. Also on special are Waterman Laureat roller-ball and ball-point pens. All of the above make great gifts. Thank you. |
| #1 Voted LE Pens for Daily Use
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11/27/2001: Andreas Lambrou |
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Dear Colleagues,
We are making a holiday offer of our Sheaffer Legacy CP4 Civil War Pens -- Washington & Richmond to the members of this board.
We have just received a few more of the Legacy I Stub nibs (CP4 is based on Legacy I) from Sheaffer Ft. Madison. They represent the complete stock of Sheaffer and we are advised there are no plans to produce more Stub nibs.
We are therefore making available just EIGHT CP4 pens with Stub nibs to this board on a 'first come, first serve' basis. And as always, I will tune the nibs to your individual writing.
Please call or e-mail back channel for details of this great offer and images of the American Civil War Pens -- Washington & Richmond.
Thank you for your continuous support.
Andreas Lambrou
Los Angeles Tel No. 1-323-658-7367
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| WTB Parker Maxima Blue Pencil
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11/27/2001: david isaacson |
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Hello. Wish to purchase Parker Vacumatic Pencil in Azure Blue. Senior Maxima size with fat Maxima capband, Good imprint (1940-41), excellent or better working condition, minimal to no brass. Offer $125. Please email if have one available. Thanks. David |
| WANT TO BUY
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11/27/2001: Allen Gross |
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I'm interested in buying Montblanc Agatha Christie pencils at a fair price. Please email or call me at 215-654-1555. |
| SALES - parafernalia design ballpoints
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11/27/2001: Susanna |
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Parafernalia Admiral is a laquered steel ballpoint pen, italian design, made by Parafernalia. We offer the last two colors (cobalt blue and deep green) at a discounted price, only until stock availability, in Giardino Italiano's pensite: WWW.PENS.IT The pen comes in its original wood and cardboard box.------WWW.PENS.IT---- |
| Pelikan 400
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11/26/2001: James Cummings |
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My dear Pelikan 400 has a cracked piston knob. Does anyone know Pelikan's new US distributor address, or have a suggestion about how to get it repaired?
thanks |
| Mont Blanc Noblese Ballpoint
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11/26/2001: alan |
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Looking for a Mont Blanc Noblese Ballpoint in Green Marble. |
| special on new old stock Duofold Junior barrels
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11/26/2001: www.vintagepens.com |
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Do you have a Duofold Junior with a damaged or badly personalized barrel? We have a couple of dozen unused new old stock barrels available -- see our website catalog under Specials. Hope this will be of some use to you all. |
| RE: Michigan Pen Show on Dec 6-9 at the Southfield Westin Hotel
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11/26/2001: Lih-Tah Wong |
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Greetings Penlovers.
My last post forgot to mention a number of important items about our show that is coming up in less than 2 weeks time.
First, The Conklin Pen Company is our show's sponsor. They have generously donated 2 beautiful Nozac Word Gauge Limited Edition FPs (out of 898 pieces worldwide), one in marble blue/tortoise and the other in marble blue/red. Each will be raffled off as a door prize on the two days the show will be opened to the public.
Second, since our club is a non-profit organization, our show has a no-fee auction going on Saturday afternoon starting at 4:30pm. Many of the items sold will serve a good cause -- The Children's Miracle Network. The Michigan Pen Club will also be donating a portion of the net proceeds of our show to this worthy charitable organization.
For more information, please visit www.michpens.com.
Regards,
Lih-Tah
www.Parker75.com
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| Rollerball vs. ballpoint
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11/26/2001: Garrett Poshusta |
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I am an unexperienced pen buyer and am looking for a pen to give as a Christmas gift. I am having a hard time deciding whether to buy a rollerball or a ballpoint because I don't know the differences nor the pros/cons of each. If anyone would be willing to offer some suggestions or information I would greatly appreciate it. |
| Re: Parker Sonnet
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11/26/2001: Jim Mamoulides |
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Dear Jason, If by twisting that little gray top of that "cartridge" you see a plunger extend from beneath it, much like the plunger in a syringe, then you have yourself a converter! Cheers,
Jim Mamoulides |
| Waterman retractable point music pen
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11/26/2001: Tim |
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Looking to trakc down a Waterman 3 tine nib, retractable music writing pen
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| Pen Fixin' Stuff on Sale
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11/26/2001: Sam - Pendemonium |
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Pen Fixin' Stuff on Sale thru Wednesday, November 28th
Orange Shellac reg. $5 Sale $4
Simichrome reg. $7 Sale $6
Silicone Grease reg. $3 Sale $2
Pen Picks reg. $3 Sale $2.50
Maginifying Loupe, 10X, double lens reg. $10 Sale $7.50
Grit Paper (1 ea 1000, 1500, 2000) reg. $4 Sale $3
Blotting Paper(pk of 4 sheets) reg. $1 Sale 2 for $1
Zip Seal Pen Bags(pk 100) reg. $7 Sale $6
Arkansas Stone reg. $5 Sale $4
Amodex 1oz reg. $8 Sale $7
Sac Spreader reg. $5 Sale $4
Pen Sacs (see web site for sizes avail) reg. $2 Sale $1.50
FREE shipping on orders over $25 in the US & Canada. We'll work out a
shipping break for those of you outside the US & Canada. Email to
reserve or order directly via our secure online order form on the
website. Please mention Pen Repairs Special. Checks and credit cards
welcomed.
Good Collecting - Sam
sam@pendemonium.com
http://www.pendemonium.com |
| Parker Sonnet
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11/26/2001: Jason Horvath |
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I just purchased a used Parker
Sonnet Foutain Pen that came with
a cartridge in it. It is a clear
plastic cartridge with a silver band
and a grey top to it. Is this a
refillable converter, or just a
fancy cartridge. If so how do I go
about refilling the converter/
cartridge? Any help is appreciated.
Thank You, Jason |
| Namiki Pens
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11/25/2001: William |
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Does anyone have any experience with Namiki pens scratching? I was thinking of purchasing one of those cobra pens and am slightly skeptical to carry it around for fear of scratching it and/or the paint rubbing off. Does any collector know how durable these things are? |
| ZOOM 707
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11/25/2001: Esther |
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We have two pens for sale. These are "Tombow" ZOOM 707 ball-point pens in black and red. The pens are very slim and unusual, with a soft grip and red ball at the end of the pocket clip. They make perfect gifts for both collector and user. Pictures are available upon request. Both pens are mint in the original box, where they seem to be floating in the air. $18 each plus shipping. Thank you. |
| Congrats Jim
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11/25/2001: Don Lavin |
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I am happy to hear that the silver snake turned out to be in exc. condition and authentic Jim. Congrats. The silver snake is definitely more scarce than the gold filled models and my friends and I believed it should sell for more - given a different venue such as a live auction with the major collectors in attendance as at a major pen show auction. I have said on too many occasions that you never regret the purchases you made but you always regret the purchases that you did not make! It is a very uncomfortable experience to find a fine pen only to think it is a bit too expensive, walk away, change your mind, walk back and find that the pen was just sold :( And this has happened to all of us at one or more times than others. As for the silver Waterman Snake there is either one on the market, coming on the market or recently sold. It appears that a certain collector who paid a vast amount for the pen has to de-accession it from the collection. The agent is liquidating the pen and others as we speak. But the cost will be a substantial multiple of the Parker Snake. Take care. Don |
| home snake home
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11/25/2001: david i |
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hi jim.
glad to hear pen turned out to be a nice item. Quite a ride getting there (VBG). Best. David |
| parker snake on ebay
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11/25/2001: jim lawson |
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well, it arrived, and all the eyes
are intanct and the dings in the cap
end are minimal. I hope i am in as
good a shape when I am its age. It is
everything Shanin said. Was it a
value, well i have some stocks i would
like to sell for what i paid for them.
It is subjective. Oh Don, when I can
buy those waterman snakes for eleven
grand. Couldn't resist.The real point
is when you have opportunity, desire, and
means you usually regret having not acted.
I always remember the Testori cello
i did not buy for 4500. And yes, I think th
waterman taper cap snake is a far
prettier pen, but it was not offered. |
| Pens FS
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11/25/2001: Daniele |
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New addition on my web page: http://digilander.iol.it/penandpencil/
Thanks!
Daniele |
| looking box MB Imperial Dragon
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11/25/2001: Lauw Day Kwang |
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hello im looking box for MB Imperial Dragon 888. please email me thank you. |
| Lamy Safari vs. Aluminum version
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11/24/2001: Kevin |
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I am going to buy my first fountain pen and have narrowed it down the the Lamy Safari but I don't know weather to get the plastic one or the aluminum one. DOes anyone know the difference or have a suggestion? Thanks. |
| Pen Fancier article
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11/24/2001: Sterling |
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Greetings to all...
I am looking for an article on the Sterling Pen Co. published in the Pen Fancier's Mag. Vol 16, No. 2, March/April 1993. If anyone has the mag. I am willing to purchase it, or if you don't want to part with it, I will pay for a copy of the article. Thanks so much....Sterling |
| Michigan Pen Show on Dec 6-9 at the Southfield Westin Hotel
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11/24/2001: Lih-Tah Wong |
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Greetings Penlovers.
If you happen to live in or around Michigan, I invite you to come to our club-organized pen show. The 12th Annual Michigan Pen & Watch show will be held in two week's time at the Southfield Westin Hotel. It is being promoted as a gift-buying show, so do bring the family, spouse, significant other, or friend and suggest they find a nice gift for you at the show. ;-)
Many recognizable names in the pen world will be present. Reputable dealers such as Sam and Frank Fiorella of Pendemonium, Jimmy Dolive of Total Office Products, Bill Weakley of Power Pens, Lou and Howard Kaplan of Great Parker, Dan Reppert, Susan Wirth the self-proclaimed Queen of Inks, and many others.
Leave your keyboard, monitors and Internet pen shopping for one or two days, and come examine the pens in your own two hands. Chat with other collectors to learn and share information.
For our first time, the show is open to the public on both Saturday and Sunday. General admission is $6, two-day admission is $8. Weekend trader with early admission is $35.
For more information, please visit www.michpens.com.
Regards,
Lih-Tah
www.Parker75.com
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| Omas Blue Celluloid
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11/24/2001: JiaXian |
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Hi,
I have one Omas Mezzo Celluloid Royale left at the great price of $455 shipped, retail is $995. It has a Royale blue celluloid barrel with a polished sterling cap. It's the last piece hence the great price. Email me if you have any questions or require pictures.
Regards,
JiaXian |
| Parker 45 Cap
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11/23/2001: rbruce |
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Parker 45 cap bought in summer to replace lost one, for $10 & $4 s&h. I found the original, so am
selling the better one for $8 + $4, or best offer. A few scuffs and scratches, but Parker's finish doesn't
show them unless you scrutinize the item close up. I used both caps publicly on my standard travel pen.
Silvery cap with gold arrow clip and top. |
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11/23/2001: betty |
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RAClifford...thank you so much for your offer. I'll get back to you when I get some things cleared up here at home. Betty |
| Where to see the 1946 Parker "51" Beechcraft
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11/23/2001: Len Provisor |
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Sorry I forgot to mention, this Parker model can be seen on my website WWW.INKBLOTTERS.COM. You can view original vintage photos and the model images of both this model and last year's 1928 Parker "Duofold" Fairchild FC2W2 model.
BTW, those great photos of the model were taken by Dean Tweeddale, and the vintage "colorizations" were done by Donal Higgins of PENTRACE.COM and the amazing Richard Binder located at VIRTUALCRATE.COM/PENS
The Parker "51" aircraft model is priced at $250. plus $10. UPS in USA. Safely shipping anywhere in the world and unconditionally guaranteed. Visa MC PayPal and personal checks drawn on U.S. banks. |
| 1946 Parker "51" Beechcraft- a few still left.
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11/23/2001: Len Provisor |
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If you have been having an inkling for that perfect gift for yourself or special friend, why not a soon to be very rare 1946 Parker "51" Beechcraft D18S aircraft model.
This is a museum quality reproduction in exact detail of Kenneth Parker's aircraft that inspired him for the design of the first Parker "51" Flighter pen.
Eighteen inch wingspan, solid wood construction and completely hand painted. Each base is personally signed by Geoffrey S. Parker, great grandson of George S. Parker.
I have a very limited inventory left of the first 100 models that are Limited Edition numbered, after these are gone, any other orders up to the cut-off order date of 12/31/01 will take 3-4 months to produce. Remember, orders for this model is being taken only up to the end of December. Special gift enclosure with this model. A 1948 photo of Mr and Mrs Kenneth Parker posing in front of this aircraft will be included with any orders, and this photo will also be personally signed by Geoffrey S. Parker. Next year another great model from the Parker fleet will be introduced.
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| Thanksgiving Weekend Special
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11/23/2001: Maryann at PenstopOnline |
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Greetings: In celebration of the start of the holiday season we have some super specials to offer.
Sheaffer Intrigue - blue on blue Model 612 medium and broad nibs
Sheaffer Intrigue - mottled blue - satin chrome cap - Model 613 - fine only. The list price on each is $140. Penlovers Price is $90.00. Mention Penlovers and shipping will be included. These are all new in their original packaging with all papers and warranty. Click on our link above to see our "Closeouts" and "What's New" pages. |
| Fountain Pen anatomy posters, Vacumatic now available!
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11/23/2001: Richard |
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I have created a Vacumatic anatomy poster to match my lever-filler poster. The price for either poster, in any quantity, is $10.00 per copy (plus shipping). But you can buy a set of the two posters for $18.00 and save yourself $2.00. Please visit Northern Woods Desk Accessories at http://www.virtualcrate.com/NorthernWoods/ |
| J.H. Bullard pen patent
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11/23/2001: G. Scott Jamieson |
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I am trying to ascertain if a patent by James H. Bullard dated October 18, 1904 # 772554 was ever sold to any of the mainstream pen makers of the day. Mr Bullard held many patents (no others are pen related)many of which he sold or assigned to other companies for profit but few of his inventions actually carry his name. I hope someone can shed light on my query.
Best regards
Scott |
| Carving the turkey
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11/23/2001: Tsai Kwan |
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This is only an observation & is not a criticism.I am a professional chef & I have always understood that to partially cook poultry & then cook again can develop very dangerous salmonella bacteria not to mention the meat would be dried out. |
| Giardino Italiano's catalog
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11/23/2001: Susanna |
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We've just finishing the first issue of our catalog of italian pens, leather goods and watches. To receive it, please fill in the request form, at WWW.PENS.IT |
| While on the subject of 51's
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11/22/2001: Mark P. Anderle |
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I have a 51 that has a puzzling cap. It is a vacumatic filler, date code 5 with a steel cap, raised ribbed band, and BD clip - but not in gold but what appears to be sterling. Is this just another of the many variations? |
| Parker "51" on Pen Collection
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11/22/2001: Len Provisor |
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Wow! What a treat to see these delicious "51"s. Thank you Dean and Bill for this great addition to Penlovers. One note, the "51" shown with the very heavy 14K carvings is Mexican made, c1946, commonly made in Mexico by jewelers, and not by Parker Pen. The one shown I happened to find a few yearas ago. When I saw the set with those giant apparently 2 carat diamonds sparkling on the top of the pen and pencil I thought I just won the lottery. I quickly realized they were genuine sparkling Mexican g-l-a-s-s. Thank you Dean and Bill for this stunning photography holiday gift. |
| Carving the turkey
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11/22/2001: Len Provisor |
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Tsai, the traditional Norman Rockwell pictures of the family around the table with the head of the house about to carve the bird on the table is very popular. Some people carve the turkey before as a convenience, it is cooked again for a short while with everything neatly sliced and presented on a large platter for eveyrone to dive into. Cold turkey is the next week's sandwiches, or realizing you have just used your last drop of your favorite discontinued ink.
BTW, at each place setting for my family I place a new ballpoint pen, and after dinner we pass around the Family Journal and we all write about some favorite family memories for the year. Great idea for building a family treasure. |
| This has been a very special year
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11/22/2001: Tsai Kwan |
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Please accept this as a curious question only, no offence internded, but when you say :"Just finished carving the turkey for tomorrow's big family dinner" does this mean that you eat cold turkey for Thanksgiving in America or is this just a peculiarity for this individual ? |
| Happy Thanksgiving & more!
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11/22/2001: Dean Tweeddale |
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Turkey is in the oven, house is halfway clean, relatives are coming soon; guess I’ve got time to clean some pens. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!! And just in case you haven’t discovered it yet, we’ve uploaded a Parker 51 collection to our Pen Collections with over 70 images. Special thanks to Len Provisor, Roger Cromwell, and others that let us photograph their pens and helped with the descriptions. Hope that you enjoy, feedback is always welcome, and again hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving! Dean |
| PenBookmarks Site Update
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11/22/2001: Jim Mamoulides |
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Greetings!
Have made some updates to the links site as follows:
1. Pen Makers - 97 Links, 5 NEW
2. Pen Dealers - New and Vintage - 174 Links, 12 NEW
3. Pen Repair - 20 Links, 2 NEW
4. Pen Information and Collector Links - 41 Links, 2 NEW
5. Pen Discussions - 12 Links, 0 NEW
6. Ink - 6 Links, 0 NEW
The direct link to the site is:
http://www.penhero.com/PenBookmarks.htm
Please feel free to direct link to it. Nearly 4,000 hits in 8 weeks!
Please keep sending your updates. Cheers, Jim Mamoulides
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| This has been a very special year.
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11/22/2001: Len Provisor |
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Just finished carving the turkey for tomorrow's big family dinner, even my cat is happy with her scraps. The table is all set, and yes, I have ballpoint pens set at each place setting so everyone can write into our Family Journal we pass around at our get togethors. The year is almost over, seems to have gone by in a blink, or am I just getting older? My big six-"uh-oh" is next year. It has been a profound year, one none of us will ever forget. I am greatful for my many friends and my family, and I think many of us also have major shifts in priorities. I wish everyone a happy and peaceful Holidays, and remember all of those that are here in spirit. |
| Old Balance Takedown
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11/21/2001: Tim |
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Just curious, I recently bought an old Sgeaffer Balance, Lifetime Pen. How doesit come apart to replace the sac? Can it be opend up as easy as, say an Esterbrook?
Thanks in Advance |
| Pen Pricing
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11/21/2001: Ray |
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I recieved a Parker Stainless Steel ballpoint pen in 1972 as a gift. I still have it now and I am trying to find out what it is worth. The pen has a gold filled or plated clip as well as the screw-on cap that holds the clip on. The cap(top half of pen) being depressed actuates the pen. I can't seem to find what model it is on the web. I hope someone can here can help.
Thank you,
Ray |
| New look for Avalon Website
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11/21/2001: Terry |
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We have a dynamic and exciting new look for our website -- expanded new pen product line and restored vintage pens; new pen and vintage pen specials; fountain pen collector books; and fine jewelry line. Gorgeous and easy to navigate -- best prices available!!
Check us out at www.avalonpens.com!
Terry |
| Pelikan repair
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11/21/2001: Leif Erichson |
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Is there a book or web site covering Pelikan repair jobs? And where can I buy spares in Europe?
TIA / Leif
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| New PENNA available
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11/21/2001: Sam - Pendemonium |
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Happy Thanksgiving to All!
This morning we received the latest issue of PENNA, Oct-Nov 2001. Those of you who have a standing order, your magazines are going out today. Still have a few remaining of this great bi-lingual Italian/English pen magazine with a good mix of modern and vintage pen articles.
Price is $12, S&H via first class is $2, S&H via priority is $4 in the US. We're doing a late mail run today since no shipping on Turkey Day, so if we receive your order before 2PM CST today, we'll get it in today's mail, otherwise it will go out on Friday.
Good Collecting! Sam
http://www.pendemonium.com
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| HAPPY THANKSGIVING
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11/20/2001: Maryann at PenstopOnline |
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Dear Friends:
We wish you and yours a safe, healthy and happy Thanksgiving.
Maryann and Steve
PenstopOnline
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| cheapie pricing
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11/20/2001: einv |
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some 10 esties, in near mint looking condition, but that
required pressure bars and sacs have
resulted from my ebay lower end purchases
by the lot. 4 of these pens have very
desirable nibs, like oblique stub, medium
and fine stub and one flexible. i got them
at approx. 8 bucks each; from online
dealers of vintage pens, i know that
each such pen sells between 25 and 40
bucks. rare nibs of the sort i described
alone cost twice what i paid for each pen!
if i wanted to sell my esties, all i
would need to do is list them with pics,
and they'd be gone in no time. so i
think that it is much easier to recoup
investment on cheap pens that you fixed
yourself, than one dealer purchase. i'm
pretty sure the same dealer would not
pay more than 75 percent if you sold
it back after minimum use. unless the pen
is super rare, i do not think it would
bring anywhere near the price you bought
it for. |
| thank you!
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11/20/2001: betty rippon |
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Thank you so much for the e-mails from people who are tryning to help me with my desk pens. I really appreciate your concern. Thanks again, Betty Rippon |
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11/20/2001: Geordie |
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the cheapies may not be the best investment. its a lot less work to sell one $200 pen than 20 $10 pens no matter where you are selling. that is why dealers don't want to buy or sell cheapies - and why dealers put the highest markup on the cheapest pieces. |
| Caution on e-buying Oversize Vacumatics
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11/20/2001: david i |
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Sometimes parker vacs crop up on ebay marked as Oversize model
The early Oversize looks of course much like the Standard or the Slender- same style clip and capbands. Size is everything for telling these apart. Once very familiar with the model one can often get a pretty good sense of which model is even without knowing measurements- based on the relative size of the clip to the pen or the girth of the pen or shape/contour of the nib, etc etc. This takes practice.
Occasionally one sees Oversize vacs on sale on ebay without measurements given and looking suspiciously thin for an OS model, or with cap seeming short relative to the fixed clip length.
The OS vac is a great model, more scarce than Maximas though not really reflecting that in price (the Maxima has a more dramatic appearance).
I would suggest if folks see multiple OS vacs for sale on ebay, that they email the seller to get exact specs (length closed to nearest 1/16ths inch and width across cap opening, outer edge to outer edge, before assuming a pen is an OS just because a seller (including me of course) says so.
best
david isaacson
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| Carter Ink Bott. WANTED
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11/20/2001: Rene |
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Dear Friends,
I am looking for a Carter Ink Bottle,Dip-Well Assembly
Reservoir Pen,with Tiny Automatic Patent Pump,etc.
Any offer or comments,Welcome!
Best Regards,
Rene Alvarez |
| Two other ways of looking at it
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11/20/2001: Jan Koenig |
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1) A collector who buys a $200 pen from a dealer may , at a later date, decide that he or she would like to sell it. What happens then? Because the collector isn't a dealer, chances are that he/she will only be able to sell it for 1/2 to 3/4 of retail. That makes it a dicey proposition to buy the pen to begin with. On the other hand, the $10 and $20 pen is usually bought in the wild, and the chances of recovering your investment are probably better if/when you decide to sell it.
2) For most of us, a $200 expenditure shows up on the spousal radar screen. A $10 or $20 payment may not. Come on - admit it! Some of ya'll can relate to this. |
| Pens FS (incl Bexley Zoss SE)
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11/20/2001: Skip Williams |
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Sorry, I screwed up the URL --- http://www.skipwilliams.com/family/pens-forsale-11-01/index.htm ---Skip--- |
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Its occasionally the ones selling expensive pens that tell the rest of us to buy expensive pens or we won't be happy. Some of us just like to have pens and are happier with 20 ten dollar pens than one $200 pen. The ten dollar pens can write as well or better if chosen or restored properly. I seldon buy a pen over $25 and I can't see that ever changing. No complaint against those with expensive tastes. Just don't try to convert us and we won't try to convert you. I think I get more for my money. If you feel different thats OK too. When the suggestions to buy "high end" comes from those selling high end there may be some conflict of interests. |
| wise buying?
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11/20/2001: Ron |
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I will agree with David that my tastes have evolved over the years as I've collected. It is true that most of what I have been selling on ebay for the last year have been the "lower end" of fountain pens. Mostly duplicates though. Part of collecting is learning, discovering preferences, finding what fits your personal tastes, what fits your hand. Having said that, I still won't resist an Esterbrook when it's priced right. I still buy the Parker Parketts, an occasional snorkle, and a 51 with a lustraloy cap. Sometimes I buy a pen just to have a "starter" to give away to someone who expresses an interest in pens. Always one of decent quality, but one that doesn't cost too much. For me the larger and perhaps more enjoyable part of collecting is not the acquisition of pens, it's the restoration. To take a beat up pen and then apply your learned skills, returning it to a beautiful useful condition is a real joy. For however long it takes the rest of the world is blocked out.....and I always learn something. I've been known to turn a new jewel for an Esterbrook, or to make a new pressure bar for a Parker Duofold just to see if I could do it. As far as I'm concerned, it's not always the value that counts! |
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11/20/2001: Diane Luther |
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Once again this boils down to diff'rent strokes etc since I find the notion of inverted snobbery from the less wealthy over "expensive" items equally at fault as the usual elitism found with wealthy people acquiring the same. Let's be realistic, if you spent a large part of your time creating wealth for yourself & maybe others, then who's to say if a "wad of cash" cannot give the spender a similarly pleasurable experience as the less well off. Invariably those griping about the inability of wealthy people to vicariously enjoy simple feelings through their buying power are usually those who resent other peoples success or are just too mean, and you can be sure that with vicissitude would come a whole new set of rationales. Live & let live. |
| Pens FS (incl Bexley Zoss SE)
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11/19/2001: Skip Williams |
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I've got a page with several Pens that I need to prune off my collection.
Not pictured:
Bexley Zoss Limited Edition, pen #71/100. Great writing, big original Stub nib, Solid 10k clip. Inked, but mint shape with box. $295
Look here for an article: http://www.PenLovers.net/stylophiles/0oct2000/oct_2000_zossle.htm
Highlights of the pictured pens:
Custom Duofold Senior Deluxe Set Replica in a Cracked Ice Pattern, Conklin Endura, Conklin Crescent 40, ,Parker 61 Cirrus Set, Parker 61 Stratus, Parker 75 Flighter, ,Parker 180 Flighter, Omas Paragon, Two Swisher Customs
Look here: skipwilliams\family\pens-forsale-11-01\index.htm
Skip
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| tastes (contd.)
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11/19/2001: einv |
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from Allan's post below, i realized that
i primarily define myself as a user and
not a collector. hence the desire to possess
a large sample of not so perfect pens
with wide variety of writing personalities to
suit the purpose at hand. for this purpose, i
find ebay to be most ideal. for higher
quality user level pens, i usually go to penbid.
they have some less mediocre stuff there. |
| Quality or Quantity
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11/19/2001: Allan |
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I find,as a collector, that I will usually buy an unminty pen that fits a slot in my collection.Then if I can find a better example, I can upgrade to the better pen. |
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11/19/2001: einv |
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i must confess that i enjoy a cheaply bought
and self-fixed pen more than a 'gourmet'
perfect purchase, which i neither feel
'close' to, (since any fellow with a wad
of cash could have bought it), nor feel
happy using (what if the 'investment' gets damaged!). whereas
only i could have experienced the
thrills and frustration in getting a
busted up pen right. to this day, i cherish
my cheapo ebay vintages, and hope that
some day, i shall recoup my wad of cash on
the dealer purchases. it is rather like
the difference between hot-rodding your own
car over several months of sweet labor, as
opposed to getting a beemer that any
well heeled and cashed person could also
buy. as the poster said below, some of
us are always going to be the fast food junkies
with regard to pens, leaving the discomfort
of fine dining to those with such proclivities.
(my brother is just my opposite, he has
only a dozen fine clothes, while i have
a hundred lousy T-shirts. but i love to wear
my clothes, and he loves to be seen in
those clothes.) |
| WTB: Waterman 55 Red Ripple Cap
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11/19/2001: ChrisW |
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Can anyone please help?? |
| yet more on wise buying
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11/19/2001: Geoff |
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Mr. Nishimura's comments are certainly pertinent, however the idea that every or even most collectors will someday come to appreciate "better quality" is a little like saying that people will come round to appreciating gourmet food & fine wines after a lifetime of burgers & coke - it ain't going to happen.The diversity of opinion regarding desirability is predicated on individual assessment of "what I like", not necessarily what others think I should like.Some people genuinely feel good about acquiring what others regard as mediocre, let 'em enjoy.... |
| Canadian Wahl Eversharp
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11/19/2001: Cliff |
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In response to Rick's question, Eversharps were produced primarily in the company's factory on Roscoe Street in Chicago, but were also manufactured in Canada and in Great Britain. The Canadian pens are effectively identical to U.S. manufactured pens, and are distinguished only by the Made in Canada marking. Eversharp also produced pens in Candada that look like U.S. Oxfords, but were marketed under the name Mayfair.
English Eversharps, in contrast, are button fillers, are different in trim and shape, and are made from totally different plastics than U.S. and Canadian pens. They are dead ringers for Valentines and early English Parkers, and came in at least two sizes. Quality is good. They can be identified by a vertical Eversharp imprint on the back of the cap. Nibs are marked Eversharp Made in England 14K. Most are also marked "Kingswood" (quote marks and all) and Made in Great Britain on the barrels. Eversharp also pruduced mechanical pencils in England for a number of years.
Hope this helps. |
| yet more on wise buying
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11/19/2001: David Nishimura |
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When I began collecting fountain pens I was a grad student living on a very tight budget. Fixing up my purchases myself was part of the pleasure. There was no eBay then, but I did haunt flea markets and antique shops and shows; despite what some might think, even ten years ago not all that many great pens were turning up for a song in such venues. While I enjoyed the modest finds I made, it wasn't too many years later that I realized that I would have been happier had I followed the practice of buying one $200 pen instead of ten $20 pens.
Perhaps some new collectors will continue to enjoy their hoards of low-end pens indefinitely. I certainly don't want to rain on their parade. For many others, however, the day will come when they begin to appreciate why, in all fields of collecting, the advice is to buy fewer, better pieces rather than many cheaper items. It isn't that old timers are narrow-minded snobs or have an agenda to push -- it's that they've been there, and they have experienced how one's approach to collecting evolves over time. One can fritter away a heck of a lot of money in ten and twenty dollar increments, then turn around and wonder what it's all bought. |
| Bularian on Penbid
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11/19/2001: Allan |
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Check out Penbid #100146. This reminds me of the Fake Snake. |
| Gold filled
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11/19/2001: Tesora de L'Oro |
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Just came across this on an item on ebay ;
"What is Gold-Filled?
There is apparently (to us) a huge amount of confusion in the marketplace
about the terms Gold, 14KT Gold, 14Kt Solid Gold, Gold-Filled, Gold Plated
and Rolled Gold Plate. Confusion can cost you both money and your
reputation! We especially find lots of people who use the terms 14Kt Gold
and 14Kt Gold-Filled as synonyms. They AREN'T, and it is breaking the law to
substitute in that manner. Gold-Filled is a layer of 10Kt or better gold
mechanically bonded under heat and pressure to one or more surfaces of
supporting base metal (usually jewelers brass), then rolled or drawn to a
given thickness. (Since it is a surface layer of gold, you cannot cast
things with it!) In the jewelry industry the quantity of gold must be at
least 1/20th by weight of the total product. Under Federal Trade Commission
regulations, a product may be marked as 14, 12 or 10Kt Gold-Filled. Karat
measurement of gold content MUST be part of the marking (use of the words
Gold-Filled without including the preceding appropriate karatage is illegal.
This is also to differentiate from 14Kt Gold or 14Kt solid Gold, which
denotes an item containing the listed karatage of gold throughout the entire
product, and thus having much more total gold content). The finished product
thus has a surface layer of gold of the appropriate karatage, which is very
thick compared to gold plate, gold electroplate or rolled gold plate.
Marking of Gold-filled materials is commonly in the form of 14/20, 12/20 or
10/20, which mean respectively 1/20th by weight 14Kt Gold-Filled, 12Kt
Gold-Filled, etc. 14/20GF may also be used. These are minimum standards. One
might encounter 14/10GF to denote 1/10th 14Kt Gold-Filled, or 18/20GF to
designate 18Kt Gold-Filled material. Gold-Filled items are generally
considered life-time products, and the gold layer will not wear off, as it
will in electroplated products. We do very occasionally find an individual
who cannot wear this material (as there are some folks who cannot even wear
sterling or solid gold!), but it is extremely rare. Rolled Gold Plate is
made the same way as Gold-Filled material, but with a lower gold content.
The minimum standard is that 1/40th the total weight of product must be
gold. Thus a product marked 10K RGP is 1/40th 10Kt gold by weight. In
practice, we find the market standard has switched from 12Kt to 14Kt
Gold-Filled over the last 20 years. Beware of the difference! 14Kt
Gold-filled material carries over a 10% cost increase over 12Kt material.
Watch for this when comparison shopping! Thus someone simply advertising
"Gold-Filled" may be doing so to pocket the difference, or may simply not be
aware of any of the above! Concealing the difference between any Gold-Filled
and 14Kt solid gold material hides a difference of many multiples in value!"
Maybe some ebay listers, particularly of "gold" pens might take note........
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| Wahl-Eversharp and eBay
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11/19/2001: Rick |
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The written material I have does not describe any manufacturing operations for Wahl-Eversharp outside of the U.S. I am looking at buying a Doric but the pen indicates it was made in Canada. Would the quality still be the same?
I am new to pen collecting and my two cents worth on eBay is that if you are willing to assume the pen you get will have to be rehabed some, there are some good deals. I have not been really burned yet, outside of my own rash nature. |
| Sheaffer Pencils wanted
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11/19/2001: Randy |
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Am looking for two sheaffer pencils, if you have them and are interested in selling email backline. Both must be in good working condition.
Black Sheaffer white dot pencil to go with a White dot Snorkle pen. Must have correct clip.
Black military clip pencil. Need not be white dot.
Randy |
| ebay
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11/19/2001: James K. Goodwin |
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Without ebay, you would not be able to sell your pens at a price you wanted and what you had would be selling for a buck or so to anyone interested in buying one. Given the world wide selling opportunity, one has a good chance to sell his or her articles at a price they can attain as to what the market place will accept. that is the beauty of Ebay and the world wide internet. Jim |
| ebay buy sell
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11/19/2001: david i |
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hi guys.
much merit can be found in last two posts. I wish to be clear in the limited space of an e-list paragraph,that i view ebay "raw" pens and purchases from quality vintage pen dealers as complementary avenues of aquisition rather than a black/white either or proposition.
As noted, too, by others, there are significant shades of gray. One can buy *from* a quality vintage dealer on ebay as well. Though in such cases the reserve for a pen will tend to float in the retail range in any case. I would note that these days the opportunity to buy 5 pens on ebay for less than the cost of one similar pen sold *ratail* seems rather limited- though perhaps i'm not so good at searching for these. No doubt pen hoards of lowname/noname abused stuff can be found very cheap on ebay for the collector who wishes practice doing restorations. This sort of stuff isn't usually available from dealers, and does tend to be overpriced in antique shops. On my current foray to visit frinds in Washington and to peek in at Pen Haven, i stopped at several antique shops en route. Found nice broken HR waterman 521/2 plain black (now gray) for $55 :-((
I would agree that ebay besides providing a source of junker pens for restoration practice and providing something of an opportunity to find really nice pens at somewhat below retail (with associated risks) has found its forte in providing collectors with a selling venue. Even beginners, with decent ad can get decent cash for pens. Neat thing. That said, several of our excellent vintage retailers, as i understand it, DO TAKE CONSIGNMENTS. For those of you with really nice pens, hesitant to deal with ebay hassle and still not wishing to sell for pure wholesale, the dealer consignmentis a fair issue. If anyone emails me backchannel i can let you know names of the retailer i know of how DO TAKE CONSIGNMENTS. Since i don't know all who do or specifically who does not, probably better not to post on-list.
But again, with exception of buying the "cigar box full of junkers" to dabble with, i'd still opine that for a typical high quality starter pen (say Sheaffer Balance standard, parker vac single jewel major, conklin endura standard, Parker duofod, parker 51, etc) buying one from a retailers costs very little more, if any more, than buying a raw ebay pen which one will need to pay to have restored or which often arrives with many flaws. I have been very very happy with pens bought from pen dealers. best. david |
| more on ebay
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11/19/2001: einv |
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if i were a restorer/dealer, i would certainly
look at ebay for some pens to acquire at
low cost, restore it to new condition, and
sell it to customers, if possible through ebay itself. the people who
put their attic pens for sale on ebay
would get maximum for their pens rather than
if they deposited them with a flea market picker, or
a nearby antique store, who'll probably quote the
lowest possible fair price. eventually,
the pen will anyhow either go to a restorer
or a sumgai, so why not have it go directly from
the attic to the restorer/dealer, or the
interested internet sumgai? the rules
have changed. . for the many newbies, it is hardly possible to
wander lazily through antique stores or
build relationships with a single dealer
or picker. at least not if you are a
low budget beginner who is feeling around
the pen world (things would of course be
different if all i wanted was parker snakes
and had a million bucks to boot LOL).
for sellers and buyers alike, ebay represents
a direct pipeline between one major source
of pens, namely home attics, and one's
own desk, without the intermediate siphon
of middlepersons and dealers. and for that
aspect, i think ebay deserves its share
of praise, aside from the criticism that
is leveled on it (especially by those who
have been in the hobby for decades). |
| ebay and dealers
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11/19/2001: Ron |
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There's another side to the coin here. Most of the discussion has been about buying on ebay. What about selling? How many of us have bought pens over the years, and have for one reason or another, decided not to keep the pen. Let's not pretend that we haven't had this happen! Most likely, it's been cleaned, maybe restored, and you've used the pen for a while. To keep the pen may tie up limited resources. But just try to sell it to a dealer! You won't get anything near what it is worth, and you may not even break even on what you paid (and that's another whole area of discussion!) Not that you should expect to get top dollar for the pen - dealer has to make a profit after all! So what do you do? Put the pen on ebay, maybe set a reserve, and let the market decide what the value should be beyond that. I suppose that consignment is an option in some cases, but not many dealers are willing to do that. Perhaps one of the problems with ebay is the reluctance of most of us (me included) to post negative or neutral feedback when it really is warranted! If you got a klunker because you weren't paying attention and didn't read the listing carefully, that really is your problem. But if the listing was deceptive (either by outright lying or by simply leaving out details) then I think that the seller has an obligation to take the pen back, make an adjustment, or expect negative feedback. Just make sure that YOUR side of the deal is squeeky clean! |
| ebay and dealers
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11/19/2001: einv |
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i too buy from dealers and recommend
this option heartily to one and all,
they deserve to be patronised. however,
quite a number of dealers sell on ebay, so it is possible to get
high quality pens from them as well,
such as the vacumatics sold by the poster below.
my sole point was that really cheapo pens
under 30 bucks can be bought with many
intelligent questions asked, that are
worthy and in good condition, and from
companies that are usually not stocked
by dealers. no one would pester a dealer
for a goodservice bakelite pen with flex
nib, yet, when you get one in a lot of 6
pens for 35 bucks, and it is perfect except
for a sac, then i think that you have
done good even if the rest 5 turn out lemons.
(most often they all turn out decent.)
when i buy from dealers, there is a very
clear feeling that an 'investment' is being
made; no gambles will be tolerated. but
with ebay, it entirely depends on you, and
this allows for spontaneous decisions,
gambles, lucky breaks, bad breaks,. . in other
words, it is more fun. money disappears in
10 and 20 dollar bills rather than 100 and
200 dollar checks that dealer purchases
would entail. in conclusion, if i wanted ONE
first rate, stub nibbed 51 for my collection, i
would go to a dealer; but if i wanted many
examples of early flex nibs in hard rubber, i
would go ebay. they both have their merits
and neither one should be pushed at the
expense of the other, no matter what
the old timers think. (for a lot of us
students, pen shows, dealer storefronts, etc.
are mere concepts, stuff of dreams!) |
| clarification
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11/19/2001: david i |
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ambiguous phrasing in my note saying i wish to disagree with the point below that is better to buy starter pens from dealer before risking ebay. That sentence can be read either way i think, but my example was meant to point out that buying a nice pen from a vintage retailer at retail price is often a BETTER deal than buying raw pen at 30% less on ebay and having it turn out to have problems that knock value down 50%. I meant to be advocating the purchase of pens from dealers. Sorry if unclear. A bit logy from driving all nite. best.david
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11/18/2001: david i |
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hello. Interesting thread on "where to buY" etc. As is often case, more than one perspective exists on this point and there is no absolute answer.
On on hand, i concede that the psychological element of "the hunt" for pens on ebay certainly has meaning for me as a collector. I like to target nice items, ask the key questions (very important to do) and try to get a nice pen at less than retail. I would argue that to a large degree ebay has replaced hunting pens in "the wild" for many collectors. Now we have an electronic "wild". With so many buyers having found ebay, true bargains are rare though hardly impossible. Las month found a scarce Parker Vac "Senior" in Red for $160. Would have been $375 retail. happy me. I've also had disastrous purchases and occasions of buyers remorse in which the desire to "win" at auction superceded the tendency to target a good final price. So e-bay rarely offers same bargains as the old mythologic days of finding pens by the bushel at flea markets, but it offers about 30,000 pens a month for the perusal of the hobbyist. Many collectors who never had time to spend hours hunting antiques fairs can dabble at hunting ebay.
On the other hand, many of my nicest and most difficult-to-find pens have arrived in great shape and with guarantees from excellent vintage pen retailers. I always look forward to items shown to me or e-purchased by me from the various names we've discussed. Pens from David Nishimura's www.vintagepens.com, Bert Heiserman's Pen Haven, Berliner Pen, FountainPenHospital, Gary Lehrer's gopens, Penstoponline, etc are amongst some of the nicest in my nascent collection.
No "single" way exists to find nice pens. I might argue the opposite approach of what was quoted below, that perhaps it is more reasonable to buy a nice pen- even a humble model- from a reliable vintage dealer before scouring ebay. I see many many bidders who seem willing to bid $80 for raw Parker Vacs on ebay who perhaps are unwilling to pay $110 to retailers for a similar, restored model. Don't quite understand that. A good pen restoration (unless one intends to do himself- and then must factor in the time value- is worth at least $30 and half the time the cheap ebay pen arrives with marked problems.
Each player must decide what works best for him, but i often suggest to the newest of collectors to establish relationships with the excellent vintage retailers. Many pens (certainly not all) at the lower end of the price spectrum cost only marginally more from a dealer than would a raw pen from ebay plus restoration costs. And the dealer's pen should not have hidden flaws and will be backed by the seller.
I understand (and then some) the desire to hunt pens on ebay. I still believe the very few full time retail sources of pens in our little hobby are a great resource which should not be minimized.
best
david
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11/18/2001: robert jackson |
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my girlfriend has urged me to store my vintage pens in a fire resistant safe. this seemed silly at first because it is obviously possible that such a safe would not prevent the pens from melting. and yet i realized that the strenght of the safe should provide some measure of protection if something were to fall on it, so i began to think more seriously about using one. then she finally bought one for me. when i open it up, it smells strongly of the chemical used as a retardant/insulator.
can anyone say if this chemical will oxidize hard rubber pens or otherwise interfere with the organic materials of vintage pens?
much obliged, rjj |
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11/18/2001: rbruce |
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Just found my first copy of Hoban's "The Fountain Pens of Esterbrook," the standard reference. That
means I don't need the one I bought to replace it! $9 plus $4 s&h, or best offer.
While I'm at it, the same thing happened with my DeLorme "Tennessee Atlas & Gazeteer," 1992 ed.,
which contains topographical maps of the entire state "including back roads." $6 plus $4 s&H or best
offer.
Paypal or Check. |
| some information?
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11/18/2001: betty rippon. |
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I haven't been reading your bulletin board very long so some of my questions may have been answered. I am sick because my husband gave my box of lovely antque pens away with some other valuable things [he has dementia] and gets instuctions wrong some times] anyways I do have a box of lovely desk fountain pens that I would like to try and restore, at least the lever ones. The touch down and button I don't think I can do any thing about what do you think? Does any one know how to help me take apart the lever ones as they are in very good shape and I lhave lots of beautiful marble bases.Where can I buy the dubiel' da book? betty.Thanks.rpp142@aol.com rpp142@aol.com |
| Site updates
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11/18/2001: Konstantin Mihov |
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I have made some updates on my site. I would like to hear your opinion and even I hope that you might purchase something from me. My site is at www.geocities.com/konstantins_fountainpens/index
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| ebay buying for newbies
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11/18/2001: einv |
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i had the good fortune of discovering ebay before
the various message boards. i say 'good
fortune' because had i come across these
boards first, the horror stories here
would have totally discouraged me from
the learning experience that was ebay.
i buy from vintage dealers also. so far, i have
bought half a dozen pens from reputed vintage dealers,
but in cost they equal the 80-odd pens
i bought from ebay. let me get wishy-washy for
a moment. i think that i like every single pen i
got from ebay. many were damaged, but with
the aid of dubiel's da book, i learnt the
basic repair techniques, and now most of
them write superbly. some have been hybridized by
converting a shot plunger filler into an
eyedropper, etc. in short, a lot of fun
experiments and adventures, a lot learnt, and
at least half the pens could easily be in
that vintage seller's catalog with a
little buffing, selling for a hundred..
turn now to the vintage dealer purchases. are
they phenomenally better than the best
ebay purchases? i do not think an unequivocal
'yes' is the answer. sure, dealer pens are
guaranteed, restored professionally, and
for that reason expensive, but in my
humble opinion, there is no reason to not
buy a decent looking pen at a fraction of
dealer price, especially if good return policy
obtains. with all my initial ebay experiencs,
i also know exactly what i am paying for
when i buy a pen from a dealer. so, in sum, were
i to live my pen phase over, i would like
it to happen just the way it did, first
via ebay and only later, when tastes have
sharpened, to expensive dealer examples. |
| pens for sale
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11/18/2001: jeff peirce |
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Pens for Sale:
Parker black and pearl Duofold Centennial (later model) fine italic nib $150
Green Cross Townshend, fine nib (Mottishaw) $50
Columbus Progetto and Academia, yellow and tortoise, both for $50 |
| more on wise buying
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11/18/2001: David Nishimura |
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I fear that among the many new collectors who have discovered vintage pens through the Internet, too many feel they are in the position of Rod, who states that "my only opportunity for purchasing vintage pens has been through on-line auctions". Why "only"? Admittedly, there are not all that many full-time professional vintage pens sellers out there, but they are certainly not hard to find. Make no mistake -- I'm not trying to tell anyone they shouldn't be buying from eBay. But it is not the first place new collectors should turn to. To buy well at auction one must know what one is buying, including what is original and what is not, and one must know the market price, for which one must have a good idea of condition and grading. This cannot all be learned without handling actual specimens to serve as a benchmark. It does not matter so much whether those pens are handled at a pen show, a local club meeting, a get-together with another collector, or after being obtained through a reputable dealer. The important thing is that the experience be gained. |
| eBay Snake etc
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11/18/2001: David Nishimura |
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This is a case where a pen likely would have sold for more had it been brought to a pen show where serious buyers could examine it in person. From the pictures, there appeared to be extensive dinging to the cap crown plus unevenness at the circumferential edges of the overlay that suggested that there were losses to the silver there. Possibly not real problems at all, but when relying only on pictures. . . .
It is worth noting that high-end pens in poor condition are not easy to sell. Those who are in the market for the best of the best also want decent condition.
Finally, I should point out that the Parker Snake at the Bonhams & Brooks sale did NOT sell, bidding not reaching the reserve. That doesn't necessary indicate much about the market for Snakes, however, given the utter chaos into which B&B was thrown with the sudden departure of their entire pen department prior to the sale. There was also concern among the dealers present that the settings for the eyes were different on cap and barrel, which might suggest that there had been some eye replacement at some point.
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| Aurora Optima Fountain Pen for sale
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11/18/2001: Nick G. |
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Green marble Optima foutain pen with fine nib. Brand new in box. Asking $100 or best offer.
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| Nice Parker 51 For sale.
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11/18/2001: Douglas Vinayak |
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Up for sale is a Nice Clean Two Jewel Parker 51, with a Heritage Cap.(windowpane pattern cap) Dark Brown Barrel. The pen has not been engraved on, no damage anywhere! No dings on its cap. The clip is solid gold. 550.00 obo. |
| Thank you Don, Victor and David
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11/18/2001: Rod |
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As someone relatively new to collecting writing instruments, I very much appreciate the knowledge and (dare I say) wisdom of experienced collectors. Living "in the middle of nowhere" (well, Iowa, anyway), my only opportunity for purchasing vintage pens has been through on-line auctions. More often than not, however, I have been a little (and often a great deal) disappointed in the condition and quality of the pens that I have purchased. I look forward to the day that I can go to a pen show and actually see and touch the pens in which I am interested. For the time being, I will try to learn from these sages and be more careful in my on-line purchases. Again, thank you for the valuable information that you (knowledgeable long-time collectors) provide and please continue to post information and advice for those of us who are new fans of fountain pens.
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| Pen collecting history and books
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11/17/2001: Don Lavin |
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Another important issue and one which is always being brought up and debated is the value of pen valuation books. One has to know and understand the author to get a clear picture of what the intention of the author is and was. Some books may overly state the value of many pens with a view towards elevating their value and without regard to the reality of the marketplace. Another may undervalue certain pens to afford a better opportunity to obtain those pens at more reasonable prices. NEVER PUT YOUR TRUST IN ANY PEN VALUAION GUIDE. At best I have used these guides to help me identify pens I was unfamiliar with and to get an idea as to which pens may be worth more than others given outstanding condition. Condition is so important in valuing pens that it can not be overstated enough. Each guide book uses a different valuing system and the values posted may only be for perfect, near mint examples. Now go find them in the field! Most older vintage pens in the wild have defects and each defect has a different potential impact on that pens real value. Like Victor pointed out, a discolored jade green pen, no matter how big or rare is still an ugly discolored pen to most collectors and I for one, will not pay much for any of them no matter how "rare". But find a near mint Jade pen by say, Waterman in the Patrician line, and prices go up accordingly and often way above so called "book" value. In my opinion the guide books have done dealers more harm than good over the years. All too often I have seen flea market dealers overpay for pens for resale because they were guided, or mis-guided by a book. And then most non-pen and some pen dealers do not know how to properly use these books - they do not read all of the caveats posted in the introductions etc. How many collectors have gone to a flea market, have located pens and then when asking the prices are told "I will sell them for 1/2 book". Sounds good until you realize that the vast majority of these pens are not worth 1/4 of the books published value. One quick story. I am in a mall and I see some nice pens way overpriced. I make contact with the seller and ask him how he assigned values. He referred to the "Book". I asked him to point out the page for one of the pens he was selling. On that same page was a ladies Duofold in red for something like $365 and a vastly overpriced pencil. I asked him how many of those items he would like from my collection at 10% of book and I was not kidding. I suggested that he would be better served if he were to check with other collectors for verification of value in order to better his opportunity to make a sale. At the time we could not sell a ladies Duofold in red for more than $30 and Duofold pencils in red were always a tough sell. Who can honestly assign an extraordinarily high value to those pens and stand by it. Take all of the guide books on the market today and try to figure out the real value of any pen - good luck. What is the value of a Snake? What anyone is willing to pay on any given day, no more and no less. Frankly, I am surprised that anyone is willing to pay over $10,000 for any pen over the internet from a stranger at any time. I have witnessed enough examples of fraud in person to person dealings over the years much less on the internet to give me great pause. And if one is willing to spend that much, I suggest hopping on a plane for an extra few hundred dollars and arranging to see the pen in person before completing the transaction. That is what many prudent collectors have done in the past and it should be more failsafe than even using an escrow where the escrowee probably does not know anything about the item received other than the fact that they received something. Caveat Emptor. |
| David I's comments etc.
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11/17/2001: Don Lavin |
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As a so called "First generation collector" I have witnessed all of the changes in this hobby for over 20 years and can comment on every change during that period. In fact, for many years I wrote my year end column for Pen World with my "State of the Pen World" observations in attempting to cover what was hot and what was not etc. If people are really interested I can post messages tracing the various developments. But for the time being let me say that many of David's observation are accurate especially in connection with the Parker Snake pen recently offered and sold on Ebay. To a new collector the Parker Snake may be either 1) unheard of 2) legendary or 3) of no interest anyway. How rare are Parker Snakes? Well to a new collector unimaginably rare I assume. How many have I seen and handled over the years? Maybe 20, 30 or more. I do not consider the Parker Snake that rare when virtually every major vintage collector has at least one or more. You want rare? Find an A.A. Waterman Snake pen, perhaps one of the most beautiful of that genre. Or the Waterman Snake. Those pens have full covered barrela and caps with raised Snakes, not like the Parker with the open hard rubber which does tend to get oxidized and which therefore is not as attractive. I have always considered the Parker Snake one of the most overrated pens in pendom. If it were not for the fact that the PFC elected to use the Snake in its logo I wonder how valuable they would be today. The silver model Shanin sold is much less common than the gold filled models and to my way of thinking it should have brought $15,000 or more. In a perfect world it may have but how many collectors on Ebay who would be willing to spent an extravagent amount of money with 1) a stranger 2) without having first handled the pen and having examined it very, very carefully for defects and/or 3) having the pen examined on their behalf by someone with a great deal of knowledge of Parker Snake pens? With all of the internet fraud occuring I certainly would not. Yes there are fake Snake pens out there. In looking at Shanin's pen I would bet anything that it was original. But I do not know the seller and whereas I may spend a lot of money for a pen from someone I know and trust I would not be willing to take the same chances with strangers even with a high feedback rating. There are a considerable number of factors which go through my mind when examining a pen to determine its authenticity, condition and value and to do this accurately through small pics on a computer screen is all but impossible. More later. |
| Contemplating Patina
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11/17/2001: Victor |
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In reading Dr. I's interesting posting on *Snake Pricing* and in particular his remarks on the greying of the first generation of pen collectors, and earlier in the day, during a pen clinic at Write with Style, while taking a section from a discolored jade and fitting it in a nicer colored jade, led me to think along a different tact. This is the generation that also created the *rules* of our hobby and by direct implication, the pricing of pens. These rules were largely borrowed from allied hobbies such as stamps and coins. Hence the grading system for condition and consequently the price structure. There are already significant discussions on this subject, in its relationship to the restoration of pens. There is *some* agreement on the restoration of the mechanical parts of pens and limited work on the body surface, along with various issues of disclosure. I want to bring up the issue of patina, or in pen language discoloration, via a range of other collectable hobbies, to ask the question of how we established our current criteria. To be sure, I am completely ignorant of the deeper issues of condition of these hobbies, although I am aware of their general application. In furniture, the patina is highly valued as against refinished vintage stuff. In cars, old paint is just that. In antique silver, polish at you own risk and loose 20% (?) of the value. Don't polish coins and I don't know how much if any part of a postage stamp can be cleaned up. I believe in vintage tools, all the mechanical and cutting components can be restored and although I am not sure if that includes wood parts such as handles. The mechanical parts of watches can be restored. Does that extend to the dial and hands? Books are very complex. Collecting first editions is similar to stamps and coins. In antique books, bindings and in particular certain later bindings seem to bring a premium. Is that because collecting first editions is something of a recent development? I hope you are getting my general drift: In products that are made from organic material and objects that are not mechanical ones, the aging process along with other sets of criteria, are highly valued. In mechanical objects, restoration and replacement are necessary to command a high premium. Now hard rubber and celluloid are both organic material. We know that celluloid will age, some color stocks more rapidly than others. As I threw away the discolored jade into a parts bin, the following scene flashed through my mind: 100 years from now, a pen collector will see two Sheaffer balance jades, one heavily discolored and the other one in perfect green color and this collector will instantly know that the discolored one is a far more valuable and rare 1930s celluloid jade, while the one in perfect color is a much later and more common 1990s acrylic copy. Discoloration will be highly valued and it will become the hallmark of vintage celluloid. Nah that will never happen. My judgments are based on sound aesthetic principles: green jade is beautiful and brown jade is ugly:) I think JoAnna must have put something in my coffee. |
| Conklin cap
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11/17/2001: Charles |
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I am looking to buy a cap for a Conklin #46 in chased, black hard rubber - wave pattern.
Thanks |
| Parker Snake pricing
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11/17/2001: Kristi |
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Parker snake at Bonhams and Brooks London auction (a really poor collection of pens sold by people who acted as though they could care less....) brought around $11,400 plus significant add on taxes and fees. |
| final part 6 snake pricing
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11/17/2001: david i |
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Hi shanin, to finish this thread.... Sixth, you will note that our economy is in
trouble. The bubble internet economy that artificially made it appear that our
prior president could generate a good economy has appropriately burst. On
top of all the issues noted previously, people this year have lots less disposable
cash than last year. You will thus note that most knowledgable collectors
will concur that the current market for Overlay pens is depressed for many
reasons. So.... when a rare pen appears on ebay, what happens? Several
things. In a "cash only" ad showing a moderately discolored HR snake pen
(let us not debate if recoloring should or should not be done ) there will be
some hesitation to begin with. I apologize that i do not recall off hand your
stated return policy- would you have taken the pen back if the customer
found a cap crack??? If return policy is not good this adds further hesitency.
I know that if Ed or Geoff or Sam or Gary or Fultz or Maryann etc looks
me in the eye and says- "david, this one has not been tampered with. it is
original and kosher" then there is pretty good chance that i am getting the
right item. In an unknown auction requiring cash and with (unknown to me
at moment) tenous return policy, the effect on price is significant. A pen like
this mite do better at auction in Chicago or LA with protective reserve,
where the grading and gravitas are supported by the people running the
auction. Futhermore, the rumors I have hear suggest that *really* sharp
snake pens have not been changing hands for more than $15k. Maybe some
have pulled less. These are pens sold by known, reliable collectors. I will
defer to the big guys to clarify this number. But for a gray colored pen in a
cash-only ebay auction from an unknown source?? Well, the 10K price i saw
on your item couple days ago was not a bad price. I'm not sure such item
would pull much more than 10k even if presented at a pen show by a
collector. If yours did better than this in the end, you did quite well. Quite
well, indeed. Although, that is just the perspective of a clueless collector of
plastic pens, so i will be happy to hear from others about that. thanks for a
provocative conversation. regards..david |
| part 5 snake pricing
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11/17/2001: david i |
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Hi shannin. to continue analysis of pen values..... Fifth, whilst the active first
generation of vintage pendom had pretty much to exert themselves to find
the pens in the "wild", it didn't take long for collectors to get their grubby
mitts on the pens and start fiddling with them. We were not many years into
this "organized" hobbies when excellent and necessary articles began to
appear in PenFancier's Magazine, PENnant and Penworld about the "ethics"
and "etiquette" of pen collecting. Why? because overlays were being reglued
and retooled, black hard rubber was being darkened and recolored, entire
caps and parts were being manufactured to fit broken pens, and various
frankenpens and marriages were being concocted. "Originality" became and
issue and debates about "archival" restoration became the cause of the day. I
will admit that despite really appreciating the very early Hard Rubber pens
and the beauty of Overlay pens, that i am hesitant to buy them- they are
expensive relative to my price point in collecting, and when i encounter them
at penshows (less true for the rare item found truly in "the wild") i wonder if
they are all original or not. This is my insecurity. I do not claim most people
share it. But again, we are not a commodities exchange. There are few rules
and few guarantees. A handfull of big dealers offer return options, and those
very dealers have to worry about folks monkeying with the item after
purchase and then sending it back to them with new example of the flaws
noted above. Most folks at pen shows let people inspect an item, but once
purchase is made, purchase is done. There are many reasons indeed why
newer collectors are not yet comfortable popping $1000 or $10000 or
$40000 vintage pens. See Part 6 |
| part 4 snake pricing
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11/17/2001: david i |
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Hi shanin, to continue analysis of pricing of rare overlay vintage pens....
Fourth, grading plays a very strong role in pen prices. Everyone and his
brother seems to want to demand $500 for, say, a red Parker Vacumatic
Maxima as this is roughly the retail price for an excellent restored specimen.
However, many of the pens found in the wild and sold on ebay by non
pen-retailers have brassing and cracks and bends and discoloration and bad
threads etc- but to some degree this doesn't stop folks from citing "i have nice
red maxima book value $500". Not a problem, just an observation. One
should note that it is possible to reduce the value of such a pen to ZERO if
enough is wrong with it. Usually there is some salvage value for nibs, clips,
endjewels etc, but there is no limit in theory to the drop in value one can
impose on a pen by hurting it enough And, the source of the pen factors
into the price as well You perhaps get a sense of where i am going with this.
See part 5 |
| part3 Snake pricing
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11/17/2001: david i |
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Hi shannin- to continue analysis of vintage pen pricing.....Third, the newer
generation of pen collector seems not to have matured yet into the comfort
zone, knowledge base, or financing to provide the base of the "pyramid" that
all collectibles hobbies require to maintain any given pricing structure. The
rare coins in collections 20 years old maintain their "value" of $100,000
mainly as there are new collectors coming along to pay that price.
Worrisome for the pricing structure in our pen hobby, this base is not fully in
place yet. A pen might "book value" for $15k, but there have to be folks in
place to pay that or the book value isn't worth the paper on which it is
printed. This is true at many levels of our hobby. While i cannot prove that
"catalog" prices for pens 10 years ago reflect what any given dealer actually
obtained for the item, i will note that numerous better celluloid/plastic pens
routinely sell at RETAIL today for less than i've found them for sale in cool
old pen catalogs from 1990. Maybe overpriced then in those catalogs, maybe
underpriced now, but again we must be careful in assuming what the "market
must demand" for a given pen. At the same pen show i can find identical
pens sometime priced such that one is twice the cost of the other. This is not
a commodities market with 1% variance in pricing. See part 4 |
| part2 snakeprices
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11/17/2001: david i |
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To continue, shannin.... Analyzing the source of this apparent weakness in
the overlay market is beyond the scope of this short note and probaly is
beyond the scope of my limited knowledge of the market in rare vintage
pendom. Several factors perhaps play role.
First is the "graying" of first fandom with an associated less aggressive
posture in pursuing such pens- senior collectors have the pens already or are
less inclined to buy the few they lack. Maybe.
Second, our hobby is but one generation old, and one notes that the active
first generation of collectors was hardly one of across-the-board independent
wealth. But the first generation- per mythology- could find pens in flea
markets- pens worth $1000 could be found for $20 with "some" frequency.
This financed the trade in high end pens. Folks who might not routinely
afford to pop out $1000, could trade their $20 purchase worth $1000 for the
pen they seek worth $1000. This is much less common today and is much
less available as a financing mechanism to second generation collectors. See
part 3
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| Part 1Snake Prices
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11/17/2001: david i |
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hi shanin. I have experienced this before and watched members of the pen
community lose real cash to scams. A real problem in the anonymous e-world
we play in. I was able to encourage the pic-thief to close auction so this had
fair resolution, IMHO.
Let me briefly address the snake pen pricing issue you raised. First, much as
i am a hack-amateur-newbie in most aspects of pendom, i am a
hack-squared-amateur-newbie when it comes to rare (in real sense of word)
exotic overlay early HR pens. So everything that follows should be taken
with that qualification in mind. Though i will note this has been a very
exciting week for rare overlay pens on ebay. Better stuff in some respects
than i've seen in any one of the last 10 penshow's worth of auctions or last 8
months on ebay. A red HR overlay turban top-ish Parker, a little black silver
overlay again turban-toppish pen, and your snake pen. What a week to
browze the on-line market!!!!
However, and take this for what it is worth, one of the running threads of
discussion at pen show dinners and pen show poker games and pen show
table chat and on-line big retail websites teaching pages, has been the
WEAKNESS during the last year (or more?) or so in the the pricing
structure of the old rare stuff. Not the humble vacumatics i focus on, or the
nice sheaffer balances, and conklin enduras and esterbrooks, but rather on the
"big pens"- those hunted by the guys at this many years, with great
knowledge and wallets to back up the interest. See Part 2
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| Montblanc Octavian
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11/17/2001: Lee |
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Brand new Octavian for sale.
Medium nib.
Box & papers included.
Never used or dipped.
MAKE YOUR BEST OFFER!
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| Retired Namiki Vanishing Point
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11/17/2001: Joi Rhone |
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I am looking for the retired Namiki Vanishing Point, all matte back finish. Does anyone have one or know where I can get one? |
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11/17/2001: Shanin Burke |
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David, I am sorry to hear you are experiencing the same problems that I had last week. At least it sounds as if you think the other party's are having legitimate auctions. By the way, the snake pen did not bring near what it was worth, I feel all of the commotion scared many of the potential buyers away. Sighhhhh....that's life. |
| Neptune Lord of the Sea
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11/17/2001: Allen Gross |
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Hi Penlovers, I've recently introduced a beautiful new scrimshaw on mother of pearl pen on Stylophiles. If your a collector who appreciates something really unique, stop and take alook. The edition size is limited to only 20 pens, six of which have already been sold. It can also be viewed on my website at www.pensplus.org, regards Allen |
| WTB: Montblanc Boheme Bleu
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11/17/2001: Bob Galbreath |
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I passed on purchasing a Montblanc Boheme Bleu FP with retractable XF or F nib at the Columbus pen show. Now I would like to purchase one. Does anybody have one for sale or know where on the internet I can find one for sale. |
| Stolen Pic is finished.
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11/17/2001: david i |
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Well, the seller who without permission used my ebay picture of a MB 146 Goldfill Barleycorn pen cancelled the auction tonite. We had couple polite, but pointed chats. Guess i should feel bad. Would be much easier to let it pass, but had to do what is- i truly believe- the right thing. Apparently the seller realized that too. Though for all i know he still could've sold it to one of the bidders. In future, when selling MahBlah or whatever (maybe that stupid rolex watch on ebay too) gonna have to paint "property of David" or some such alll over the thing so it doesn't crop up in multiple auctions down the pike. Thanks to all for the backchannel suggestions. David |
| 1946 Parker "51" Beechcraft airplane model
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11/16/2001: Len Provisor |
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Orders for production of this replica model will end on 12/31/01.
This is the Parker corporate aircraft that inspired President Kenneth Parker to produce the first "Flighter" fountain pen in 1949.
Each model is in production for the calender year only. Last year's 1928 Duofold Fairchild model saw only 127 produced and are no longer available. Two dealers have a few left. Wouldn't you know it, now I'm getting calls for them all the time. Sorry, I have none, call me for dealer's names.
I never thought I would make a great quantity of these beautiful and highly detailed models, perhaps just over 100 or so. As a result they will be very difficult to obtain in the future. These professional models are a solid wood construction, completely hand painted lettering and details made from original aircraft blueprints and Parker family photo archives. An impressive 18" wingspan and mounted on a wood base that is personally signed by Geoffrey S. Parker, great-grandson of George S. Parker. The first 100 only are numbered, I have them on hand for immediate delivery, and I still have a few left. Once these are purchased, it will take at least 3-4 months for delivery of other orders. This Parker "51" Beechcraft model and vintage photos can be seen on my website WWW.INKBLOTTERS.COM or just click on the INKBLOTTERS.COM ad banner you see on this site. BTW, the great model photos were taken by Dean Tweeddale, and you'd swear it was the real plane in flight.
Dean, Donal Higgins and Richard Binder from Pentrace.com also performed some computer magic to "colorize" some of the original vintage photos. In January I will announce the next Parker corporate aircraft model that will be made. |
| His Nibs.com update
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11/16/2001: Norman Haase |
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Hello all!
After importing Hero pens from China for a number of years, I thought I'd try a few of Shanghai's 2nd-largest pen manufacturer. Wing Sung has also been around for decades (I know several people who grew up using them in Asia), and the models that I've gotten in are quite interesting -- and quite different from those offered by Hero (although they continue the tradition of fine-size nibs only):
http://www.hisnibs.com/wing_sung.htm
Click here to read about the Thanksgiving sale:
http://www.hisnibs.com/
Don't forget to take advantage of the November Special:
www.hisnibs.com/specials.htm
Regards,
Norman Haase
His Nibs.com
www.hisnibs.com
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11/16/2001: dan fisher |
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hi
i am looking for adress of fountaim pens shops to buy parker 51 in miami florida.
i'll glad to have this information
regard
dan
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11/16/2001: Brian H |
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Hello, all. I'm new to the board, so I hope I'm not intruding, but I wanted to get some advice. I'm going to Chicago soon to visit my wife's family, and I was hoping maybe somebody could give me some ideas on some good places to go pen hunting. I'm thinking more along the lines of reasonable vintage pens than swank shops full of the latest editions Mont Blanc writers series... though perhaps a special occasion like this trip is just the smoke screen I need to swing a big purchase in under the wife's radar. Hmm..
At any rate, anybody who knows the Windy City pen scene, please drop me a line and give me the details, either by email or this board or whatever. Thanks in advance! Brian |
| Yay! response from fraud-pic seller
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11/16/2001: david i. |
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Interesting follow up on the fellow who stole my picture for use on another ebay pen ad. (MB 146 goldfill). Last time after receiving the typical "i'm new, didn't mean to steal, can i just use the ad?" I was pretty soft in response, and received proper disagreement from many listmembers who pointed out that this process is theft of a sort and that folks should not be allowed to continue process after just a weak apology. This time (second theft of this pen pic) first i received a demand to prove copyright, then a more reasoned. """"I will delete this as soon as I get off work tonight. I am trying to sell my
father in laws pens as best as I knew how and didn't know you couldn't find
another picture...I don't have a digital camera to use...I'm just trying to
learn how to do all this stuff.
I'm sorry if I've caused you any inconvenience...I would delete the item
right now but my system at work won't allow me too.."""""""
We shall have to see how this turns out. Nice of him to at least admit it wasn't his pic. I suspect he intended no malice, but this lifting of internet propert is just not right. Lord knows not worth the effort to really pursue legally, but darned irritating, it is.
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| WTB: Cross Millenium Edition Century II FP
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11/16/2001: tim |
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WTB: Cross Millenium edition Century II fountain pen |
| Pen Clinic at Write with Style
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11/16/2001: Victor |
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Greetings: A reminder that Penopoly is setting up a pen clinic tomorrow at Write with Style starting at about 11:00. Both Roger and I will be there. Bob Leeds is our host and he is responsible for a great pen store at 281 Hillsdale Mall, San Mateo, CA. If you have a pen that needs work, bring it along and we'll try to do the repairs there. |
| Parker duofold snake gold + silver
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11/16/2001: Jaak |
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for sale in mind condition 1 duofold golden snake + 1 duofold silver snake price: 12400 Euro for the two. |
| oops. Fraud Alert
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11/16/2001: Mark |
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Dr. Dweebison, are you trying to say something? |
| pro fraud??
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11/16/2001: david i |
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If i recall properly, back on another penlist one of us who shall
remain-heh-nameless, writing under one of his several *previous* e-identities, wrote a
poorly worded diatribe that got him (wrongly, IMHO) accused of flagrant
racism. I defended that someone . Perhaps someone could learn a bit from
needing to repeatedly change identities out of embarressment, before
returning to tossing about simple insults. I would *NOT* mind a painful critique of my
desire not to be annoyed by theft of my work. At least i hope i would not mind.
However, a poorly parsed diatribe citing accusations of laziness when no such accusation
was made by me... seems vaguely irrelevent. One wonders if such commentary relates to
recent *anonymous* flames. This will be my last post here on this thread. If anyone doubts
the pic is mine or thinks i have other agenda to whack an e-sale, by all means give a yell.
Best regards.david |
| oops. Fraud Alert
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11/15/2001: Mark |
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Talk to the seller before playing with your fingers. I see, that you are as lazy as an accused seller. |
| oops. Fraud Alert
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11/15/2001: david i |
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sorry hit send.
Last month I sold mb 146 goldfill on ebay. took 1 hour+ to make pics. Sold nicely.
This is ad
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1004521010
now a seller has again stolen my pics- again the bottom picture for a possibly fraudulent sale at
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1033793923
Pic is flipped sideways, smaller and hazier. But despite the claim of "medium" nib, the stub nib from my pen shows as does the feathered edges of the photoshop'ed pic.
Second time this pic has been heisted. Maybe i should go into photography :-(
Last time i was yelled at (fairly) for letting him have retroactive permission to use. I won't this time, though not much else to do but complain.
Please be careful. there are no other pics with this ad. This raises question of whether there really is a pen. There could be a pen but we don't know that, since the ONLY picture is of my pen. I have the original 3MB file. Thanks. David
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| WANTED
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11/15/2001: Mark Peysakhovich |
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Looking for Waterman Pen Case for 3 pens, made like a cigar case.
Please contact me backchannel with the price and condition. Thanks, Mark |
| Snorkle section
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11/15/2001: Fred Krinke |
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To Adrian, I have a Sheaffer Snorkle section,what color would you like ? most were black, but I do have some of the colored ones too. If it's black, they made it in two sizes, the "early"one had a small thread for the nib,(17/64th)
while the later model was larger, (19/64th).If you need more info, feel free to call me at 1-800-4MY-PENS 9-4 PST. or Sat.10-3 .
Fred Krinke, The Fountain Pen Shop |
| Wanted a Montblanc 30371 “notebook” for the Mozart
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11/15/2001: Gerry G. |
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I am looking for the Monblanc small “notebook”, number 30371 or equivalent, that fits the Mozart pen or pencil. Yes I know the retail price is $100, I just do not want to pay retail .. you all know what I mean. Any suggestions? |
| Aurora Fountain Pen For Sale
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11/15/2001: Nick G. |
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Green marble optima, fine nib. Pen is brand new and in box. Received the pen as a gift. Tried the pen once, for like five minutes, and decided that I didn't like it. Asking $180 or best offer. Thank you. |
| Aurora pen for sale
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11/15/2001: Michael Waylonis |
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Silver barrel Aurora Hastil fountain pen, has converter or uses cartridge. It's either a 14k or 24 k gold nib. Comes in an aluminum cylinder approximately 8"by3". Writes beautifully. Asking $75 plus shipping. Contact by e-mail or phone 814-456-8318 after 8PM EST. Ask for Mike. |
| 2 Wahl ring-tops FS
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11/14/2001: Nick Dobson |
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These pens were my 1st flex nibs. Both are lovely & excellent writers, but I don't use them any more, so they're on the block.
1) Gold-fill LF w/ parallel lines runnning the length of both cap & barrell, unmarked indicia. 3.75 inches capped, 5.125 inches posted. #2 Wahl flex nib. Worn on top of cap around ring, but otherwise excellent condition (i.e. signs of use, but no ding, dents, major scratches, brassing, teeth marks, etc.). Needs a new sac; lever motion is restricted, & I can hear it grating against what I assume are the remains of the old sac. Cap & barrell both marked 14 1/8 (which I take to be the gold fill ratio(?)). Cap marked pat. July 5 '04, barrell marked pat. Jan 28 '04. I'd like $50 for this pen.
2) Lapis blue LF. 4.375 inches capped, 5.875 inches posted. Wahl-Eversharp #2 flex nib. 2 cap bands (very slight brassing). cap marked Wahl-Eversharp made in Chicago. The color on this pen is a fantastic deep blue. It is either perfectly preserved, or has darkened at a perfectly even rate, as there is no fluctuation in cap or barrell. Excellent condition (i.e. signs of use, but no ding, dents, major scratches, brassing, teeth marks, etc.). In good working order. I'd like $125 for this pen.
Thanks for looking,
Nick |
| sheaffer's/parker
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11/14/2001: stefan |
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Is anybody able to date a sheaffer jade flat-top by serial number? |
| More Retailer Kudos
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11/14/2001: Steve |
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I recently purchased Andy Lambrou's most recent book on sale at Pendemonium, and received it two days later. The book was ordered a day before Sam and Frank went to the Ohio Pen Show (shame on me). One of the outstanding services provided (at no extra charge), is the care and detail that goes into the packaging of product ordered. It is a clear sign to me, that Pendemonium truly values what they sell, and to whom they sell.....Thanks |
| Parker Mosaic Duofold's
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11/13/2001: Esther |
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Fountain $235, Roller $165, Ball $135. While supplies last. We have a limited number available at these prices. Thank you. |
| Repair Time Frame
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11/13/2001: Will Thorpe |
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Thanks Victor, I found it very interesting. |
| WTB: Section for Triumph Snorkel
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11/13/2001: Dejected |
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God, I hate myself.
The first time I tried the alcohol burner for separating the section from the barrel, the pen burst into flames and black smoke. Fortunately, it was a "practice pen"; also the carbon-based spousal unit was not home at the time, otherwise my whole pen collection would be on EBay right now.
The second time was this evening on a Snorkel Sheaffer (Triumph nib). The section finally came off, using the alcohol burner and rubber-tubing wrapped pliers. Unfortunately, it is deformed with the heat! You can imagine my laughs of triumph turning into screams of horror and dementia.
So..... anyone got a section they would like to sell?
Regards, Adrian |
| Repairing/sealing Sheaffer Lifetime nib leak??
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11/13/2001: markh |
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I have a Sheaffer vacuum filler with a triumph nib - based on Lambrou's book, I would guess its a LIfetime. It has the larger triumph nib - larger than a Snorkel.
The pen has a very slight leak, at one point where the nib contacts the section. How can this be repaired?? Does the nib need to be removed from the section? Is there an easy way to just seal this from the outside??
thnx,
mark
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| New Dandy
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11/13/2001: JAMES |
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New Dandy by Conway Steward just arrived. It comes with 6 colors. They are brillant and gorgeous colors. Order right now before they are gone at www.go-pens.com. |
| Dunhill "Dress" Ballpoint pen
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11/13/2001: Ron Cresswell |
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I have an unused Dunhill discontinued "Dress" model gold plated ballpoint for sale . It retailed around £200 ($300) . I will accept £ 130 ($200). |
| Cross Townsend
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11/12/2001: Bill Brewer |
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Can I get any comments on the Cross Townsend fountain pen.
I looked at one in Service merchandise, but was unable to try the pen.
The nib looked to be very flexible.
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| For Sale
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11/12/2001: Mark |
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Offered for sale:
1) Parker 51, Black Aero, very smooth and wet BROAD nib, the barrel is shiny, the cap is Gold Filled with converging lines, free of dings and dents, comes with a box.
2) Retired Matte Black Namiki Vanishing Point, filled 2-3 times - like new, broad nib, comes with boxes/papers.
3) Senator Windsor in Transparente Blue, piston fill, filled twice - like new. Reasonable offers.
Thanks in advance, Mark
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| clip for C-S 756M
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11/12/2001: Jeff Hornick |
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Hey All,
Just purchased a Conway Stewart 756M on eBay that's going to need a clip (fixed, ball-type) and I was wondering if anyone might have one lying around waiting for a pen. Thanks for your help.
Jeff |
| His Nibs.com Thanksgiving Sale
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11/12/2001: Norman Haase |
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Hello all!
As a thank you for a terrific year at His Nibs.com, now, through the end of Thanksgiving weekend on November 25th, purchase any pen and you may take 30% off any additional Hero pens purchased in your order (Hero sale pens in 'The Palace' www.hisnibs.com/the_palace.htm excluded)! So, purchase a Sheaffer (including new, old stock), Genius or Hero pen at our already low prices (best of all, this first pen still qualifies you for a free pen from the November Special www.hisnibs.com/specials.htm), and take any additional Hero pens at 30% off. This is a great way to stock up for holiday gifts, or to just add to your Hero collection at unbeatable prices.
Regards,
Norman Haase
His Nibs.com
www.hisnibs.com
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| What's New At Swisher Pens
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11/12/2001: Chuck Swisher |
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We have just added a few additional items to our "What's New" page. Included are the "New" Stipula 22, a selection of Platinum Multi-Function Pens, the Aurora 88 Limited Edition Demonstrators (fountain pens and roller balls), plus a few special offers.
To find out what's new at Swisher Pens, please use the following link:
http://www.swisherpens.com/New_Items/New_items.html (There's also a "What's New" button at the top of our "Home" page at www.swisherpens.com).
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| Montegrappa Elmo
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11/12/2001: Susanna |
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I had the Montegrappa Elmo in catalog, but now it's sold out, so I deleted thelinks to its page. Please look at the old page, if the pens is that: http://www.pens.it/pens.htm?montegrappa/_elmo.htm --- it's made in maculated resin and sterling silver trims, and has a small 18 kt gold nib. The nib has the classic greek decorations as many other Montegrappa pens have. Susanna / PENS.IT |
| Diplomat Classic Limited Edition
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11/12/2001: G.D.Yorke |
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I lost a precious pen some months ago, given to me by students at the NYC high school where I teach. It was from a limited edition of 5000, was marble grey and bore a style #CC0430. Does anyone out there have one available?? |
| Repair Time Frame
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11/12/2001: Victor |
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The thread on Jerry prompted me to write about repair time frame, not so much to offer support or justification, since I don't know his situation, rather as a source of information. Some idea about the kinds of projects we undertake. Roger Cromwell and I operate Penopoly as a repair facility and he also sells vintage pens. I only repair pens. We receive anywhere between 20-40 pens a week for repair and restoration and our current time frame is about a month, although a few pens will take longer. I thought I would share with you the current work I have, describe the repairs and the probable time frame. Besides there are some very interesting pens here. These repairs are in the order we received them
Parker 61 flighter: replace arrow on hood. We ran out of parts hoods and took two weeks to find one. Can't wait for the right color hood to show up, so we transfer the arrow. This will be attached today, wait three days for the adhesive to cure, then polish and send to customer.
Sheaffer Nostalgia, 1980s, filigree overlay, barrel thread broken off in several pieces. Waiting for a response from Sheaffer to see if they still have a stock of these barrels. Customer had already done that, but thought we check again. If Sheaffer no longer stocks these, then find a barrel with the appropriate threads and attach it. Last option is to machine a barrel to match and fit the filigree on it. You don't even want to know the work involved here since its likely to exceed the replacement cost of the pen. Time frame: it will take a while.
Onoto: needs a replacement section which I have. The hard rubber plunger rod is broken. These came in all different sizes, so a waiting for a replacement part is out of the question. I will tap the broken rod and use a 0-80 stainless screw to bring the two pieces together. The joint will be stronger than the original part. Replace all the seals. Time frame: 2-3 hours.
Two Waterman silver filigree overlays: a coin filler, very rare, made only one year 1907 (?), need to make a pressure bar for this. This is a pen I never thought I would see, so a real pleasure to work on it. The other waterman needs a replacement clip which I have, but don't have the silver attachment posts. I have to make one. Time frame: 4-5 hours.
Pelikan 400: 1950s replacement seal. Time frame 1-2 hour.
Conklin 75: replace clip Time frame 1-2 hour
Vintage Aurora 88: replace seal. Time frame: 1-2 hour
These are a bunch of seals so I will just list them: 2 Onotos, vintage Senator, Wahl Gold Seal Doric, Pelikan 140, three Pelikan 100s, Sheaffer Snorkel, Schelleburg, MB 149.
MB L139: these are pre-war models. One has a cracked feed and the other one barrel is broken in half. Time frame: feed 1-2 hours, barrel 3-4 hours.
There are a bunch of Vacs and sacs. Roger is much more efficient at these than I am. I think Roger is looking at 70-80 repair jobs at this time. The ones I have here need crack repairs. After completing a repair, I then adjust the ink flow and set the nib. The pen is then polished and ready for shipment. We ship 2-3 times a week. Everything I have here will be done in about a month, maybe a little less. Now here is the catch: when I give a time frame of 1-2 hours that's an average. Some seals end up taking ½ hour and another one can take 3-4 hours. During the summer after several of the big pen shows, our time frame was running to something like six weeks. We managed to clear up most of that work. Here's is what I am planning to do for Penopoly: every couple of weeks or so, I will post on the various Boards the current time frame for repairs.
It took me a long time to figure out what aspect of pens I enjoy most, what is my focus and there is no question that its in the technical/repair/restoration side. BTW, I should mention that I do have a F/T career: I am a historian and a tenured college professor with a specialization in US science and technology in the early part of the 20th century. You should hardly be surprised to find that writing equipment is an important part of my research. Sorry about the lengthy post, although I thought a few folks might be interested in some of these details. |
| Parker Duofold Rollerballs
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11/12/2001: Rod Grimes |
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Recently, I have started a collection of Parker Duofold Rollerballs. I want to expand my collection and need information on other collectors, dealers, pen shows, and outlets. Anyone who can provide any of this information to me will be greatly appreciated.
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| Montegrappa
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11/12/2001: Rick |
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I would like all of you to know that my true love over the years has been my library and, notably, my collection of rare first editions. Fountain pens is an associated item so it is predictable I guess that I would become interested. And I wish there was a bulletin board for the type of book collecting that comes close to this board. I have always gotten good responses to the few questions I have asked and I am impressed with this board.
That having been said, I have another question. I got this Montegrappa pen on eBay. I didn't expect to get it but I did. It is called the "Elmo". I don't see this pen anywhere in catalogues or on-line. Does anyone know anything about it? I am considering giving it to my son for college graduation next May. Thanks in advance. Rick |
| Supplement to the Parker 75 website update for Nov 2001
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11/12/2001: Lih-Tah Wong |
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Greetings Penlovers!
As I indicated in my update post from last week, I was planning to supplement the November update to my Parker 75 website with new material from the Columbus Pen Show. I have just completed and uploaded the supplement. With this supplement, the November update is now complete.
For those of you who are fans of the Parker 75s, here's a few item that have been added since the pen show of Nov 2-4.
- Unusual blue colored 75 section and another one with
two chrome bands.
- Side-by-side comparison photos of the later French 18K
nibs in exotic, the very same that are for sale on my parts
page of the Exchange section.
- Unusual tassies that are not quite flat as it has slight
outside bow.
- Parker document with engineering details of the cap inscrip-
tion including proof of the date code legend.
and many more interesting items!
Come by and visit if you have any interest in the Parker 75s!
Regards,
Lih-Tah Wong
www.Parker75.com
PS: The 12th Annual Michigan Pen Show is coming in less than four weeks! Mark your calendars for Dec 6-9 with Saturday and Sunday being days the show is open to the public. For more info, please visit http://www.michpens.com.
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| Jeremiah Trafford Contact
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11/12/2001: Saul |
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I have not suffered through having a pen "missing in action" with no response to my pleas. So it may
not be for me to "lecture" those who have or who are still. However, I do know that in real life, there
are often extenuating circumstances that sometimes do not even come to light until weeks, months,
or years later. I am sad to see this conflict within what I refer to as our tight little family of pen
enthusiasts (fanatics? Yes!). If the "victim" in this case were Mont Bland, I might have less trouble,
since they seem to be more concerned with volume than quality, or real pen devotion. But Jeremiah
has never, to my knowledge indicated such a tendency. I feel bad for my pen friends who are
suffering. But I counsel, encourage, nay PLEAD for a little petience while we try to find out what is
happening and look for a better solution for all. If I had dozens of acceptable pens, I would willingly
offer them as loaners to tide them over. But please, let us all try to be more patient with each other.
We have seen what happens when patience is supplanted by blind anger, haven't we? We never
know what someone is experiencing until we have walked a mile in their moccassins.
Please feel free to respond on the board or by e-mail. |
| New Old Stock Parkers for SALE!
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11/11/2001: Jon Rosenbaum |
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I have the following new old stock pens available:
1. Parker 75 Cisele sterling silver french-made with medium nib (triangular section) $115 including shipping.
2. Parker 75 Cisele sterling silver french-made with BROAD nib (triangular section) $135 inc. shipping
3. Parker Classic 75 Ballpint (clicker button actuated) in VERMEIL USA made--this is the last one I will ever be able to get. Once this one goes there will be no more. $96 including shipping
4. Parker New Style (broad banded cap) Sonnet in Red Laque--fine nib, absolutely stunning! $100 inc shipping.
No boxes, but the 75's come with converters and the little wrenches to adjust the nibs. They are all perfect. First confirming email wins. Insurance, if desired is extra. Thanks Jon R |
| White Stuff??
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11/11/2001: White Stuff |
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Sounds like white ink. Some of you may be interested in old photos, as am I. Back in the "old days" people would put their photos in albums with black pages. They would often caption and/or describe the photos using white ink. This may explain the pens that you see with the "white stuff". I usually soak the "white" laden pen parts in 409. This also works well to remove the gold color often placed in names engraved on pens. Takes 10-15 minutes of soaking plus your old tooth brush. |
| 12/2 Pen Club Meeting and Auction
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11/11/2001: Lee Chait |
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The December 2 meeting of the Southeast Pen Collectors' Club will include our annual auction. Meeting starts at 2pm at Jimmy Dolive's Total Office Products in Smyrna Ga.. Email for directions or further information.
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| White Stuff????
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11/11/2001: Michael P. Clague |
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Every so often, I find an old pen that seems to be gunked up with a white looking substance ( reminds me of " white out " ). Was there an ink product from the past that broke down and turned into this???? Anyone know anything about this?
Best,
Michael |
| Wahl OS Section
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11/11/2001: Michael P. Clague |
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I have a neat late 1920's Wahl Eversharp Gold Seal Flat-top pen with the nib that screws into the section - The section is damaged and I need a replacement - If you have a section that you wish to sell or maybe trade for some part that you need that I may have, email me - mpcac@ncn.net - Thanks, Michael |
| Chicago Pen Club meeting
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11/11/2001: Len Provisor |
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We had our meeting Saturday, with a private sunny space cleared for us by our host Borders bookstore.
What's neat our pen club meeting is our small group sitting at a table showing and sharing what we have. Don Lavin brought some incredible pens, including a prototype Mandarin flat top Duofold with black bands on the cap. Ken Smoot survived his Mexican auto race, he brought a prototype Parker Challenger in a golden brown swirl celluloid with a Patrician-type pierced cap band. It was a Challenger alright, but smacked of LeBoeuf. Ernesto Soler is quickly becoming the local authority on Parker "51"s with great demo samples I have never seen. Roger Wooten came in from Rockford with his near mint collection of Sheaffer flat tops, including one with the first super flexible nib I've ever seen on a Sheaffer Lifetime. Jim Ryan, a retired Judge, happily spending his time traveling the midwest antiquing is the most understated and modest collector I've ever met. Walks slow, speaks little, and finds an incredible amount of pens. Herb Schulz was showing off his super sexy flexy Pelikans.
Oh yes, I brought in a few pens I just found a few days ago. A kinda rare Parker combo pen/pencil in bronze/gold fleck...and a c1910 #10 Parker mottled cable twist eyedropper. One of my best finds ever.
Next meeting will be Sat. Dec 8 2pm, the location to be announced. |
| display pens
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11/10/2001: k rath |
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Does anyone have an idea of how to display parker pen (shadow box, etc)? |
| Parker Classic Special Edition-update
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11/10/2001: Rob |
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My apologies.The special edition Parker 75 Classic sterling silver ball pens were made in 1968 not 1972. |
| Montblanc ramses or Nikoli
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11/10/2001: Sam |
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I am need of purchasing a Montblanc Ramses II or a Czar Nikoli FP as soon as possible. Anyone know of a good dealer?
Thanks |
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11/10/2001: Larry Again |
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FOR SALE: Visconti "Blond 'n Brown" Celluloid (old style) Ragtime. Piston fill. 14 kt. med. nib. Filled, but never carried. Near mint. $140.00 including shipping (USA only). I'll be off-line 11/14 til 11/18.
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11/10/2001: Larry |
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FOR SALE: Omas 360 (yellow) with rhodium trim and 75th Anniversary markings. Fine nib. Filled, but never carried. With original box. $160.00 including shipping (USA only). Please respond by e-mail. I'll be on vacation and off line Nov 14-18. |
| Saturno For Sale
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11/10/2001: Larry |
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For sale: Stipula Saturno Crescent Filler FP. Med. nib.Perfect ink flow. Dark green/black ebonite. Filled, but never carried. Near mint. Original Box. $170.00 including shipping (USA only).
Thanks, Larry |
| pens for sale
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11/10/2001: jeff peirce |
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I have the following pens for sale:
Stipula I Castoni, white, fine later styled nib $75
Stipula Baracca fine nib $100
Stipula 22, white, fine nib, $100
Rotring Initial , blue, fine nib, $50
Waterman LaTalon, fine italic nib,
green, $50 |
| Last Day of Special Offer
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11/10/2001: Esther |
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Today is the last day of our special offer - "Israel's 50th Anniversary" Parker Centennial LE at $400, with a free gift worth about $40. As of tomorrow, the price will be $495, just for the pen. On 1/1/2002 the price will be raised to $525. Only a handful of these pens are available. Dealer prices are available on purchases of five pens or more. Additionally, we have great prices on Duofold's, which make very nice holiday presents. Jade International FP for $125. Jade and Jasper Pencils for $75. Jasper RB for $100. Jade FP and Pencil set for $180. Thank you. |
| Re: Parker Jotters
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11/10/2001: Dean |
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K Rath; Better take a look at the turquoise ones that I just added to Pendemoniums Website. They will probably go fast. Just click on their banner when it appears above and look in writing instruments under Parker. Dean |
| Re: Flame to Me from Jim B (a pseudonym) who wishes to remain anonymous
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11/10/2001: Jim Mamoulides |
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To Mr. B at (aaa@bbb.com - very clever!), I won't waste any more bandwidth on the message board after this note. I do want to point out that you are obviously the type of flamer who used to be all too common on the Newsgroups. You are someone who must want attention and create it through personal attacks on people in order to create controversy. If you were to act this way in one of our pen clubs, you would definitely be asked to leave, and considering the tone you use, you might find yourself physically removed and barred from returning. As is typical with your type of flamer, you get your facts mixed up, take an indignant posture, resort to name calling, and take any attempt at discussion as grounds for a screaming presonal assault. Who are you trying to defend? BTW - I ask this rhetorically, as I don't expect an intelligent or reasoned answer. I think if you would read previous posts, you would discover (surprise!) that the original eBay lister, Shanin Burke, was not upset about David's concern, but was "outraged" at the lister on Penbid. Shanin was pleased with the action Penbid took. Is Shanin the "innocent" person you are so concerned about? Or perhaps are you concerned about the reputation of the "dealer" that Penbid shut out? Please don't answer that, it's not worth the time to wade through any insulting retorts from you. Also, thank you very much for beginning your discourse by refering to me in such a complimentary way. And, for the record, I am not a lawyer, though I presume your accusation is to point out that I write carefully and precisely, a compliment I will gladly accept! As to my political leanings, isn't that for another type of board? Thanks for the lovely chat! Do disappear, won't you? Cheers, Jim Mamoulides |
| Scamsters Shysters and Kudos to Dr Dave for saving the snake seller and the innocent
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11/10/2001: Dov R |
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Kudos to Dr David and all the others who "outed" this pen Fraudster. Shame on Ebay and Good Work penbid. To the "anonomous" flamester - you are just ass bad as the the shysters out there. A frustrated dealer, a sad little person who gets his rocks off cussing bad mouthing others? I don't know you as none of us do - you can recant by appologysing to Dr Isaacson, whio is a crredit to the hobby.
Bob, your email interested me.. Does your posting and experience mean that no-one can post "anonomously" despite third party and/or internet cafe`s, diff ISP relayers, anonomyzing programs. What you say is that it's all there like a fingerprint. Comp buff friend of mine tells me his mates can get into any computer and no- one will know where it comes from. The net is a great but also dangerous thing. Like life, there are all types out there, the good the bad, the in between. Of course it's good to be street wise under all cicumstances.
The pen fraternity is a nice friendly and generally open bunch of people. The occasional scam artist, shyster and plain crook is few and far between but Ebay has become a breeding ground for those out to make a quick and sometimes not so honest buck.
My 2c worth.
Dov |
| Flaming Rants
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11/10/2001: Bob Frank |
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message to "Jim B" : I AM a lawyer, and I can tell you my office, on a regular basis, tracks "anonymous" emailers who think they are invisible. When we catch up with them the look of dumb surprise on their faces is only matched by the look of pain when they realise their stupidity in defaming or hurting people has caused them to lose a lot of money. We even caught up with a guy who used a 3rd party computer & anonimiser software , remember if you send an email it's as good as a fingerprint. You have been warned........ |
| Parker Classic Special Edition
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11/10/2001: Rob |
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Does anyone know of any source for one of the 1972 special edition Parker Classic ball pens in sterling silver that commemorated the ten year anniversary of John Glenn's 1962 orbital flight? |
| parker jotter
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11/9/2001: k rath |
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Looking for Parker Jotters pens outside the common dark blue, red, green, gray, and silver colors. |
| lobotomy blues
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11/9/2001: einv |
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is that an ink bottle in front of me or do i need a frontal lobotomy? |
| Geeezz
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11/9/2001: Will Thorpe |
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and I thought this board would boring after Frank left! |
| Chicago Pen Club meeting
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11/9/2001: Len Provisor |
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Reminder : Meeting tomorrow,this Sat. at 2pm Borders bookstore in Deerfield, IL Lake-Cook and Waukegan Rods, SE corner. Meeting is UPSTAIRS, not in the coffee shop.
Our friend Dr Isaacson is invited as honored guest speaker, I understand he is available for pro bono lobotomy procedures for those in need. Nominations? |
| Jim Mamoulides
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11/9/2001: Jim B |
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You are an idiot! You liberal jerks think that "for the benefit of protecting bla bla, or some other junk" you are allowed to smear innocent people. Maybe he (david i, as he puts it) saved some stupid buyers from an OBVIOUS fraud. But he also hurt a legitimate one. And you "advocates" hypoctrites are always there to protect them. You are a lawyer, aren't you? |
| 'Snake ...' & Dr. Isaacson Flames
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11/9/2001: Jim Mamoulides |
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My thanks to Dr. Isaacson for pointing out a fraud to the community. In re-reading his post, he was very careful in his statements. He should be commended along with the others who helped to track this down. This is the community looking out for itself in a very positive way. David, please continue to do this! As to the unsigned flames, what a cowardly, uncivil, and shameful thing to do. Leave this sort of thing on the playground with the single digit children. My dog has better manners. Cheers, Jim Mamoulides |
| Pan-Pacific Pen Club meeting - tomorrow (11/10)
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11/9/2001: Jim Griffiths |
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Hello all,
One last reminder that tomorrow is the next Pan-Pacific Pen Club meeting. If you are in the Bay Area, and would like to attend, please contact me for details.
Kindest regards,
Jim Griffiths |
| Legacy CP4 HOLIDAY OFFER!
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11/9/2001: Andreas Lambrou |
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Dear Colleagues,
Our Sheaffer Legacy CP4 Civil War pens have given faithful service and pleasure to hundreds of pen lovers around the world. They are crafted out of sterling silver with exclusive guilloche engravings by the master craftsman, Marc Murelli. And they carry the Sheaffer warranty and after sales service. Sheaffer produced for us just 500 sets world-wide and the series is nearing completion.
We are making available to you these fountain pens for the Christmas Holidays. Nib grades in Extra Fine, Fine, Medium and Broad. We also have just a few Stub, which Sheaffer is so famous for. These will be offered on a 'first come, first served' basis. I will customize the nib grade of your choice to your writing requirements for optimum performance. We offer the CP4 pens either in the Classic Pens hand crafted presentation gift boxes or in quality Sheaffer boxes. For our best prices, please contact us back channel.
Below are three testimonials on the CP4s from well known and respected pen lovers who are active on several boards.
" It has been my pleasure to use a stunning Sheaffer CP4 Richmond fitted with a broad stub nib. I have owned several other Sheaffer CP4 fountain pens which have been passed to appreciative collectors. The fit and finish of this solid-silver pen are superb. I count it amongst my favorite modern fountain pens"
David Isaacson.
"If you don't already have one I would STRONGLY recommend the Classic Pens CP4 Legacy pens. These are absolutely beautiful sterling silver pens with
some of the most unusual and distinctive guilloche patterns. The Richmond is a soft, flowing design, almost like a garland, while the Washington is a sharper fine diamond type pattern. They are beautiful in pictures but stunning to behold in the flesh. Very intricate and they sparkle in the light. They're based on the previous model Legacy, which means they're eminently usable as everyday writers (one of mine is almost always in rotation) and can be had with the wide variety of point sizes Sheaffer currently offers. They're versatile, using cartridges, converters, or the touchdown filler. They're well sized and perfectly balanced- great to use!
Plus they're backed by Sheaffer service. They're great pens and phenomonal deals as well. I have both and they are valued pens in my collection and great users, too.
Oddly enough, I spent some time speaking with some collectors (including Dave Isaacson) over lunch in Columbus. We pretty much decided that the CP4s were about the best thing going."
Douglas Vicary
"Ironically, what I like most about them would seem contradictory for anything other than a good fountain pen. When I take them out of the case, I can't help but take a second or two to admire the beauty and craftsmanship of the pens and I've never taken one out in front of someone who didn't notice the same. So they're real attention getters.
At the same time, when using one, as the silver warms to my hand, the pen seems to disappear as I'm writing. It's as though it just melts into being an extension of my hand. That's what I consider to be the ultimate purpose for using a fine pen.
So I guess you could say that the CP4's have given me the best of both worlds -- pens which are beautiful when being observed, but still fulfill the purpose of a great writing instrument -- to make writing as effortless as possible so thoughts and ideas become my focus, not the mechanics of recording them.
I can honestly tell you that if (Providence forbid), I had to choose only one pen from my collection to keep, the only hard part would be Washington or Richmond."
Felicia Fontaine, M.Ed., NCC, LPC
The Sheaffer Legacy CP4 Civil War pens -- Washington & Richmond. Faithful every day workers and future heirlooms.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Andy Lambrou
Classic Pens Inc.
Los Angeles, CA 90048-4609 USA
Tel: + USA (1) 323 658 7367 Fax: + USA (1) 323 658 8886
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| 'Snake ...'
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11/9/2001: Andreas Lambrou |
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You have done well for the pen fraternity, David. And for the dealer who has pestered you, I would say this, "With this attitude, you will go a long way and as far as I am concerned, the further, the better!". Andy Lambrou |
| 'Snake ... '
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11/9/2001: Andreas Lambrou |
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You have done well for the pen fraternity, David. And for the dealer who has pestered you, I would say this, "With this attitude, you will go a long way and as far as I am concerned, the further, the better!".
Andy Lambrou |
| final note on this subject
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11/9/2001: Dr. D |
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To answer question... those who hide their names fear themselves and perhaps communal castigation of their own shallow notions. I'm just a lovable little bunny wabbit. No one fears me. But i don't fear myself either or fear my own particular shallow notions or fear risking castigation for "my" views which are quite non-anonymous. Which be why i post my name to my ideas. Certainly you do not "need" to give me your name. Clearly your needs go far deeper than any need to post your name. Heh heh heh (wow- a triple "heh"). But your post has served a purpose. Made me realize this snake thing was a good outcome. Hope i someday get chance again to help. Your comments have only further weakened case of seller. Now, as is best approach to cranky threads on this typically civil newsgroup- i am signing off. Say whatcha will, my fine feathered friend. I will be entertained but will let you speak to yourself. Too bad your posts had to hurt the seller further. But i wish him no ill, so will post no more. |
| WTB MB Imperial Dragon Fountain Pen
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11/8/2001: pete |
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Looking to purchase the Montblanc Imperial Dragon Fountain pen. Willing to look at both the silver clasp edition and the 888 Vermeil edition. Please email me with your fp description, condition, nib size, serial number and price. |
| Agatha
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11/8/2001: Esther |
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Does anyone have a good idea about going prices of MB Agatha FP's and sets of three? Thank you. |
| Hypocracy = david i
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11/8/2001: |
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Look who's talking about chickens. You are a self righteous hypocrite. Pretending to be the big protector of the public. “If I only saved one soul...”. Thank you, how could we live without you? You should have checked with the seller before casting doubts, as I said before. The likes of you have no respect for anyone else but yourself. Finally, I don’t need to give you my name. What if I did, should I be afraid of you? |
| More NOS pens FS, more reduced to clear
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11/8/2001: Scott |
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Here are a few more new NOS items, along with reduced prices on some remaining items. They are mostly mint NOS pens, FP's unless noted otherwise, including some interesting low-priced items that were not available in the US market. FREE SHIPPING to US addresses included, other countries at cost. Feel free to make an offer on multiple items. I accept checks or money orders, and although I don't have scans, I can try to answer your questions or provide more information at smmrfld@aol.com.
1) Unusual transitional model Parker 61/45, circa 1970's, 61-style cap, 45-style nib and barrel, goldplated cap, blue barrel, medium nib, remainder of original chalk mark still on barrel, NOS, perfect, $65
2) Mont Blanc Classic FP, NOS, circa 1970's, medium gold nib, burgundy cap and barrel, uninked, perfect, $75
3) Scripto School Pack with FP and pencil, cartridge, lead, blister packed, never opened, circa 1960, transparent red barrel w/chrome cap, $5
4) Unusual European Market Parker, similar to model 15, steel M nib, NOS, new, uninked, perfect, black barrel, brushed chrome cap, interesting uncommon model, great stocking stuffer for Parker collectors, REDUCED $8
5) Waterman Pro Graduate FP, F goldplated nib, w/gift box and outer sleeve, not sold in US market, blue marbled, mint, perfect, NOS, uninked, REDUCED NOW $15
6) Lot of 5 Pilot Varsity disposable FP's, brand new, $3 retail each, hot pink ink, black barrels, great cheap gift idea to get kids interested in FP's, REDUCED NOW $5 per lot (two lots available)
7) Pentalic Mark X Piston Filler, black plastic, German-made, great writers, NOS w/sticker, choice of screw-in medium standard nib or 1.5mm italic nib, perfect, as new, NOS in original shopworn plastic cases (2 left), $7 each
8) Senator Windsor, blue marbled w/black, new, perfect, never inked or dipped, m nib, REDUCED $14
9) Welsh 160, ca. 1946, NOS, w/sticker, M nib, green pearl stripe w/ black cap,
other colors available if interested, $12
10) Lamy Safari Charcoal mint, new w/sticker, med nib, boxed, w/convertor, REDUCED $15
11) Sheaffer School Pens, NOS, gift boxed w/two cartridges per pen, m nibs, great gifts for would-be fountain pen fans, lot of TWO pens, two assorted colors (choice of red, green, blue, turquoise), $9 per lot. |
| Parker 51 Flighter For Sale.
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11/8/2001: Douglas Vinayak |
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Available is a nice clean Parker 51 Flighter ( stainless steel cap and barrel ) in excellent shape. Medium point, and works well and writes great! No Dings. 250.00 obo |
| Avoiding frauds
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11/8/2001: Carlos |
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I believe that fellow collectors should give each other a "heads up" when it comes to dealing with individuals not commonly known in the pen community. My own unfortunate experience occured when I dealt with a Canadian seller. He did not deliver the pens I ordered. After 8 months I finally got a check. The check bounced. |
| WTB Duofold Jr. cap
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11/8/2001: Randy |
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Helping a friend in need of a duofold jr "red" cap. His has lip cracks and he is afraid to use it. Could be without the clip, top etc, just the barrel part of the cap needed.
Reply backline (RAClifford@aol.com)
thanks, randy |
| PenBookmarks Links Site Updated 11/08/01
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11/8/2001: Jim Mamoulides |
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Fellow Penlovers,
Made a fairly extensive update of the PenBookmarks site today.
1. Pen Makers - 95 Links, 2 New
2. Pen Dealers - New and Vintage - 176 Links, 3 New
3. Pen Repair - 19 Links, 1 New
4. Pen Information and Collector Links - 38 Links, 15 New
5. Pen Discussions - 12 Links, 4 New
6. Ink - 5 Links, 1 New
Nearly 350 links total!
There are many, many more links I have to add, but I had to stop to eat and
do the job that pays my bills!
Please feel free to link to the site.
If you link to the site, the link is:
http://www.penhero.com/PenBookmarks.htm
Please send me any updates you may have. There is an email link at the top
of the page.
Comments are nice, too!
Over 2,000 hits in 6 weeks! Thanks!
Cheers,
Jim Mamoulides
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| Neptune, Lord of the Sea
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11/8/2001: Allen Gross |
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If you go to the main page of Stylophiles and tab down, you'll see a review of this new release. Pens Plus is the exclusive agent for Bob Hergert, a master scrimshander, who is doing limited edition and one of a kind pens for us. The work is scrimshaw on mother of pearl and the quality is unsurpassed. Please take a minute to read the review and view the detailed photos. The edition of only twenty pens is quickly selling out and delivery will start in about 10 days, thanks Allen |
| Research Triangle Pen Club (NC) Meeting Sunday Nov 18, 2 PM
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11/8/2001: Ross |
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The next meeting of the Triangle Pen Club will be Sunday, November 18, at 2:00, at the Mad Hatter in Erwin Square (First Union Tower) 2200 West Main Street in Durham. Theme will be "my number one favorite modern pen" and "my number one favorite vintage pen" - although it's okay to bring a few to share. Expect to explain why it's the top. I'll bring paper and Quink, as usual. Hope to see you there! Visitors are always welcome - no fees, no initiation rites - just folks who enjoy pens. |
| Parker Snake Follow UP
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11/7/2001: David I |
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Hello again. Received a polite and concerned letter from Shanin about his Snake pen on ebay. He apparently is the person with the original ad for the Snake pen- the ad on ebay- the one noted to be the more likely of the two to be the real ad. I certainly wish Shanin the best with this key Parker rarity. No doubt this will sell well. Regards. David |
| der fraudmeister
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11/7/2001: david i |
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Let us address the anonymous slam first, perhaps. Always interesting when someone too chick-chick-chicken to sign his own name slams someone for some perceived slight. Funnier still when someone hides his name while impugning someone else's integrity or honesty. Heh. Great entertainment after a busy day. Here is the quote ***Before you smear someone, or at best, raise doubts about their legitimacy, you should do the honest thing - contact
the seller. Your irresponsible and shameful behavior may cause some decent persons to loose money without any
justification.****** Well, Penbid seemed appreciative of our community's honest attempt to prevent fraud. So do quite a number of folk who have emailed about this subject. Shame?? Dream on. If i helped (will never know) one pen bidder avoid the scam that trapped a few last time around then i am proud to have had chance to help. Will do so again should opportunity arise. I sure hope this post was by a cranky flamer who has nothing to do with Shanin. Be a shame to muddle Shanin's better-voiced concerns with the cranky flamer's. best david |
| KRONE'S SHOGUN IS HERE
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11/7/2001: Maryann at PenstopOnline |
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Greetings:
I have just listed some really great images of the new Krone Shogun on our website.
This is one magnificent pen, a true Work of Art in the traditional Maki-E process.
This is a limited edition of only 88 pieces Worldwide in the magnum size available for immediate delivery.
Worth everyone taking a peek at a pen you may not have the opportunity to see.
Click on the link above to see this magnificent pen. |
| Parker Snake Pen
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11/7/2001: Shanin Burke |
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I posted a message here earlier and it already has disappeared, but I do not know why. I am the original ebay listing party of the authentic pen. I contacted ebay and penbid.com when the fictitious auction was brought to my attention. Penbid removed it immediately and issued a statement. Ebay has done nothing. I am willing to send more photos to any interested parties, I am outraged of being a victim of such a scam. The pictures were stolen from us by using the ebay Picture Services system. The logo is in the lower right corner of the pictures. I hope those of you in the pen community can assist us. Thank you!!! |
| Parker Snake Pen
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11/7/2001: Shanin Burke |
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I am the individual who listed the Parker Snake Pen on ebay and it is authentic. I am willing to take more pictures and send them to anyone who is a serious bidder for this item. The whole incident with the fraudulent bidder was brought to our attention by a fellow ebayer who informed us early 11/6/01 of the fraudulent auction on the Penbid.com site.
We contacted ebay who by email in response was not willing to do anything as this was not their site. We made it clear to them it was obvious that it was our picture as it has the ebay Picture Services trademark in the lower right corner of the picture.
Penbid.com, however, acted swiftly and with much integrity to our email by closing the auction immediately and posting a notice on the auction site.
We have further contacted ebay to issue a statement on our own site, but have not yet received a reply.
We our outraged by this entire episode. It is unfortunate that there are those out there who are subjecting innocent people to such scams.
We appreciate the pen communities support and networking with regard to such a rare and coveted collectible. |
| david i Fraud???
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11/7/2001: |
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Before you smear someone, or at best, raise doubts about their legitimacy, you should do the honest thing - contact the seller. Your irresponsible and shameful behavior may cause some decent persons to loose money without any justification. |
| Charles Dickens - sealed set!
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11/7/2001: Michelle King |
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I have a brand new sealed Charles Dickens Set.$1,500 Free shipping in USA. Can ship anywhere!
Also Fountain (medium) $750
Ball Point $375
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| venetian glass pen
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11/7/2001: Gary |
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Hi,
my wife has expressed interest in a Venetian pen we saw in a shoppe, but she did not like the secondary color ( the pen was blue, but had an orange design. the blue was ok).
Can anyone suggest resources on these kinds of pens. thanks
Gary |
| Leaky pen
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11/7/2001: Mark |
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Hi:
I'm new to fountain pens and just received one that has a minka nib and a piston resevoir by Mont Blanc and no marks on the pen. Anyways I couldn't draw ink with the piston until i soaked it in water and did some cleaning. I got the piston to draw ink, happily did some writing and then put the pen away capped and standing nib down. Next morning there's a pool of ink in the cap. What's wrong? Thanks |
| Novello Vitis and Novello wine
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11/7/2001: Susanna |
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Yesterday in Italy it was the official first day for opening and drinking the "Novello" (in italian, it's the new young wine, the wine made fron 2001's grapes): so, if you're thinking at the Marlen Vitis, you MUST choose the Novello color! Moreover, the pen will not go bad in springtime... :-).......WWW.PENS.IT........ |
| Re: Follow up to: What's my vacumatic worth? (R. Sedan)
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11/6/2001: Richard |
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The pen is black. The barrel is made with those transparent bands (now discolored by age and ink staining) so that the user could hold the pen up to the light and see how much ink was in it. If the pen were in near-mint condition, it might be worth between $75 and $90. You don't indicate what kind of nib (fine, medium, stub, firm, flex, etc.) it has, whether there is any brassing (worn-through gold), or whether the pen is in working order. These aspects will affect its value; if it's restorable but needing a fair amount of work, I wouldn't pay more than $45 or $50 for it. (Other colors are worth more.) Hope this helps. |
| Re: FRAUD ALERT PARKER SNAKE PEN (david i)
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11/6/2001: Richard |
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I sent mail to Penbid about this auction, and they replied saying that they have canceled the fraudulent auction. They said also that the same criminal tried the same trick last week but that they have not yet been able to track down his identity because he is actually in Bulgaria and is registering using credit cards that are apparently stolen. They ask all Penbid users to be on the alert for more of his shenanigans. |
| Pen Shows
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11/6/2001: Lee Chait |
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My thanks to Terry and Sonya for their always gracious hospitality and a great show. I decided two years ago to make it a drive trip and it works out well.
Skipped the pizza (didn't miss the dessert party though) for a great meal at the Columbus Fish Market and in between the poker; World Series; and eating managed to locate a Titanium 75 without the usual T-1 barrel jewel; several nice prototype jotters/classics; and a couple of hard to find 75's including a Damier and Fugere set.
Got to visit with a lot of friends. We missed Ken Jones (at least for minute or two) and Dr. I who gave up poker one night for sleep and left Bert Heiserman (who filled in Dr.) to clean up the money. Bert was such a big winner we made it a handicap game and wouldn't let him leave to take his medication.
During the Columbus Show I was pleasantly surprised to learn that Jimmy Dolive will be actively involved in the Atlanta Pen Show in March. I have canceled my previously scheduled root canal which would have been less painful the the last couple of Atlanta Shows. With a professional pen person like Jimmy involved I expect this Show to quickly assume a top ranking among dealers and collectors alike. He will make the effort that is necessary to turn the Show around.
Look forward to seeing you all there.
It's off to Detroit next (weather permitting). |
| Parker 75 website update for November 2001
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11/6/2001: Lih-Tah Wong |
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Greetings Penlovers!
For those of you who are fans of the Parker 75s, I did manage to update my website on Oct 31st but I didn't announce it sooner. Why? Because I knew there would be more items I was going to see and add from this weekend's Columbus pen show. I will be doing this over the next few days.
In the meantime, here's what is up right now in the Reference section.
- Discussion on another branch of the 75 family tree -- the Parker T-1.
Pictures to compare that with the Titanium 75, what are the similarities
and differences.
- Sterling Godron for the Italian market in a special presentation package.
- Updated info on the Premiers and speckled laquer BP.
In the Exchange section, I have added a new "Parts for Sale" page. There are some exotic 18K French nibs with their matching sections in a variety of sizes. These will fit both the 75 and Premiers.
Check it out now, come again in a few days for even more info fresh from Columbus!
Regards,
Lih-Tah Wong
www.Parker75.com
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| MICHEL PERCHIN
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11/6/2001: Sam |
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I am looking for Michel Perchin Pens of the Fleur de Lis line. I need to buy all four colors . Please e mail me with any availability and offers |
| Parker Jotters
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11/6/2001: Rob |
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Hi all,
Can anyone help identify the different blue colors used in the Jotter in the sixties and seventies.The color I most remember is a sky bue/teal color.Not the very light blue but not the navy blue either.Having said that is there any source for new old stock on these or reasonably new used?Thanks in advance.I think the sixties version had steel threads and would be preferable. |
| WTB: Cross Century and/or Century II Medalist fountain pen
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11/6/2001: tim |
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If you have either please email me.
Thanks. |
| Ohio Pen Show
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11/6/2001: Terry Mawhorter |
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Thanks to all who attended our best show ever. All 120 plus tables were sold. We had a good turn out on Thursday afternoon and evening. I think folks enjoyed the wine and cheese as well as the "extra" food that came our way! Friday was a very busy day as is always the case at our show. We had plenty of weekend registrants. The 40 pizzas went too quick. Sorry Dick Johnson, I will personally see that you get a pizza the next time I am up your way. We had 26 radio spots on two local radio stations, five weeks of preshow display newspaper advertising to the Columbus Bar Association and Chamber of Commerce, display ads in the the Ohio Collectors Magazine and Antique Week Central and Eastern Editions plus ads in the Columbus Dispatch, Cincinnati Enquirer and Cleveland Plain Dealer. This along with our mailing list produced the best crowd on Saturday and Sunday that we have ever enjoyed. At least one major vintage/new pen dealer reported having their best show ever. I was disappointed with the auction but that was the only weak spot except for the HVAC problem on Sunday. Thanks to all of our patrons: Bexley Pen, Conklin Pen, Total Office Products/go-pens.com, PenLovers.net, Pendemonium, Inkblotters.com, Pen World and the Columbus Pen Club. A special thanks to Howard Levy and Chuck Swisher for their $2500. donation to the NYC Firefighters 911 Fund. To all our friends who came to the show under less then ideal conditions, bless you and when life seems a little hard, think of those who gave their life on September 11. |
| oops. forgot URL etiquette
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11/6/2001: david i |
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hi. sorry. on my "fraud" noticed i did publish links to the ad. While not intended certainly to enhance a sale, i think this violates Dean's policy. Apologies. Davidb |
| FRAUD ALERT PARKER SNAKE PEN
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11/6/2001: david i |
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hi.
sorry for the bold header. this might be nothing. it mite be something.
As it involves
possible fraud on a $10k+ vintage pen, i choose to alert the lists- we can sort out which
is real or bogus later.
At the moment there is a Vintage Parker Snake Pen on ebay. It has a bid of $8000 (i'm
not giving anything away with this- it is in bold header on the featured page). It is being
sold at least by a fellow in the USA who has 15 good feedback and has 5 pictures in
the ad. It is, perhaps, the real item. It's link is
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1028559332
I just noticed a PENBID sale for identical pen using IDENTICAL picture, citing a
european address and allowing only Wire Transfer, Cash etc. *****RED FLAG****
the address for the penbid item is
http://www.penbid.com/cgi-bin/auctioneer.exe?SiteId=Penbid&Item=97995.
It is possible that one or both of these are fraudulent ads, though i'd guess it is the ad
from europe that demands cash only. Of course it is possible these are both kosher and
just the picture was lifted.
But this is a 15k-or-so pen if it is crisp. We do not need our fellow collectors to be
burned on something like this. If anyone sorts out what is what, please give yell.
best regards
david
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| Re: Bromfield Pens in Boston
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11/6/2001: R. Sedan |
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About Bromfield (or is it Bromfeld) Pens store:
I've been there. Most of their stuff is discounted from full retail, but not as heavily discounted as internet sellers, understandably (they have that hefty rent bill, after all). I generally go fully informed and don't rely on their help, so i don't have too much to say about it, except that the woman is very friendly and helpful. i did look at a pelikan ad they had on the wall once, with a beautiful picture of a pen, and asked: what pen is that? the guy said, "no pen. it's just a pen. no particular pen". weird, 'cause i believe it was a pelikan 250 (i found out later) and i wanted to buy it. but no sale... |
| vac dates
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11/5/2001: david |
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Seems the last usa dated pen was 1948. Canada made them through 1953. i've seen 51, 52, 53 date codes, though never a 50 (so far) or what i can identify as a 1949 pen either. Perhaps in time. But admit to doubts about pen dated so much later. Perhaps a 52 canadian pen looking like 62 at first glance. Date codes aside, no doubt many pens sat around for many years in many shops. best. david |
| Parker Vacumatic
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11/5/2001: Raymond Wong |
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Just curious about dating Vacumatics. Most people told me that Parker stopped making Vacumatics around 1948. But I was sure I could buy brand new Vacumatics in the orient up to the early 1960s. Were these NOS I saw or was it a different market? The one I bought in early 1960s has the number 62 as date code. No dots. This is what puzzles me. Any ideas? |
| pens for sale
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11/5/2001: jeff peirce |
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I have the following pens for sale:
white Stipula 22, $100
Stipula Baracca, fine nib, $150
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| Bromfield Pens in Boston
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11/5/2001: X. Saavedra |
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Does anyone have a lot of experience with Bromfield pens in Boston? When I first went in there I felt like a kid in a candy store. But the more I interact with the guys behind the counter the more disappointed I become. The one woman who works there is great and very helpful; I basically wait until I can get her, these days. The first time I ever went in there, a long time ago, I didn't know a lot about fountain pens. I was looking for a stub nib fountain for a gift. I was immediately told "unless you want to go with a cheap $5 parker calligraphy pen, you cannot get stub nibs unless you're prepared to spend upwards of $500 or $1,000". Huh? I didn't know any better at the time, so I left and got my $50 stub nib elsewhere. Another time, I had bought a couple of pens, and asked: "What brands of ink do you like? what inks do you recommend for these pens?" The guy's response? "Ink is ink. They're all the same. All that talk about favorite inks is not true". Basically, I have yet to get anything helpful from anyone that works there, except for the one woman. It's a shame It's supposed tobe a business with "a long-running tradition". Any other opinions?
-Xa |
| FS Pelikan and Montblanc
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11/5/2001: Daniele |
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Hello! New pens for sale at "special price": Pelikan 140 and Montblanc 333 1/2. Please see:
http://digilander.iol.it/penandpencil/ Thanks! Daniele |
| WTB: each unusal filling system
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11/5/2001: Regina Martini |
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I am looking for each unusal filling system. Please feel free to contact me, if you have something. Thanks. |
| Giardino Italiano update
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11/5/2001: Susanna |
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Marlen pens in Giardino Italiano's catalog! Beautiful photos and detailed descriptions: ---------> WWW.PENS.IT <--------- |
| NOS pens FS, Great Stocking Stuffers!
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11/4/2001: Scott |
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Here are a few more new NOS items, along with reduced prices on some remaining items. They are mostly mint NOS pens, FP's unless noted otherwise, including some interesting low-priced items that were not available in the US market. Free shipping to US addresses included, other countries at cost. Feel free to make an offer on multiple items. I accept checks or money orders, and although I don't have scans, I can try to answer your questions or provide more information at smmrfld@aol.com.
1) Parker VP, NOS, mint, unused, ca. 1960, black barrel, glass filling unit intact,perfect lustraloy cap, m nib, as new REDUCED NOW $145
2) Sheaffer Glideriter Fiber Tip in unopened blister package, historical novelty or stocking stuffer for pen collector, takes FP carts, red barrel w/chrome cap, interesting nostalgia item for Sheaffer collectors, REDUCED NOW $5
3) Waterman X-Pen Junior, Black w/ribbed chrome cap, medium hooded nib, ca.1957, most of original chalk mark still on barrel, perfect, uninked, as new, REDUCED NOW $24
4) Sheaffer TM Autograph set ca. 1952, snorkel fill, black caps and barrels w/solid hallmarked 14k clip and 14K wide cap bands, dipped once, sticker still on pen nib, perfect, as new, m 14k nib, REDUCED NOW $145
5) Unusual European Market Parker, similar to model 15, steel M nib, NOS, new, uninked, perfect, black barrel, brushed chrome cap, interesting uncommon model, great stocking stuffer for Parker collectors, $9
6) Waterman Pro Graduate FP, F goldplated nib, w/gift box and outer sleeve, not sold in US market, blue marbled, mint, perfect, NOS, uninked, REDUCED NOW $17
7) Lot of 5 Pilot Varsity disposable FP's, brand new, $3 retail each, hot pink ink, black barrels, great cheap gift idea to get kids interested in FP's, REDUCED NOW $7 per lot (two lots available)
8) Pentalic Mark X Piston Filler, black plastic, NOS w/sticker, choice of screw-in medium standard nib or 1.5mm or 1.3mm italic nibs, perfect, as new, NOS in original shopworn plastic cases (6 available), $7 each
9) Diplomat Kaweco Sport, black, inked once, small size, great for pocket or purse, ca. 1996, flawless, $12
10) Senator Windsor, blue marbled w/black, new, perfect, never inked or dipped, m nib, $17
11) Welsh 160, ca. 1946, NOS, w/sticker, M nib, red/black stripe, $12
12) Same as #11 but with green pearl stripe w/ black cap, $12
13) Rotring Core Lysium FP, new, f nib, flawless, uninked, no convertor, w/cartridge, $15
14) Lamy Safari Charcoal mint, new w/sticker, med nib, boxed, w/convertor, $18 |
| Follow up to: What's my vacumatic worth?
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11/4/2001: R. Sedan |
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All right. Got more info on my vacumatic: it was manufactured in 1945. It's a blue-diamond vac, with a bit of the blue paint chipped off on the diamond. It is 5-1/16 inches long capped, 4-3/4 inches uncapped from rear to the tip of the nib. The body is 1/2 inch thick (girth) at its widest; the cap is 9/16ths of an inch thick at its widest. It has a plastic ("wartime") plunger and a stream-lined blind cap. it has the blue-diamond feathered-arrow clip, as i mentioned before with a small bit of the blue paint chipped off.
the pen appears smooth black to the unaided eye. it's in very good shape as far as i can tell, if it is supposed to be this color --very smooth without any significant scratches --just a few hard-to-see ones on the blind cap. if you hold it up to a light, it looks translucent dark amber, with dark narrow parallel lines around the body. this is the trickiest part: i have no way of knowing if it's supposed to be a dark amber translucent color and is discolored or dirty inside, or whether it is supposed to be this super dark color with a subtle amber translucence. but in any case, it is a smooth shiny dark color. any guesses as to a ballpark number for its worth? thanks to all!
-r. sedan
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| Scripto Pens
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11/4/2001: Ken |
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Interested in collection of Scripto pens or mechanical pencils w/accesssories. I have a 50'sdisplay stand that I want to embellish. |
| ingersoll pens/pencils
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11/4/2001: Ken |
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Looking for Ingersoll "dollar pens" or mechanical pencils vintage 30's. |
| FS Peliakn Nord LB |
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11/3/2001: Mark |
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Offered for sale Pelikan Nord LB in Midnight Blue, this color can not be
re-produced ever again by Pelikan. Comes with 14K Medium nib, box and the copy of the
certificate. Best reasonable offer. Thanks in advance, Mark |
| Parker Jotters |
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11/3/2001: trm |
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Looking for Parker older jotters (especially orange, grey, avocado).
Looking for Parker mini jotters. Looking for Parker matching pencils for jotters. Email
me: trmoore@ivillage.com |
| His Nibs.com update |
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11/3/2001: Norman Haase |
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Hello all! NOTE: If at any time you'd like to be removed from this update
list, kindly email me and it shall be done! Some new Hero models this week: First up is
the gorgeous Arabesque, with 14K gold nib: http://www.hisnibs.com/arabesque.htm The '200'
series of pens, based on the Parker 75 (also sporting a 14K gold nib), has a stunning new
addition -- the Treble Clef: http://www.hisnibs.com/'200'_series.htm We've introduced a
new section, the Palace, where we'll list close-outs, imperfect items and parts-pens at
especially low prices. Most notable this week is the last conch shell Dragon &
Phoenix, with a *slight* imperfection in the gold-plate on the cap band, and a single blue
celluloid from the '132' series: http://www.hisnibs.com/the_palace.htm and, don't forget
the November Special when ordering!: www.hisnibs.com/specials.htm Regards, Norman Haase
His Nibs.com www.hisnibs.com |
| Pan-Pacific Pen Club - Next Meeting |
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11/3/2001: Jim Griffiths |
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Hello all, We are one week out from our next pen club meeting (Saturday,
November 10th). If you are in Northern California, or plan to be in the area, then we
welcome your attendance. For information on the location and time, or information on the
club, please contact me at pan-pacific@home.com. Best regards, Jim Griffiths Secretary |
| Next Weekend |
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11/3/2001: John King
Tarpinian |
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If you happen to be the Greater Southern California area next weekend
don't forget to drop in at The Fountain Pen Shop's Annual Pen Fair. Established in 1922, I
believe this to be the oldest pen store in America. Fred Krinke, the owner, is the third
generation owner of the store...taking over from his father and his father before him. For
new pen fans, many manufactures and their local representatives will be in attendance with
special pricing galore. For you vintage pen fans this store has parts in better condition
than most of us have pens. Not to mention cabinets of pens that would make any collector
envious. The event will be this Friday the 9th and Saturday the 10th. The store is located
at: 2640 S. Myrtle Avenue, Unit 12 Monrovia, CA 91016-8204, USA Tel: (626) 294-9974 If you
have questions Fred can be reached at: fredspen@yahoo.com I will be helping out on both
days so if you do stop in please say hello. |
| Pens - list FINALLY updated |
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11/3/2001: Richard |
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I've finally gotten it in gear and updated my site's list of pens for
sale. Here's the condensed version of the new listings; please see
http://www.virtualcrate.com/pens/ for more information about these pens, for a complete
list of pens for sale, and for information on my repair and restoration services. --
1933/1934 Marine Green Pearl Sheaffer's Vest Pocket Lifetime Balance, round ball humped
clip, serial-numbered Lifetime F nib. Condition: B. Engraved HAIDA E. TAYLOR. Price:
$75.00 -- 1929/1930 Pearl and Black Sheaffer's Lifetime Balance, round ball humped clip,
serial-numbered Lifetime F nib. Condition: C. ENGRAVED ALBERTA B. ETTER. Price: $70.00 --
Black Lifetime Sheaffer's Balance 850, military clip, Two-tone Lifetime M nib. Condition:
B. Length: 51/8". Price: $40.00 -- Black Lifetime Sheaffer's Imperial
Cartridge/Converter filler, M nib. Condition: B-. Price: $40.00 -- NOS Maroon Sheaffer's
Touchdown "Special" 795 Snorkel, iridium-tipped steel M nib. Condition: A1.
Price: $40.00 -- 1940 Green and Gold Parker Vacumatic Striped Duofold Junior,
semi-flexible M nib. Condition: B. Price: $50.00 -- Black aerometric Parker 51, Lustraloy
cap. M stub nib. Condition: B. Price: $95.00 |
| Visconti FP |
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11/2/2001: Ray |
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Interested in purchasing any slightly used Visconti fountain
pens...please email me with any information. Tx. |
| Call for PENnant ads |
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11/2/2001: Jim
Griffiths |
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Hello all, I have joined the staff at The PENnant as the Advertising
Manager for the magazine. Why? Beats me, but Sam Fiorella sure is happy to have one less
hat to wear. In any case, we are calling for any last-minute additions to the
advertisements and classifieds sections. If you wish to buy ad space, the sizes range from
business-card size up to full pages. Here are a few of the rates for black & white
ads: Business Card - $35 Quarter Page - $65 Half Page - $100 Not bad considering that the
magazine reaches more the 1,800 dedicated collectors. Full details on ad rates can be
found at this URL: http://www.pencollectors.com/adrates.html *** PCA MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE
NOTE *** Your membership (in good standing, of course) entitles you to one free classified
ad each year (25 words max). The normal cost is $0.50 per word. If you wish to include a
classified ad in this issue, please contact me immediately. Best regards, Jim Griffiths |
| re: What's my vacumatic worth? |
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11/2/2001: Waco Johnny D |
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Anywhere from $50 to $500. We need more information. Go to Richard
Binder's pen site (http://www.virtualcrate.com/pens) then to the reference section then to
the "Dating a Vac" (or some such) and give us more details using the examples
and pics provided. We also need to know the length and girth of the pen. Vac values vary
all over the map depending on condition and size and age. WJD |
| November Stylophiles Update |
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11/2/2001: Bill R. |
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Well, we made it! Despite a certain amount of last second scrambling,
we've gotten the November articles up, including the Visconti Fortune Dragon, the New
Conklin Endura, Monteverde Intima, and more. Just follow the link from here or the home
page to Stylophiles! Bill |
| addendum to vacumatic question below |
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11/2/2001: R. Sedan |
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Addendum to the vecumatic question below: I forgot to mention the cap has
a metal band around the open end. it is a silvery or light golden color, with etched
narrow parallel lines making little triangles in alternating orientations, and it has a
small rectangular blank space which seems to be room for a monogram, though it's blank. |
| What's my vacumatic worth? |
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11/2/2001: R. Sedan |
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I'm relatively inexperienced in the hobby, and I don't know how to figure
out how much my vacumatic is worth (i have seen them on websites and the prices seem to
vary a lot according to various details). It's a parker vacumatic fountain pen. Nib seems
to be "fine" (it doesn't say), and says "Parker", and underneath, USA.
It has the parker arrow logo (the tip of the arrow is the tip of the nib). i don't know
how to tell if it's the original nib. It looks smooth black to the unaided eye, but if you
hold it up to a bright light you see it is a transluscent brown (or dark amber) color with
the narrow dark stripes going across the ink reservoir. It has the vacumatic pumping
mechanism, of course, where you unscrew the back to reveal the pump rod. It has a blue
diamond on the cap (a bit of the blue paint on the diamond has chipped off). It is fully
functional and writes perfectly well, with no leaks or anything like that. the body is
smooth and pretty much free of scratches or dents, although i have no idea if it was once
supposed to have a finish or painted surface. can i get some idea of how much this is
worth? no offers, please, just some help in knowing how much it's worth (sale or
replacement value) for future reference, insurance purposes, etc. thanks very much! -R.
Sedan |
| [ebay] AURORA IDEA fountain pen for auction |
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11/1/2001: R. Sedan |
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for auction on ebay: AURORA IDEA fountain pen. red body, fine nib, has
been inked but hardly used and is like new. at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1026990366 thanks! -r. sedan |
| Parker Duofold Ballpoint |
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11/1/2001: J. Morales |
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Looking for a Parker Duofold Ballpoint-Cap Actuated pen circa 1989 Black
in color preferably |
| Dr J S Bhandari |
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11/1/2001: Battersea Pen
Home |
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I would be grateful if anyone contemplating dealing with a Dr Jagdeep S
Bhandari from Florida would contact me prior to concluding any transaction. This person
traded on ebay as 'jsbhand01@aol.com' until de-registered and now trades as
'somebody6053@aol.com'. I believe he is a lawyer employed by the Florida Coastal School of
Law. Simon Gray Battersea Pen Home |
| Want to trade my Dostoevsky |
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11/1/2001: David Peña |
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Hello, I would like to trade my Mont Blanc Dostoevsky fountain pen for a
Delta - Israel 50th Anniversary fountain pen, fine nib if possible. I purchased my
Dostoevsky at the 1998 Chicago Pen show, brand new & factory sealed. I carefully
opened the plastic wrap, I've kept everything together, and have admired the pen a dozen
times or so. The pen has a fine nib and has never been inked or dipped. It's actually
spent less than an hour outside of it's box so it's as close to mint as possible. I never
intended it to be a regular user and at this point I would just rather trade it away for a
pen I would actually want to use as well as admire. The pen comes with ALL of the original
packaging/papers, all of it never used. I would want the Delta - Israel pen to be in the
same or very similar condition. Please contact me to discuss a trade or if you can point
me in the direction of someone interested, thanks! |
| Ohio Pen Show Update |
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11/1/2001: Maryann at
PenstopOnline |
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Hi Everyone:
We arrived in Ohio late last night just in time to get to bed. This morning bright and
early things were starting to happen. Lee Chait was already in the room when we arrived
and since then many of the regular attendees have arrived. Jimmy Dolive of Total Office,
Susan Wirth, Bert Heiserman, Warran Granick, Gary Lehrer, Allen Gross, to name just a few.
There are also some unfamiliar faces, only seen in Columbus.
From the initial looks of things this is going to be a great show. Lots of pens to buy and
lots of pen people to talk to. Tonight is the wine and cheese party compliments of Terry
and Sonya Mawhorter, the show's hosts and tomorrow is the Penlovers/Pendemonium Pizza
Party. Who could ask for more.
Anyone within driving distance don't delay, get in your car and head on over to a great
show. The weather is fantastic and the hotel is great. Don't forget, bring your NYC Pen
Show hat for the group picture and if you don't already have one, they are still available
on our website and the proceeds are still and will continue to be donated to the Twin
Tower Relief Fund for the benefit of the families of those lost in the WTC attack. We will
also have them at the show. Stop by and see us.
Maryann at PenstopOnline http://www.penstoponline.com |
| Ohio Show I go |
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11/1/2001: Dean |
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Hi-Ho, off to Ohio I go. See all you Penlovers at the Columbus Show! Be
sure to stop by the Penlovers table and say hi. Dean |
| Ohio Pen Show |
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11/1/2001: Sam -
Pendemonium |
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Sounds like many are off to the Ohio Pen Show in Columbus this weekend.
Look forward to seeing you all there! Remember, the show format has changed to a TWO DAY
show this year. We'll have ink testing all day Saturday & Sunday. Ten new designs of
our pen-friendly PenMemo pads for you to check out. Lots of vintage pens, pencils &
inkwells. Pen books, stationery (yes, you can try it out!) and a whole bunch of other pen
things.
Pendemonium & PenLovers.net are sponsoring the Pizza Party Friday night around
6:30, stop by for sustenance so you can keep looking at pens until the wee hours!
Good Collecting - Sam
On the Road! Ohio Pen Show Nov 1-5
http://www.pendemonium.com |
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