July 2002

Parker 75 - Information Please
	7/31/2002: Ralph Prather
	I am looking for information on an unusual Made in U.S.A. Parker 75 - (unique?). It may have been a prototype and or very limited production item. I have not personally ever seen or heard of a pen like this and have not been able to identify it using any reference material or site. The metal content of the cap and barrel is as follows: Cu=65%; -Copper: Ni=18%; - Nickel: and Zn=17%. – Zinc. This alloy is called “Nickel Silver 65-18” and is further categorized as UNS C75200. The pen is a bit lighter than a sterling model (early or later) and the metal does somewhat resemble the older Nickel coin which was 75% copper and 25% Nickel. Detailed pictures are available on my server – will send the addresses upon request. Any information on the specific production of this pen would be very much appreciated…..thanks, RP.

pen discoloration
	7/31/2002: einv
	clear silicone sacs may be one option to keep barrel from discoloring, while permitting daily use of the pen.

re: Discolored Pens
	7/31/2002: Waco Johnny D
	Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Light will fade plastic pens and cause rubber pens to turn brown/green. Sulfur emission from sacs cause darkening. Sulfur emits also from hard-rubber inner caps of plastic pens and causes caps to darken. Your best bet is to keep your Jade in a cool dark (but preferably not air-tight) place, away from sources of sulfur emissions such as other pens especially hard-rubber ones. Take out the sac to keep the body from darkening, and remove the cap to allow air flow around the inner cap which is rubber. Some may say this is overkill but you are almost guaranteed your pen will not change color if you follow these instructions. If you want to use the pen, so so but make sure the sac is a couple of years old so all the sulfur gas has left the rubber, and use only inks known not to stain, typically Sheaffer Skrip Washable Blue and Parker Quink Washable Blue. WJD

Discolored Pens
	7/31/2002: Gary
	What causes vintage pens to become discolored? Is it light, oils from your hand, the sac material, chemical breakdown with age, ink???I have a pristine Sheaffer Jade Flat top and want to keep it that way.

parts
	7/31/2002: Waco Johnny D
	Best thing to do would be to contact Waterman directly. Your instruction manual should have the phone number. Many online pen sites will have the numbers(s) of the various manufacturers' repair depots as well. They may ask you to send the pen to them, or they may just send you the part you need. When you finally get the new part, coat the threads with a tiny amount of orange shellac and that will keep the part in place for good. WJD

parts
	7/31/2002: Steve Riffle
	Hello, I do not collect pens, I write with them. I was given a new Waterman for Christmas 2000. The non-business end of the barrel has a little screwed on cap, finishing the end and retaining a gold decorative band. This female threaded cap is lost, and I would like to replace it. Any pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance, Steve Riffle

Miroslav Tischler bringing MIB Pelikan & MB to DC Show
	7/31/2002: Len Provisor
	Miroslav Tischler, Penkala author and avid vintage pen collector is coming to his first U.S. pen show at DC, and is bringing a load of very nice vintage Pelikans and Mont Blanc pens, some with price stickers. Pelikans in green and tortoise along with a nice mix of Mont Blancs also. He also has many other European piston fillers and early victorian pencils and some "combos". Miro will also have a limited quantity of his book Penkala Writing Instruments on sale at a Show Special price of $50. So be sure to look for Miro who will be arriving sometime on Thurs for some nice pens and books. Visit his website to learn about Penkala pens at : WWW.PENKALA.NET

Parker 75 website update
	7/30/2002: Lih-Tah Wong
	Greetings Penlovers! I have just updated the reference section of my Parker 75 website. This bimonthly update includes: - very rare 14K Tiffany Presidential FP with crosshatch grid pattern - more pictures of the Rainbow 75 FP, courtesy of Bill Riepl and Penlovers - several BPs in sterling and vermeil - Australian BP in the Imperial pattern Come take a look if you have any interest in the 75s. Regards, Lih-Tah www.Parker75.com

Parker 61-How to charge with Ink

7/30/2002: Skip Williams

You will need to force water or a 50/50 solution of water/409 cleaner (or similar) through the pen until it runs with NO ink color. I use a rubber ear bulb and fill it with very warm water or the cleaning solution. Also, I leave a newly acquired 61 pen soaking for at least over night first in the middle of the cleaning process.

After it runs clear, force all the water out. The best way is to wad up paper towels over the end and sling it downward with your arm. FYI, Parker used a centrifuge to get the water or ink out of them.

To refill, just dip the end of the filling unit in ink and it will draw the ink into the capillary filler. When I fill one, I usually dip, clean it off, then blow (by mouth) through the capillary filling end into a paper towel until ink comes out the nib. I then re-immerse the pen in ink again to fill the remainder of the filler.

You should clean it out completely with water before storing it.

Parker 61-How to charge with Ink
	7/30/2002: Yasuhiro nishiyama
	I just bought a beautiful Silver Parker 61 Fountain Pen from a Flea market in Houston, Texas. I do not understand how to charge or fill the ink. I heard that it has capillary mechanism, but how it work I do not know. Please help me with your suggestion using this bulletin board. Kind regards Dr. Nishiyama

looking for a pens
	7/30/2002: Heather
	I'v been looking for pens that have wearever med. carbide ball u.s.a. on them. I don't think they make them anymore but I thought I would try to look around.

Imprints
	7/30/2002: Peter Ford
	I use wax crayons to fill the barrel rings on the Conklin Endura. The ones I use are an industrial grade used by the Council Parking Police here to mark car tyres. Conveniently, the manufacturer I scrounged them from had both red and yellow available. Childrens crayons would probably work just as well.

re: Edson Vs. Legacy?
	7/29/2002: Waco Johnny D
	If forced to choose between the two, I'd choose the Sheaffer. The QC problems plaguing the Balance II family appear to have left the Legacy II unmolested. The Edson is WAY overpriced for what it is (well actually so are most new pens but this is an extreme case). What you get is a not-too-smooth nib and gold plating that wears off quickly. Also the Edson starts extremely slowly and reluctantly when filled after being stored dry, which may or may not concern you. Once it's running it runs okay but perhaps a little on the lean side. I am a fan of neither pen but I'd consider the Sheaffer marginally-superior. You'll get more satisfaction from either pen if you send it off to Dick Binder (richardspens.com) for proper nib shaping and smoothing after you receive it) since neither pen is anything to write home about WRT nib perparation. Now, all that being said, another alternative would be to buy an (old) Sheaffer PFM, the "real thing." There are plenty available at reasonable prices and they will hold their value over the years. WJD

final pen cabinet and other cabinets for sale soont note
	7/29/2002: david i
	My 500-pen cabinet was sold last week. I just received a quite nice "thanks" from zoss-list member Denis Deutsch, who didn't mind my quoting him..........................................................................................."David - the pen case arrived this evening and it is GREAT! The pictures and description simply did not do it justice. The oak and workmanship is as beautiful as almost any piece of furniture I've seen. While it holds almost 600 pens, it is small enough that it functions as an end table in our living room as well. Thanks much! Denis Deutsch"................................................................... I do hope to continue giving fair descriptions for items for sale. Soon i will be posting ads for slightly used Reed& Barton 66-pen case (?Mahogany) and a Woodbin/Martin Smith solid Cherry 52-pen. At that point i'll have no more wood cases save for the one monster case- which is, i guess, the idea :-) Regards. David

Edson Vs. Legacy?
	7/29/2002: Roberto
	Hi. I thought I would ask for some expert opinions on my next pen purchase. I have always wanted an Edson, dream of them no doubt, and was about to buy one until I noticed some great buys on the Sheaffer Legacy II. The nibs and general shape of the pens look, from a distance, similar. Is the Edson really worth the +/- $300? If so, why?

Update from Sailor Pen
	7/29/2002: Rob Cole
	Hello all... It's been great talking to so many of you recently. I do trust that all who have requested one, have received the new Sailor Fine Writing Catalog...? GOOD! Please let me know if I missed you. Just a reminder to all; Mr. Nagahara and we at Sailor are very excited as we grow closer to the DC pen show dates!! I wanted to confirm another opportunity to meet Nagahara for everyone; he will be performing a pen clinic at Bertram's Ink Well at the White Flint Store in Kensington, MD. 11301 Rockville Pike on Thursday August 8th from 12pm-8pm. He is absolutely beside himself to be in our nations capital! We urge anyone interested to come by. Bertram's has been most gracious and would be very happy for anyone to come by. Also, we're doing all that we can to accommodate as many as possible that plan to visit Mr. Nagahara at the show. From your many emails and calls it may become crowded so keep this in mind while planning your visit. I look forward to meeting everyone!! Please come by at the show or at Bertram's, I'd love to put names with faces and voices. We're all very excited for the opportunity. See you there!!! Rob

pen collecting
	7/29/2002: roger hartup
	i want to know more how to contact people who collect ball point pens. I want to know more how and where ideas of displaying my collection of ball point pens. I can also consider wanting to contact other penmaniacs for purposes of trading experiences and of trading.

MB Replacement Part
	7/29/2002: Rus B. Robison
	I need what I assume is called a grip for a MB 144 Fountain Pen. The threads broke on the one I have now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. My e-mail address is rbr007@swbell.net. Thank you in advance.

Parker Duofold Jasper Ballpoint
	7/29/2002: Jake
	I'm trying to find subject item, "Parker Jasper Duofold Ballpoint". So far, with negative results. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Parker 61 gold filled pen/pencil set
	7/29/2002: karian wala
	Hello all;; I have a set of Parker 61 gold filled for sell. This is in very good condition. The set is 25 years old. The fountain pen has Original capillary filler convertor to fill the ink. The nib (point) write excellent. The cap and barrel of pen/pencil are gold filled and embosed on the bottom of cap (Parker 61 gold filled USA)No personal engraving or removed engraving. The set has a gray colour Double jewel tassies , look like mother of pearl but I am not sure. Fountain pen does not have any dent or any kind of mark but pencil has two tiny dent, not a big deal. The pencil takes lead 0.7mm and a twist mechanism. the mechanism work perfectly. This is a used set with no box or case, no papers. I will sell it for $110.00 with no shipping cost to you. Thanks

Pen Imprints
	7/29/2002: Gary
	I would like to know the proper material to use to bring out the imprint on my vintage pens (rings on the Conklin Endura etc)- is it caulk, talc, paint or should I just leave it alone. Thanks

MB ALEXENDER DUMAS BP
	7/28/2002: Myron
	What is the market value to purchase the incorrect signature?

Melbourne Vintage Pens
	7/28/2002: Peter Ford
	I've just completed a last update of the Melbourne Vintage Pens website (www.vintagepens.com.au) before I start sorting out and packing for the DC Show. If you are looking for cheap modern Parkers, try the Specials Page. Obviously FREE delivery is possible to the Show!

NOS Pelikans, Watermans, Montblanc and Vintage Stuff 4 Sale
	7/28/2002: Jon Rosenbaum
	NEW OLS STOCK STUFF: Found a couple of odd Pelikans amongst the stuff I have been selling from the closed stationary/pen store. A M200 (fine nib) and D200 ballpoint (clicker actuated) in Blue. This is a set in the older clamshell plastic box, complete with papers. The pen apparently was dipped but there is no evidence that it was ever filled. The BP is pristine: $65 takes the set. A NOS R800 in Black--a perfect mate to your M800 or M1000. This is the OLD STYLE with the GF insert on the top of the cap and a GF button insert on the barrel bottom, much much nicer than the newer version. I think Pely roller refills are the best! A very elegant roller in pristine, perfect condition with clamshell box and papers: $80 takes it. Still have following Pelikan 600's: one Black X/F nib $115, one Burgundy B $130, one Burgundy F $125. Montblanc 144 M complete in "Art of Writing" box with papers--if you like MB, this is a great one. $105 takes it. Waterman Patrician Cardinal Red BALLPOINT. This is an incredible pen! (One was just grabbed using BIN on ebay at $82.50 plus insurance, postage, etc.) You can have this one, compete with gorgeous box and all papers for $79. VINTAGE: Two Patker 51 Vac fillers. Both in dove grey with excellent plus barrels and hoods--no scratches dings or cracks, no personalization, etc. One has Blue Daimond GF cap with four lines & space pattern, three very small dings in cap, fine/xf nib in working condition. No brassing. The other has a frosty lusterloy cap with one very small micro ding. This is a 1948 transition pen without blue diamond clip. Will need a new diaphram. medium nib. Take 'em both for $55. Early Black Vacumatic set (three ring) double jewel standard size. This set has not been restored, but is in very nice shape with no brassing except high point ridge on the barrel tassie of the pen--hardly noticable even under magnification. Pen has excellent imprint, date code of "27", medium fine single tone nib--very smooth. No significant scratches, etc. A gentle polish and a new diaphram will bring this baby back to life. The matching pencil's date code is "45", it shows a tiny amount of brassing on one of the cap rings. Full working condition. This is a really nice early set. much more impressive than the latter single jewel vacs of the 40's. Its yours for $79. NOTE: ALL OF THE ABOVE INCLUDE DOMESTIC USA POSTAGE. Insurance is extra. $50-100 $2.20, $101-200 $3.20, $201-300 $4.20, etc. First confirming email gets 'em. Thanks! Jon R

Wanted: Yellow Omas 360 Roller and Fountain Pen
	7/28/2002: Gary
	Hi: I am looking to purchase both the Omas 360 Roller and Fountain pen (medium or broad nib). I waited, and waited and now I understand that Omas is not selling them anymore. There must be some sitting a shelf somewhere. If you have them let me know. Thanks G. Griggs

Waterman Expert
	7/28/2002: David
	Thank You WJD You described my Expert to a tee. Yes the nib does have a cut out over the feed. I guess I have a Blue Expert 1. Thanks again. David

New pens from FILCAO
	7/28/2002: Giovanni Abrate
	Just arrived from Italy: 1. a new Calligraphy set, with a lacquered metal pen and five german calligraphy nibs in a presentation case 2. new luxury dip pens with inkwell. In rosewood or honey acrylic 3. the first Dinkie pen of the new millennium: the Forever, in celluloid or anodized aluminum. Takes International size cartridges 4. the Egiptia fountain pen in Italian rosewood 5. the best-selling Leader 1918 flat top, with 14Kt gold nibs We are keeping the old prices until September 1, 2002 in spite of price increases from the manufacturer and the higher Euro vs. US$ exchange rate. Find them at www.tryphon.it/pens Thanks, Giovanni

re: Waterman Expert
	7/28/2002: Waco Johnny D
	Yes, it's probably an Expert I. Colors were solid (maroon, black, hunter green, navy, maybe others), nibs had a cutout over the feed (can't recall whether this was a locking tab, too lazy to go into the gun safe to check one of mine). The I was a little lighter than the II. Both were/are good reliable writers. My only complaint is the clips appear to me made of (cheap) pot metal; if you accidentally bend it outwards an inch or so, such as when you get it caught on something, well, good luck bending it back w/o breaking it. I have 3 Is and 1 II, no complaints about any save for the clip mishap which was my fault (now I take cheap pens with me when I work around horses). WJD

re: Button, lever or converter
	7/28/2002: Waco Johnny D
	I'd say cartridge/converter wins that one, especially since your question WRT how the various systems work indicates you do not do your own maintenance. With a C/C pen the worst that can happen is the converter might get loose and have to be replaced ($5, big deal). Every sac-based pen will fail eventually and need to have the sac replaced; if you don't do the work yourself this will cost you the price of 5-8 converters depending on who you go to. For an answer to the question about filling systems, go to Dick Binder's site (richardspens.com), to the reference section, to the link for the filling systems. For someone who fixes his own pens the choice of filling system WRT long-term reliability is meaningless since a sac swap is a 5-minute affair at most. WJD

Old Waterman pen set
	7/28/2002: Ralph P. Tremo
	I want to find out the value of a 1929 Waterman Patrician pen set in the original box which I own. The set is in a beautiful bloodstone marbled finish, colored mustard and with dark red veins. This set is in original excellent condition. It was my father's college graduation present. He always said it was too pretty to be used in his pharmacy.

Button, lever or converter
	7/28/2002: Raymond Wong
	Can someone tell me which of the filling mechanisms is the most sturdy when one has to rinse out the pen often. Is it the button filler, the lever filler or the ordinary converter? Is there a website that explains how a button filler works? I am thinking of getting a Conway Stewart Churchill but don't know which filling mechanism to choose. I fill and rinse my pens often. Thanks in advance.

Waterman Expert
	7/27/2002: David
	I just bought a French Waterman Fountain Pen That I assumed was an Expert. The nib, although original, looks different to the Expert 11 pens I have seen. Also, the top of the cap is not two coloured just black and it is solid blue not the French Blue that is advertized. Was there an Expert 1 or a forerunner to the Expert 11. Any help would be appreciated. David

Kudos to Waterman Service!
	7/27/2002: Alan Bedrick
	Waterman Service in Janesville deserves a big pat on the back for some recent service they provided me. I sent them a Waterman Le mans pencil that needed a replacement lead advance mechanism. The pencil was atleast 15 years old. Not only did they replace the mechanism and the barrel, but the engraving of my name on the cap had lost its gold fill over time, so they filled it. The cost: ZERO DOLLARS!! New mechanism, new barrel, new engraving gold fill - all at no cost. Now that's customer service! Best, Alan

SOLID Oak Pen Cabinet Sold
	7/27/2002: David Isaacson
	Greetings. Been packing for the "final move" to NY city during last couple days. Been behind on email. Anyway, after all the interesting chat about pen cases, the darn 500-pen Cabinet i listed here a couple-three days back did sell within 24 hours and should be at the new owner's home today courtesy of UPS ground shipping to Ohio. Some followup. I had advertised it as Oak, as i purchased it as oak (ironically enough, in Ohio and as noted below, probably with Joe Nameczyk nearby. And, it certainly, at worst, would have been as much "OAk" as most of the stuff i see at the Oak & Brass stores- meaning i was not sure about the inner wood, though i knew the outer wood was not laminated. When i arrived in Rochester (i'd advertised the sale from NYCity before heading out) i examined the case. Sure enough, every drawer runner, all the facing materials, even the support struts buried out of sight, are all solid oak. It is a great cabinet in any case, and now it has a new home. I still hope to hear about the far less expensive cases cited by one writer, which cost a mere fraction of the price i'd quoted for my cabinet. But i guess that is not meant to be. I do hope to continue posting the occasional pen sale at prices guaranteed to be either way too high, just right, or way to low :-) Best regards. David

pen tray question from s.barnes
	7/27/2002: david i
	regarding where and what to find in pen trays. Gary makes great ones. In addition to the ones cut to hold ten pens, i believe he can get you a sheet that represents 4+ of these slotter trays. Also WOOD&DREAMS, whose email i lack at moment (i'm not at home) made some trays i popped in my antique Hamilton Printers Cabinet which is my new pen case. These trays hold about 40 pens each in a 12 * 15.6 inch space. Also quite nice. Maybe someone else on list has Ray's email at wooden dreams. best regards. David

His Nibs.com update
	7/27/2002: Norman Haase
	Hello all! The two new Private Reserve colors, Black Cherry and Sonic Blue arrived this week, and all of the pre-orders have shipped out. Although the new price for all of the PR inks is now $7.60, I'm continuing to sell from current stock (including the new colors) at $7.00. Now that I have the ink in hand to compare, I'd describe the Sonic Blue as a blue/black with a lighter blue component than that of Midnight Blues, whereas the Hero/Doctor blue/black (also on sale, at $4.00) tending much more toward the black end. Having always been partial to brown/sepia inks, I'm very impressed by the Black Cherry, which along with the Tanzanite and Plum, has quickly become one of my personal favorites among the Private Reserve inks. Although Copper Burst is more of a true brown, the Black Cherry has a much warmer feel to it, with its rich, red undertones. I predict that it will quickly become one of the best-sellers. http://www.hisnibs.com/ink.htm As they always seem to become hidden, due to the fact that they are several layers removed from the homepage of His Nibs, I want to once again highlight the hand-painted Hero '343' series of hooded-nib pens, which quickly become favorites of those who purchase them: http://www.hisnibs.com/'343'_series.htm Auction-wise, for eBay, please click on the following link and then type in "palace" (without the quotes) in the Single Seller box to see what's closing in the next few days: http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html For Penbid, it's also "palace" in the Search By Seller box: http://pen.luxbid.com/Auction/XcAPSearch.asp Don't forget to take advantage of the July Special when ordering pens: http://www.hisnibs.com/specials.htm Regards, Norman Haase His Nibs.com www.hisnibs.com

Question about "Mont Blanc Fountain Pen'
	7/27/2002: Anonymous
	When I have checked mont blanc homepage to find fountain pen which I saw in mont blanc shop, I was not able to find it. Ident number of the pen is 03507, and it was written MONT BLANC MEISTERESTUCK DOUE Hemalite/Steel Fountain Pen 23244 F Is this a fake?

WTB: Waterman Gentleman series Gold-Plated Barley Rollerball
	7/27/2002: Alan Bedrick
	Colleagues, anybody have a new or used Waterman Gentleman series Gold-Plated barley pattern rollerball available for sale? Thanks! Alan

What's New @ Swisher Pens
	7/27/2002: Chuck Swisher
	We have just received a shipment of the new MonteVerde "Charisma" and "Olympia" fountain pens. The Charisma fountain pens are available in 4 colors and the Olympia 5 colors. Both pens come with medium gold-plated nibs and are cartridge filled. We have also received a couple of the new Stipula "Etruria" Retractable fountain pens with your choice of a 1.1 stub or broad nib (other nib sizes on order) and matching roller balls. For photos and additional information on these new items please visit our What's New Page (there's a link to our What's New page on our Home page at www.swisherpens.com). We still have some of the Platinum Music Pens available (these are the larger pens, not the small ones). If you would like to try one of these pens before buying, we should have a few of these pens available at the DC Show (unless we sell out before the show). If you will be attending the DC Pen Show and would like for us to bring any particular item(s) displayed on our web site, just drop us a line before the 1st of August and we will gladly bring the item with us to the show. Thanks for reading, we appreciate your business and look forward to seeing all of you at the DC Pen Show this year. Best wishes, Chuck Swisher, Swisher Pens, www.swisherpens.com

Cliff Harrington
	7/27/2002: Lynn Brant
	I'm looking for an email address (or better yet a phone number) for Cliff Harrington. Any help appreciated! Thanks

INVESTING IN PENS OR
	7/27/2002: ASHOK JAIN
	RECENTELY I PURCHSED RARE OLD PHOTOGRAPHS ON INDIAN FILMS. ONLY THREE PHOTOGRAPH WERE SOLD WITH VERY GOOD PROFIT. SO IT IS ALWAYS POSSIBLE WITH COLLECTION THAT YOU MAY NOT GET THE VALUE YOU ARE EXPECTING.SAME IS HERE WITH PENS OR BOOKS.ISNT IT MARY?

INVESTING IN PENS OR ?
	7/27/2002: ASHOK JAIN
	AS A COLLECTOR OF PENS AND ANTIQUES , I FEEL THE BEST INVESTMENT IS PENS.SECOND CHOICE MAY BE BOOKS OR PAINTINGS OR WHATEVER.ONE THING IS CLEAR WITH ALL , HOW MANY OF US GOT RARE BOOKS/PENS/ANTIQUES WORTH $$$$$$$$. VERY FEW OF US.

Larger than the Pilot Emperor model?
	7/26/2002: Mary
	How many fountain pens, commercially produced, are larger than the Pilot Emperor model? ... the answer may surprise you!

investing in pens vs. movie adaptations
	7/26/2002: einv
	i think a good bit of the hype surrounding at least three of the four books below could be accounted for by recent movie adaptations of them. perhaps pens would be good investments, or at any rate, will begin to be perceived as good investments, if they were made to star in movies. however, even for an imaginative CGI filled animation movie, this idea is bound to flop for the simple reason that BIC reigns supreme, along with TV sets.

... to collect/invest in pens or books?

7/26/2002: Mary

A first edition of JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit has made history by fetching more than £40,000 at auction at Sotheby's in London. On Friday the 1937 edition sold for £43,020 including the buyer's premium - a world record for the book.

Also in the sale was a 250-lot library collection featuring a series of rare works written by the great Victorian storyteller Charles Dickens, which sold for a total of £331,000.

A Beatrix Potter first edition also fetched a high price, with one of the first 250 copies of Peter Rabbit printed by the author selling for £41,825.

A rare first edition of Pride and Prejudice has broken records for a Jane Austen book after being sold at auction for £40,000.

Refill Supplier
	7/26/2002: Mary
	If you are looking for refills, I suggest Ink Palette. Tel: 1-888-311-1025 or 1-502-361-1065. E-mail: inkdrop@iglou.com Web site address: www.inkpalette.com

Call for Best Prices
	7/26/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	Call for BEST PRICES anywhere on the following pens (very limited supply): Conway Stewart Limited Edition Churchill Fountain Pen in brown or gray - available in broad, fine or medium nib. Bexley Classique Collection Fountain Pen in Cracked Ice, Red Pearl, and Blue Marble - available in broad, fine, medium or stub nib. Pelikan Berlin Fountain Pen (green marbled) - available in medium nib only. Pelikan M200 Fountain Pen, Red Transparent - available in broad, fine or medium nib. Aurora Ipsilon Deluxe Fountain Pen in black or blue - available in fine, medium, or italic nib. Stipula Etruria Limited Edition Fountain Pen - Lynx Fur (Pearl & Black) Celluloid -available in fine only. Call and ask for Terry @ Avalon Pens @ 317-873-0470

Times Square is coming to the NYC Pen Show
	7/26/2002: Len Provisor
	Hot from the rumor mill : Times Square, a new exclusive PENSTOP/NYC Pen Show LE is coming to the NYC Show. Made especially for Maryann and Steve Zucker by a yet to be named well known pen manufacturer, not one but TWO of these pens will be donated to the show. More surprise announcements to come from prominent show exhibitors Ancora, Conklin, Delta, Sailor and Visconti. Appraisers will be available for guests to submit pens for evaluation. New and vintage pens are now being accepted for the show auction. PENSTOP Twenty-five years experience dealing in fine vintage and new pens NYC PEN SHOW ; http://www.nycpenshow.com/2002penshow.html

pelikan refills
	7/26/2002: roller king
	Itoya roller refills fit pelikans. Though not quite as good as pelikan refills they are more widely available AND much less expensive


	7/26/2002:
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Pen Cases
	7/26/2002: Lee Chait
	For those of you in need of small good looking wood and glasss countertop cases I expect to bring several to the DC Show. These are cases made for the Parker 75 but will fit any size pens and they are 16"wide x12 1/2"deep and 9"high. Still have some Parker 51 airplanes for sale and of course plenty of Parker 75's et al. See you in DC. Here is the website for the 2002 DC Pen SuperShow. http://www.pencentral.com/penshow Check it for last minute details.

Washington, DC Pen Show - Looking for PENKALA items
	7/26/2002: Len Provisor
	My want list for the Washington, DC Pen Show, besides nice pens for my vintage collection. Old advertising ink blotters or blotter catalogs, especially from fountain pen and ink companies. Store advertising items such as ceramic or porcelain figural statuary pen displays. Any vintage advertising catalogs and literature from Parker Pen Co. Any promotional products, old ink blotters, or advertising from PENKALA Penkala products were made in Zagreb, Croatia and are quite unique. Miroslav Tischler, author of PENKALA Writing Instruments will also attend the DC Pen Show. Thank you, Len Provisor www.inkblotters.com

Pelikan Roller refills
	7/25/2002: tgsponge
	I am sure it has been discussed, but what rollerball refills fit Pelikan 200,400,600? Thanks

Mint Celluloid Music Nib Pen for Knife
	7/25/2002: Jim Cook
	I have a mint, never inked, Platinum Celluloid music nib pen. I bought it from Swisher Pens years ago. I would like to trade for a Chris Reeve Knives product. Prefer large sebenza but open to other offers. I can send pics of the pen.

Stipula Etruria Fountain Pen in Amber
	7/25/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	We have a new Stipula Etruria Fountain Pen in Amber with a fine nib now available at $299.00, plus $5.00 insured UPS Ground shipping. One pen only -- the first firm email or telephone call gets the prize. Telephone 317-873-0470 or email to us at drmwvr@iquest.net.

pen trays
	7/25/2002: s barnes
	Are you aware of any pen trays to convert drawers for pen storage other than Gary Lehrer's? His look to be pretty much what I want but I would like to look at other options before purchasing. Thanks

Rolex Parker
	7/25/2002: Paul Knight
	I ahve been given a set of 2 parker pens engraved for Rolex. Thay are marked Parker sonnet france 0.1 and the other 0.11. Just wondering if they had any value at all ? thay are in a parker box and are new. Thanks.

Refill for Waterman
	7/25/2002: Roller King
	Dear T>L> Hennings, according to my records the following roller refills fit watermans: Quill PilotG2 Rorting Schmidt Itoya Quill is my favorite. I also think the new waterman roller refills are much better than the old ones.

Green Pen in Venlo Ad
	7/25/2002: Paula
	Thanks Bill. I thought it looked like a Cassiopea clip but couldn't find a color match on Ray Adam's web site. I wasn't looking closely enough; it's the "dark green veined" one. Unfortunately that makes at least 3 Cassiopeas I'd like to buy.

Visconti Van Gogh
	7/25/2002: Michael Rapps
	Hi. I just tried out the Visconti Van Gogh yesterday and really loved it...the whole pen left a great impression on me. As a matter of caution, though, I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with theirs. Thanks. Michael

More on pen cases
	7/25/2002: Len Provisor
	Several years ago at a pen show auction, I don't remember the carpet pattern or color so I can't recall which show it was, Chicago or DC, maybe Ohio or LA...sumgai newbie antique dealer brings in an original LE Waterman office wall unit storage cabinet with a zillion drawers, guaranteed authentic, about 10 feet wide about 7 feet high weight of maybe a ton and had visions of thousands of dollars in his pocket at the end of the day. End of auction...not a single bid. Great piece of historical artifact from Waterman but literally impossible to ship..or even get in the door.

pencases
	7/25/2002: Susanna
	http://www.giardino.it/leather/leather.htm?_scrinium.htm ------------ desk pencases in genuine italian leather, at Giardino Italiano website. Susanna

pen case
	7/25/2002: Don
	My two cents worth on the pen case chat. I use a vintage dental cabinet circa 1930-40. Lots of neat little drawers perfect size for pen trays. Mine was a bargain at $750 but most seem to run well over $1,000. Don

pen nut case
	7/25/2002: Joe Nemecek
	Hi Folks and Dave and Sally: I was at the pen show when the builder of this 'very' nice case was showing it. I seriously thought of buying it. The material is solid wood. I have seen another example of this craftmans work. He has built custom inserts in desk drawers for writting instruments. The 'boss man' is highly respected in our community. Joe Nemecek

Katab pens made in Palestine
	7/24/2002: Len Provisor
	Perhaps our friend Dov from Israel will see this and comment also to verify my information. I believe Katab pens were produced in Palestine starting in the late 1930. The company was set up by immigrants from European countries that were employed at pen factories. Katab was an inexpensive pen but well made, and are a popular collectible in Israel.

Which Green one?
	7/24/2002: Bill R.
	There are two green ones in the Venlo ad.... My Nettuno Superba, a birthday gift from a couple years ago, and a gorgeous pen, I highly reccommend one if you can find it! The other is a Cesare Emiliano Cassiopea, another great pen, and much more affordable than a Superba! The Cassiopea is to the rear of the case, the Nettuno towards the front.

Katab Palestinian pen
	7/24/2002: George
	Could anyone here tell me something about Katab pens? Barrel imprinted "Made in Palestine". Appear to date to late '30s or '40s, fairly cheaply made but gold nibs.

Pen for sale
	7/24/2002: Allan
	Parker Duofold International-Pearl Grey with Black wavy lines--- This is the shorter model.It measures 5 1/8th" with the cap on. The nib says 18K and the number 750 is stamped on the right side at the base of the nib. Stamped on the bottom of the feed, in a circular depression ia the letter M. It'a neat looking pen. Price is $175.00 with a converter. No box or papers. I'm looking for a "Sheaffer Clip" Sheaffer with a #8 nib, or a large "Sheaffer clip" pen --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*size doesn't always* matter**
	7/24/2002: david i
	hi george and len and paula, et al. Yes, i quite agree that a semi-skilled craftsdude can outfit one of several sorts of cases to hold pens. Several plans have been posted over the years- including a neat pen coffee table with glass top. Part of the trick of course is how many human-hours of labor to devote to outfitting it. There is something to be said for convenience of getting something already done and working. But of course that is a personal call. Len's case sounds great, and of course i am a great proponent of Gary Lehrer's slotter tray/boxes, but i would point out that Gary's liners alone do retail around $3 per 10 pens stored, or about $750 for just the liners for Len's monster case. And to add to Paula's post, i would note that having seen and held the VENLO cases, they are truly spectacular, but do tend to run more than $1.60 per pen slot :-) regards david

Storing Pens
	7/24/2002: Allan
	I would think that a safe would be the ideal place to store a large number of pens. If someone breaks in to your abode, it would be very easy to put all the pens in a pillow case or wrap them up in a sheet and there goes your pen collection. It's easy to make trays that fit into a safe, or you couldbuy trays for the shelves.

pen cases
	7/24/2002: George
	Leaving aside all the pointless vitriol, keep in mind that all sorts of furniture can be converted into pen cases. One might use the pre-made grooved inserts, cut to shape, or as one poster noted, fine results may be had using strips of thin wood from the hobby store, glued down and then covered with fabric. I believe there was a recent thread on Pentrace regarding inexpensive solid wood tool chests available at Sam's Club (perhaps it was another discount outlet, however), quite capacious and only $70 or so. And as Dr I has pointed out, the best solution for storing large numbers of pens is an antique wooden cabinet properly fitted out.

Vacumatic cartridges
	7/24/2002: Ellen
	Who would be able to help me get my father's Parker Vacumatic converted to use modern ink cartridges? I would like to be able to use it, and filling from a bottle is just too much fuss. It is a nice big pen, so I'm sure there will be room for the cartridge attachment.

My pen case is bigger than your pen case
	7/24/2002: Len Provisor
	Nice case David, it looks very well made and I especially like what's init. My pen display case is also solid white oak, antiqued and has a tilt up top so I can take out trays and ogle the contents. It actually is an artwork flat file that holds my vintage map and parchments collection. Using the pen box liners from Gary Lehrer's at only $5. each (including the box for transport) my case can hold about 2500 pens in 20 drawers each about one-inch height. I don't have 2500 pens, and may never have more than a few hundred perfect ones , but it's a beautiful companion for my pens, vintage pen ads, maps and documents. BTW, this thing weights about a ton and could not move even if I tried. The top is loaded with my desk bases and other accessories that tell my visitors "This guy is really nuts!"

Legacy with Stub nibs

7/24/2002: Mary

Dear Colleagues,

We have received 5 Legacy I Stub nibs. These will be mounted to the CP4 Civil War Pens -- Washington and Richmond. Please contact us back channel if you have an interest.

Images of the CP4 Civil War Pens can be viewed at the address below:
http://stores.andale.com/ClassicPens

We look forward to hearing from you.

E-mail: ClasPenInc@aol.com Tel: 1-323-658-7367 and 1-323-839-8628

PS Any of the above five CP4 pens will look fantastic in David's pen cabinet. And will keep good company to his personal CP4, also mounted with a Stub nib!
After all, David knows quality.

lamy customer service
	7/24/2002: einv
	i too have tried to contact their US distributor without success. i sent them a postcard asking about the nib exchange policy/ possibility for my lamy 2000, and have yet to hear back.

Lamy/Filofax
	7/24/2002: Kristi
	I called the lovely folk at Filofax and left message asking when Lamy converters might become available. It would appear that Filofax doesn't care about pen sales or service since no one has bothered to respond. Too bad since IMHO Lamy makes great pens.

laureat FS
	7/24/2002: einv
	i have a dark mineral blue waterman laureat in medium nib, gently used and looks new. asking $30 postage paid, comes with a convertor.

Are Venlo pen cases good?
	7/24/2002:
	Hi Everyone, Paula, I have no idea what the green pen is. I was wondering if the Venlo pen cases are as nice as they look. The 4 pen box sells for ~$140 on the internet. Is it worth it?

Pen in Venlo ad
	7/24/2002: Paula
	Does anyone know what that green pen in the Venlo ad on the front page of Penlovers is? It doesn't look familiar, and I'm intrigued by the color.

AGATHA CHRISTIE BOX + PAPERS
	7/24/2002: Nageen
	Would any of you penlovers be able to get me the box and papers of MB Limited Edition Agatha Christie. That would be great. Many thanks.

Poor Sally 1
	7/24/2002: david i
	Poor sally. She doesn't know me well enough to know i'll happily argue with anyone about anything. I revel in that. Enjoy debate with those who have points to make. Just ask everyone. Have thanked folks who present meaningful and contrary info. You failed, though. In classic wussy "can't win a real argument" mode, you retreat into typical pseudo-psycholorgical sophistry. "Tsk Tsk, hit a nerve", does not compensate for failed argument. But it is entertaining. Don't delude yourself, though. Your phrasing merely makes your failure glare.. You contribute nothing. Your failure to address my utter destruction of your position speaks for itself. You fail to cite your imagined source of "less expensive" pen cases. You fail to address that for most pen cases the bulk of cost is in constructing individual liners, not in making the outer box. You Fail to cite why my pen case should be even a trifle less expensive, since most pen cases that hold 1/5 the pens cost as much. You fail to offer readers a better alternative for storage. In the context that no known oak pen case is this cheap-per-pen, you arument again fails, and your objections are silly. You hit no nerve my dear. I happily observe that despite your objections that the pen case mite not be perfect in some bizarre fashion, the case represents one of the best dollar values available. You have offered nothing contrary but nebulous whining. The couple folks interested might or might not buy the case. I routinely offer items for sale. Some don't sell first round. that is fine. But if you wish to object, then please show me some useful info. Otherwise you simply are a troll, though i respect your right to be one. Show me a lined pen case holding this many pens for even 50% MORE than this one. Show me your imaginary coin cases, lined with pen trays for the money you quote. I appreciate that you are bringing more publicity to my unique sale item, though. thanks much. David

Refill for Waterman
	7/24/2002: t.l.hennings
	I am in the architectural/engineering field and am particular about writing results. I have tryed to find a medium to broad point refill for my Waterman Rollerball that is comparable to the Sanford liquid espresso. Can anyone make a suggestion?

pen nut case
	7/24/2002: Sally
	Tsk,tsk,poor old David I. seems to have lost it. Besides your case being a trifle expensive your anger could do with some management. Just because you overpaid for some tatty homemade cabinet there is no need to expect anyone else to do so. I notice in your diatribe you failed to address the question of solid wood over cheap veneer, sorry to have hit a nerve. :)

pen case
	7/24/2002: david i
	Leave it to the ignorant to critique what they have never seen and have never examined. Trifle expensive? Yah, sure. Better to buy the Farney 100 pen case for $700- much better deal, righ?. That one is far fancier of course and is very lovely and i am NOT knocking it, but this one holds 5x the number of pens for same ballpark price. I'll tell you what, "sally". Why don't you post a link to where i can get a similar 500 pen case for your farcical ballpark of $250 and i'll go order four of them myself. Make sure you post it to this list. I'd like to see you back up your crochity BS with some actual help to listmembers. If your coin collector cabinet builder can adapt it to pens for even $100 more I will order four of them.. Unlike you, i know the source for this case, and know the big retail pen store that happily bought the only other one available during the past three years. Since i can (without drawers) lift the antique solid wood Hamilton printer cabinet that can house 2000 pens and is four times the size of the case for sale (lift it with drawers out of course), that the case for sale can be lifted is no great surprise. Perhaps you are weak, in addition to being a bufoon. Ya know sally, i've never seen your name on this list before. I might have missed it of course. Have you ever contributed anything to the penchat here, other than to speak in ignorance. kindest regards. David

pen nut case
	7/24/2002: Sally
	Excuse me but if the observation "...Heavy? Surprisingly enough, not that heavy. I have picked it up, loaded, for short walks." (is that with or without a leash ?)is true, then surely the case is constructed of chip board with veneer and not solid natural wood which would make a price of around $800 seem a trifle expensive. You can pick up a decent coin collectors cabinet made from solid walnut for about $250.

PENKALA author Miroslav Tischler to attend DC Pen Show
	7/23/2002: Len Provisor
	PENKALA Writing Instruments by Miroslav Tischler. I bought this book, it is terrific. I recommend you buy it also. Miroslav Tischler, author of Penkala Writing Instruments will be attending the Washington, DC Pen Show. Penkala pens and writing instruments have a remarkable history, invented and produced by Eduard Penkala from Zagreb, Croatia. His first patent was for an automatic pencil in 1906, many other remarkable pen and pencil products including the piston filler system used by Pelikan pens. Visit Penkala website at www.penkala.net to view and order this book. Limited supply : Special DC Pen Show offer for this PENKALA book, only $50. Books can also be ordered safely on line, delivered in about 7 days from Croatia. I highly recommend this as a book you should have on your book shelf. WWW.PENKALA.NET

pen case
	7/23/2002: david
	Weeelllll. Given that i know the fellow who made this, and who makes various such pen cases-- which are also good enough for such amateur, just-getting-in-the-hobby stores such as say the Fountain Pen Hospital--, i'll have to just be amazed by the coincidence. Too bad i didn't know about the $90 cases (or is that $90 per drawer) before i bought this monster 2000-pen Hamilton (not Joel) antique printers case. heh. regards. David

pen case
	7/23/2002: Al
	Couldn't help noticing this "case" looks suspiciously like a $79.95 "BeechBabe" or "Oakbabe" model drawer unit available at Costco Furniture SuperStore which has been modified with some modelshop strips & felt ! - How much did you say this $90 drawer unit was ? Just Kidding ! :)

pen case questions
	7/23/2002: david i
	good questions. To clarify......... The pen case was moved to that part of carpet for photo (i didn't get around to correcting the image with photoshop or there would be no stains), so whether or not the case leaks is a separate issue. But, to answer that question, no the case does not leak. The case owner is responsible for that one. The case is a modern case, not antique, so lighting and wood variation accounts for drawer variation. Nothing has been replaced in the case. Heavy? Surprisingly enough, not that heavy. I have picked it up, loaded, for short walks. With drawers removed, it is easy to juggle. Trading a toyata. Well for a 99 landcruiser i suppose.... regards david

ink for good prices
	7/23/2002: sheryl
	Best prices on the web epson cartridges starting at $2.99 canon cartridges starting at $3.99 http://www.inkmania.com

ultimate pen case
	7/23/2002: Prof.A.Onestone
	Noting the ink stains on the carpet in front of the case does this mean the case leaks ? also the first drawer looks to be made of a different colored veneer (?), is it a replacement? How heavy is this sucker ? would you consider trading for a old Toyota ? - Thanks

JimmGaston's e-mail
	7/23/2002: Rose Grogono
	Does anyone have Jim Gaston's e-mail address I cannot get the e-mail link on his web page to work.I would be gratefulif anyone could help. Rose Grogono

ultimate pen case FS. Holds 500+ pens. Oak. $815
	7/23/2002: david isaacson
	Hello. With much regret, i am offering for sale a rather.... unusual.... pencase. PICS ARE ENCLOSED BELOW Case is made of Oak. Holds 500+ pens, in trays 25 slots wide, by 2 rows deep, with 10 narrow drawers, all taking up a footprint about the size of a two-big-drawer letter-size file cabinet. It is perfect size for an end-table to bed or couch. Please see below for info on pen storage. Price of this cabinet is $815, including shipping. It can hold more than 500 pens as there is usually room between the pens and the front/back of case to squeeze a couple extra pens. Pen storage of course is a tricky business. From the most basic pen boxes to the fanciest calf-skin cases etc, prices seen to range from about 50 ¢ per pen slot on up to about $30 per pen. This furniture-finish piece prices out, i guess, around $1.60 per item. I bought this case after following the typical painful path of starting with a 10-pen case, then a 66 pen case, then a couple of them, then those plus a bunch of traveling attaches, etc. If you have a collection greater than 100 pens, and anticipate that collection growing, do consider investing in a case that will house the expanding collection for many years to come, and does so in a stylish manner. Two pics included below. The first is HUGE, will take some time to load and will need scrolling to see whole thing http://www.vacumania.com/pencase/cabinetbig.jpg SEcond pic is bit smaller of same pic. http://www.vacumania.com/pencase/cabinetlittlesharp.jpg First email gets it. Thanks for looking. regards david

Delta Astra Edizione For Sale
	7/23/2002: Cahlin
	I have a BRAND NEW, un-inked, limited edition, Delta Astra Edizione 1995 Fountain Pen. The Astra features a side-lever ink filling system. The pen is made of Ebonite with 18kt gold nib. The top button is solid 8kt gold. Each pen is individually serial numbered to insure a LIFE-TIME WARRANTY! This Astra Edizione is an oversized F.P color Red Ripple. It comes in the original box, with all papers. The pen is STILL in the shrink-wrap! The suggested retail price is $595. I'm asking $375. I'm happy to answer any questions and send you pictures of the pen. Feel free to contact me at my email address: webhdproductions@aol.com. Thank you.

Pencrazy
	7/23/2002: Randy
	" I'm thinking of buying a fountain pen. I would like to keep the purchase below $200. I like some of the black laquered Waterman's I have seen. I don't like pens that have an overall oval shape. I like them to look perfectly straight on the overall length. " One of my favorite pens is the Waterman Laureat pen, which meets this standard exactly. It often can be found at pen shows and on ebay.

$200 non oval fountain pen
	7/23/2002: Biff
	In this price range I rec the Aurora Talentum or one of the pelicans. The waterman L'Ethalon is straight, as is the Le Man. I think Levenger may have them for $200

Sites to order from (recommendations)
	7/23/2002: PenCrazy
	Any recommendations for sites to order from that carry Waterman, Parker, etc.?

Montegrappa Silver Cigar 1999LE
	7/23/2002: George Guo
	I am looking to buy a Montegrappa Silver Cigar 1999 LE, will consider Gold LE too. Please contact me at geoguo@hotmail.com Thank You George Guo

Need advice
	7/23/2002: PenCrazy
	I'm thinking of buying a fountain pen. I would like to keep the purchase below $200. I like some of the black laquered Waterman's I have seen. I don't like pens that have an overall oval shape. I like them to look perfectly straight on the overall length. Do any fountain pens leak less than others? Any recommendations?

Montegrappa Silver Cigar 1999LE
	7/23/2002: George Guo
	I am looking to buy a Montegrappa Silver Cigar 1999 LE, will consider Gold LE too. Please contact me at geoguo@hotmail.com Thank You George Guo

Wanted Box
	7/23/2002: Lauw Day Kwang
	Hello,I am looking for box Montblanc Imperial Dragon vermeil fp 888 LE. if you have please contact me at mrlauw@yahoo.com

old mechanical pencil
	7/23/2002: Don Anderson
	For Sharon Norton. Your mechanical pencil is most likely Victorian. I have a collection of Victorian Pens and Pencils, if you can email me a photo of your pencil, I can probably be more specific. Don

GRAY Conway Stewart LE Winston Churchill 100 Fountain Pens
	7/22/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	Special offer on Conway Stewart Limited Edition Winston Churchill 100 Fountain Pen in GRAY with gold trim -- purchase through our web site and receive $20.00 off our regular price of $346.00 for a total of $326.00 plus shipping. To view, click to the Conway Stewart Section of New Fountain Pens at www.avalonpens.com. PLEASE NOTE: As usual, the discount will not appear on your order acknowledgement form, but will be applied when your order is received and your credit card is billed. Terry @ Avalon Pens www.avalonpens.com

MB ALEXENDER DUMAS BP
	7/22/2002: ASHOK JAIN
	TO SELL MONT BLANC ALEXENDER DUMAS BP WITH BOX AND BOOK. USED TWICE.MINT CONDITION.JUST FOR $450. CONTACT.

MARCEL PROUST BP
	7/22/2002: ASHOK JAIN
	MONT BLANC "MARCEL PROUST BP" IS AVAILABLE WITH BOX AND BOOK IN NEAR MINT CONDITION.RARELY OPENED.ASKING $500+SHIPPING.FOR SELL OR EXCHANGE.

Vintage Pens FS
	7/22/2002: penhappy
	I have a few more vintage pens to sell, all with full return privileges, all in working but unrestored condition. 1) Parker 61 black 2J with Gold-Filled Cap near mint $75.00.... 2) Doric Steno B&W marble no discoloration excellent $250.... 3) Mid-size Equipoised black very fine $125.... 4) Waterman 18KR GF 542 Safety very fine $345.... 5) Waterman 552 Gold Self-Filler excellent $275.... 6) '50's Pelikan Tortoise 500 Doue' STUB Nib excellent $295.... first confirming email. Thanks.

Want To Trade - Waterman's Nibs
	7/22/2002: Michael McNeil
	Hi Everyone, I'm in seach of a nib and feed for a Waterman's "Red" nib, for a Waterman's #7 red ripple with a red band. The nib would be imprinted RED on the nib itself. The feed would be red and black mottled. I have for trade either a Waterman's "Hundred Year" nib standard size or a standard size "Emblem" nib. Both are flexy, and have medium width tips, i.e. .025 - .033 Please e-mail me backchannel if you have the parts I need and are interested in either of my parts. I can send you the diameter of the feed where it friction fits into the barrel and the O.D. of the actual barrels, if you are not sure what size pen you have. Happy Ink Trailz! Michael nwpenworks@yahoo.com Northwest Pen Works Portland, Oregon

washington show
	7/22/2002: David I
	Yep. concur with sentiments expressed below. Penshow is by far the best immersion-method to learn about pens. The Washington show is as big as they get, with lots of nice people there. Do come by. Share meals with pen-pals from the list. Do lots of show and tell. Bring some weird-variant Parker Vacumatics for show and tell. Hope to see you there. regards david

EXTRA ! EXTRA! Coming to the DC Pen Show
	7/22/2002: Len
	http://www.inkblotters.com/len/prblotter.jpg Call your favorite ink dealer for details.

WTB: Sailor 80th Anniv. LE FP/BP Set
	7/22/2002: Alan Bedrick
	Colleagues, this is a big stab in the dark, but I might as well try. I am looking for a Sailor 80th Anniversary limited edition set that came as a fountain pen and matching ballpen. Available around 10 years ago. I think it came as dark or light briarwood.If anyone has one they care to part with (gently used is just fine) and would like to sell, I would be eternally grateful. Thanks! Alan =====

TOLEDO M 900
	7/22/2002: ASHOK JAIN
	WANT TO BUY ONE TOLEDO M 900 PELIKAN.I CAN PAY BY PAYPAL TOO. CONTCAT ME jinraj@vsnl.com

rare indian pens
	7/22/2002: ASHOK JAIN
	IS THERE ANY ONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT RARE INDIAN PENS LIKE "BRAHAMUM" "RATTANUM" OR "PENFO" GOYAL ETC.

Visconti Titanium skeketon wanted
	7/22/2002: Terri Harris
	I am looking for a Visconti Titanium Skeleton, but hope to pay about US$500 for it. Does anyone know of one available at that price now, or will I need to wait a little? Thanks.

NOS LAMYs SOLD OUT!
	7/22/2002: Jon Rosenbaum
	Thanks everyone! But they are gone. I will see if I can get any more, and if so contact those that have responded. Thanks! Jon R

eBay is OK...Pen Shows are better
	7/22/2002: Regina Martini
	What Len wrote is completely right! It`s worth to come all the way overseas to a big show to meet friends, to buy and trade pens. Great experience! I love it! I find ebay and penbid ok, but if you have the choice...come to DC. Stop at my table and have a look what Pelikan will introduce at the end of the year!

Magic Fountain Pen
	7/22/2002: Harry H.
	Yes.

old mechanical pencil
	7/21/2002: Sharon Norton
	I have a silver (probably sterling) mechanical pencil. When telescoped, it is over 3" long, about 1 and 1/2 inches when retracted. A loop at the end has a short chain attached as if you might carry it on a keyring. Can someone tell me when these were popular?

Magic Fountain Pen
	7/21/2002: Barbara Provenzano
	Can anyone out there give my a history of the Magic Fountain Pen?

Additions to Vintage Fountain Pen Section of Web Site
	7/21/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	For those who appreciate fine vintage pens, we have made some interesting additions to the Vintage Fountain Pen section of our web site, which may be reached at www.avalonpens.com.

F.S. NEW OLD STOCK LAMY 2000's @ 45% OFF!
	7/21/2002: Jon Rosenbaum
	Some more treasures from the closed pen/stationary store! I have three Lamy 2000's in the black bark finish. These list at $145 today. One STUB @$80, one DOUBLE BROAD (looks like a wide stub!) @$80, and one extra fine (looks more like fine to me and is very, very smooth!) @$75. These pens are brand new in their orginal boxes and outer slip cases, they are equiped with 14k white gold nibs. Unfortunately, there are no instructions for these man-sized twist piston fillers, why I don't know. Price includes USA domestic postage, insurance is $2.20 extra. These pens are so nice, I'm tempted to keep one for my self! Act fast before I decide to do just that! First confirming email gets 'em. Jon R

OOPS!!
	7/21/2002: Doctor Nib
	Sorry folks, In my zeal to spread my message, I typed in the wrong e-mail address. Correct address is: drnib@cox.net Thanks! DOCTOR NIB

Goodwin & Other Stuff
	7/21/2002: Doctor Nib
	Greetings Stylophiles! Have been off line for a little bit and couldn't help but reading all the nonsense about Mr. Goodwin and his tragic loss!(?) Battersea Pen Home has an impeccable reputation and you know what, all's fair in love and auctions. The World would not be complete without someone complaining about something! Back to pens now: I have a giant A.A. Waterman hard rubber (burnt orange) fountain pen with a #12 American Ftn. Pen nib and the "Not Connected With L.E. Waterman Co." imprint on the barrel. The cap is a slip-cap with no pocket clip. My question is: Has anybody ever seen another one of these and are there any original catalogs that show this pen (Patent date Aug. 31st 1915)? Last Question: I have a Platinum Pen Co. 70th Anniversary Arabesque Filigree Ftn Pen in solid Platinum--it is marked "PT 950"--I have the Sterling and the 18KT versions and they are marked accordingly and were listed in the company info, but the Platinum version is nowhere to be found--even our domestic Platinum website has no info on the pen. Anybody out there have any info on this pen--somebody in Japan or the Famous Platinum Pen collector I've heard about in Korea? This is what this bulletin board is all about--the exchange of info and ideas on pen collecting and related items--not a forum for complaining about e-Bay auctions. If there is a fraud stealing our hard-earned money on e-Bay, GREAT, let us know, but not if you lost a pen in an on-line auction! Have fun with your pen collecting!!! PEACE! DOCTOR NIB

Need Pencil Mechanism for Waterman Le Mans Pencil
	7/21/2002: Alan Bedrick
	Colleagues, anyone have a new or used pencil mechanism for a Waterman Le Mans mechanical pencil. It takes 0.7 mm lead. If there is one out there, I would sure appreciate hearing about it!! Thanks, Alan

Squigglers
	7/21/2002: Laurie
	I would like to know the name of the company that makes squigglers pens.

New PR ink colors -- His Nibs.com update
	7/21/2002: Norman Haase
	Hello all! As most of you already know, Private Reserve has just released two new ink colors to their wonderful selection, Black Cherry and Sonic Blue. You may not be aware that they've also raised their retail price to $7.60. I will be keeping my price at $7.00 for the immediate future -- for the ink I have in stock, as well as for pre-orders of the two new colors (I expect my shipment to arrive this week), so please email me now if you'd like to reserve any of the 'Reserve' . Although I've not yet seen the new colors myself yet (the folks at Private Reserve dropped the ball on notifying all dealers simultaneously of its shipping availability), Black Cherry has been described by others as a warm tone, somewhere between brown and burgundy, and the Sonic Blue as a blue-black with a bit of gray. Follow the link to take a look for yourselves: http://www.hisnibs.com/ink.htm Auction-wise, for eBay, please click on the following link and then type in "palace" (without the quotes) in the Single Seller box to see what's closing in the next few days: http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html For Penbid, it's also "palace" in the Search By Seller box: http://pen.luxbid.com/Auction/XcAPSearch.asp Don't forget to take advantage of the July Special when ordering pens: http://www.hisnibs.com/specials.htm Regards, Norman Haase His Nibs.com www.hisnibs.com

eBay is OK...Pen Shows are better
	7/21/2002: Len Provisor
	Ok, so you can sit in your underwear watching an auction on eBay...finger over a mouse ready to bid on a pen at 72 dpi, but nothing can replace being at a pen show. You can touch it, smell it, talk, learn, meet e-mail buddies, non-stop pen fun worth a heck of a lot more than winning a pen and not really knowing what you get. For the time of your life, try to make one of the big FIVE shows : NY, LA, Chicago, DC, Ohio or maybe Philly, Boston, Miami, San Francisco, Atlanta, Michigan, Houston, or if you're in the neighborhood...Melbourne Australia or the JIPC - Jerusalem International Pen Show in 2004.

goodwin
	7/20/2002: einv
	sort of empathize with him. having watched the auction over several days, and then being sniped (by bidding software, perhaps) has to feel awful. i too, had several such experiences. initially, i thought the snipers ungentlemanly, in not announcing their "intentions" beforehand. but ebay is a game with several variables added to the usual live auction situation. one of those variables is the great freedom that comes with all things internet. thus, one sees weird phenomena like shills, trolls, deadbeats, snipes, etc. none of whom would have a chance in a live, respectably conducted auction. the rules are different, and the game is different as well. tried sniping a couple times myself: got the rush, but felt miserably guilty later. after a while, ebay got on my nerves, and now i loathe it.

New Parker "51"
	7/20/2002: Len
	To answer your inquiry, yes, the new Parker "51" is real and is in production at this time for release in October. It is designed to be true to the original, two models only in solid sterling cap or two-tone silver and gold filled cap, both in the "Empire" sytle. Retail $350. each. The first review of this was reported by Maryann Zucker in her article from the recent Stationery Show in NY. The article is on Pentrace. You can read this by going to http://www.pentrace.com/2002/article052202_185.html

new parker 51
	7/20/2002: dmroskies
	any information about this? in the works, or just a thought at present? and if in the works, will it be, I wonder,a replica of the modest, simple and efficient original or a more imposing affair with bells on? (eg, the weight and size of the new centennial Duofolds, circa 1980s, compared to the older models.)

OMAS Return to Motherland: You Want It? It's Yours!
	7/20/2002: Alan Bedrick
	Okay, I am ready to put this pen in the loving hands of someone who really would like it. Just make me an offer...not a mega-low-ball, and it is yours. It needs a good home. Pen Protective Services (PPS - stylophilic equivalent of Child Protective Services) is watching me to make sure I do right by this pen. Thanks! Alan

Ebay & PWI Meeting
	7/20/2002: Allan
	I was outbid at the last possible second on Ebay last night! Do you suppose that The PWI Cartel has a secret weapon to use against us?

Secret PWI Meeting
	7/20/2002:
	The inside scoop: The meeting was a great success, and we can expect the takeover to begin any day now. As far as we know, the only current hold up is in getting the black helicopters with the snowcap insignia into the country, they'll probably be smuggled in through Canada. Then there will be the shut down of the internet, using the Worldcom scandal as a pretext. Then, with those pesky internet only retailers out of the way, and the enforcement arm ready, the future of fine pen retail will be forever secured!

Secret Pen World Summit
	7/20/2002: Jon
	Hey, does anyone know what went on at the secret Pen World Summit meeting sometime the last week or so in Houston? I heard that it happened and that no Internet dealers were invited but those that were there were being asked to form some sort of consortium of dealers and manufacturers. I wonder if this has anything to do with Parker trying to price fix the upcoming new 51 releases. I heard that they have threatened to cut off any dealer that sells the pen at a discount. I’m not sure if any of this is good for our hobby, but does anyone have the inside scoop. Jon

re: Pelikan M800 and black ink
	7/19/2002: markh
	I would suggest flushing the pen with ammonia. "Pure" ammonia (without detergent, or lemon scent, etc..), probably 50/50 with water. If it's the bad Pelikan black, the problem is mold. I have seen reports of people who had their pen contaminated with this, only to have mold re-grow when the pen was refilled with another ink. The relatively concentrated ammonia rinse can sterilize the pen. When I washed one of my problem pens out with water, I could see pieces of crud floating in the water. If you see this, its probably a good sign that you are having the same problem. I got a few reports of mold in the bottle bad enough to have a white layer growing on the top of the ink in the bottle, but I haven't seen anything like that. The very fact that its black ink makes it hard to see the contamination in the bottle. As to not using "designer" ink... Pelikan black is a great ink - and will be again when this problem is fixed. Chartpak has said the problem is resolved and current production should be ok. Probably true, but I am going to wait awhile. But eventually it will be fine. If you want a similarly warm toned, very black ink with good flow, try Aurora - a similar ink. mh

Overlay Repair
	7/19/2002: Rob Brunner
	I believe I have read somewhere that the dings can be taken out of an Waterman overlay. I have a smooth 554 which has a few minor dings that I would like to clean up. Can anyone recommend someone or comment on the feasibility of such a repair.

PENguin update
	7/19/2002: Rick Propas
	Thanks to everyone who visited and who purchased pens from me in what was a far more successful first month (+) than I ever anticipated. To thank everyone, I am extending free shipping until after the DC show. See you all there. We now have sixty pens listed and more going up soon. If you need a Parker or Pelikan that's not up, check with me. Also, I have not listed yet a new (MIB) Aurora Optima in green with a broad nib and a Parker Vacumatic Oversize set (both oversize pen and pencil) in silver. Among the new pens, I am pleased to offer the PCA Limited Edition. This pen is available from me at the lowest price on the 'net, because I'll pay shipping. Check it out. Again, thanks to everyone, and if you haven't visited or bought from us, check out the testimonials page. Already we have several repeat customers. Our goal is to bring you the best pens, fully reconditioned and guaranteed, at fair prices. Thanks.

re: Pelikan M800 and black ink
	7/19/2002: Waco Johnny D
	Donald's right, the Pelikan ink has probably gummed up the works. Flush the pen with half 409 cleaner and half water until the contents are almost clear, do NOT rinse the pen afterwards, but immediately fill with Parker Quink black or Sheaffer black. Reliability/consistency of ANY pen can be improved by avoiding ink reputed to have QC problems and by avoiding "designer" ink. WJD

omas roller ball
	7/19/2002: roller king
	I've had an Omas Roller Ball for a couple of years and they write well, in fact better than most. Also remember that the generic small size capless roller, the one that's the same length as the standard parker ballpoint, also fits the omas.

Pelikan 4001 Black
	7/19/2002: Donald
	Pelikan black ink has been reported in long threads on Zoss and acpp to cause serious problems on occasions. Considering the many of reports on bad Pelikan black its reasonable to assume you may have got a bad bottle as well. Try another ink after a very complete flush of the pen. Some people have reported the ink was very hard to flush out and the pen continued to skip for quite a while after being filled with Pelikan. Hard to say how much of their ink is bad. One out of 100 bottles? More? Less?

repair parts
	7/19/2002: Martin Smith
	Hi Folks I just added a few new items to our repair site including clear silicone sacs and vac jewels. http://www.simcom.on.ca/woodbin if this is of interest. Cheers Martin/Wood Bin Ltd.

Pelikan M800 and black ink
	7/19/2002: NFE
	Have been using my new M800 only with black ink for a year now. I recently noticed that ink was not flowing properly. Each time I need to unscrew to get some ink to write. I cleaned all the parts several times. I was using Pelikan 4001 inks although my new test with Caran d'Ache did not work either. Should we not expect the ink to flow without any unscrewing? Is my experience normal? All comments will be appreciated. Thanks, NFE

The "Roots" of the parker family in America
	7/19/2002: Len Provisor
	Visit www.pentrace.com to read creative short stories and histories... Part I : The "Roots" of the Parker family in America http://www.pentrace.com/2002/article071502_191.html Tall tales by Will Thorpe, Pen Lyrics Contest, PENSTOP new pen reports, Michael Richter and Johan Thole on The Ink Spot Richard Binder on The Nib Section - History of Parker Pencils by Jimmie Cockburn Enjoy Inky Linkies, Biographies and join the chat on the most active Message Board on the net. Scroll down Home Page for current articles and the index on right margin. Written by fountain pens that are meant to write. Over half-million page views per month and growing. WWW.PENTRACE.COM .....making something good happen today....." CLICK IT ! "

the errors of james goodwin
	7/18/2002: david i
	holy moly. James loses a pen auction on ebay the way everyone does- he bid too low and he bid early. He lost the way everyone loses when he loses on ebay- he lost to a bidder who bid a better price at a later time. The real-world rules of ebay were followed perfectly, and instead of viewing this as a chance to learn how to negotiate the maze that is ebay, he lets loose a vituperative tirade against one of pendom's best dealers, all because they actually played the ebay game as it is meant to be played. I must be missing something here. David

bid whining
	7/18/2002: david isaacson
	The bidding debate has been done over and over, year after year. It is an oldie but a goodie. Every so long a bidder comes along upset because his "bargain" was either lost to a more serious bidder, or was driven up to more realist level by a late bidder. Usually this complaining occurs by kind and decent folks who have no insight as to how ebay works, who do not understand why sniping is the "generally" best strategy for anyone who wishes to bid on a pen, and that no one should ever ever enter a maximum bid that is more than he would be content to pay for the item.

Cleaning nibs
	7/18/2002: Len
	Sharon, simple task to clean nibs. I'd suggest fill a cup with cool water with a few drops or 12 of a dishwasher, or 409, or 1 oz of ammonia or any good soapy solution. Place pens in cup with exposed nibs down. Let soak overnight. Scrub with old toothbrush next day until clean. Hint, keep nibs and brush deep in sink to avoid spraying everything in sight. Let more stubborn caked ink soak another night. When clean, flush all the pens internally, same method as filling with ink with soapy solution to clean the innards. Good luck, any questions ask the Board anytime.

cleaning nibbs
	7/18/2002: Sharon Mathews
	Please help me.. I am a fountain pen a holic.. and love each one of my pens.. but as the years go by I find that they are less dependable. I feel they need to be cleaned good. My question is.. How do I clean them and not do any damage to the nibbs? Or do I have to have a professional do this. I really need help. I have many pens.. from Shaeffer to Monte Blanc.... Thank You.. Sharon

re: Any input on Omas rollerballs?
	7/18/2002: Waco Johnny D
	That's easy. Buy a refill and try it w/o the pen. If you don't like it, you're out only a couple of bucks. If you do like it, you've got a spare refill. WJD

Montblanc Pen
	7/18/2002: Larry Shelton
	Montblanc made a model in the 1970's and 80's that fits your description called the Noblesse. Came in a number of finishes. You might try Fountain Pen Hospital in NY for a replacement.

Mont Blanc Pen
	7/18/2002: Gerrie West
	I once had a stainless steel Mont Blanc fountain pen (1982) that I loved, with a fine nib. My father gave it to me, but after many years, I lost it. Do you ever have used pens for sale? They don't make that model anymore, it had a slightly brushed finish, and was perfectly cylindrical. The top of the cap was flat, with the mont blanc symbol. Do you know the name of the model? Thank you, Gerrie West

General Goodwhine
	7/18/2002:
	Mr Goodwhine is going to ignore remarks that get personal after the insults, name calling, and other remarks he made about a well respected and long time pen collector and dealer who did the same as the majority of ebay buyers did and won an auction fair and square. I've lost many ebay auctions in the last few seconds, and won many as well. I never got upset at the winner if I loose. I then blame myself for not bidding higher. So, General Goodwhine, I'd like to give you a well earned salute. With one finger.

Final Comments
	7/18/2002: Baba O'Reilly
	Methinks Master Goodwynne would do well to check the curtains are drawn when he plugs himself in.Oh & why did he drop the K ? Could it be

welcome to GoodwinBay(TM)
	7/18/2002: Howard Anatra
	Sellers are sure to love the all-new GoodwinBay(TM) auction site! Especially after their auctions close, and they are told, "sorry, we know X was the high bidder on your item, but you'll have to accept Jim's bid instead, because he was the high bidder for longer." Or, ". . . you'll have to accept Jim's bid instead because he really, really, really wants to win, and X is some stupid foreigner anyway." Or, ". . . you'll have to accept Jim's bid instead, because Jim is more sincere and X probably is just a shill who didn't intend to win, even though he's a professional auction buyer and his bid was twice as high as Jim's."

Final Comments
	7/18/2002: James Goodwin
	Ok guys, apart from ignoring your comments that get personal, I want to tell you that I understand how an auction works as I have played it for years. I was trying to draw a distinction. You would have an auction to clear out all the things in your home or factory, you hire auctioneer, advertise and prepare the site and allow people to check out the stuff before it begins. The auction starts and is over in a hour or so. You have a finite crowd limited to whoever comes in that day. It is there where you can find the bargains and get it for a good price On the other hand, EBAY is a continuous 7 to 10 day based auction with an infinite audience of people worldwide. Sometimes you will find bargains and sometimes you won't. The auction does not stop until the clock shuts off and it is like you had the auctioneer on duty the full 7 to 10 days! My point was that in both venues, you still run the risk of shills or not serious bidders. Retail selling - you have to be competitive and generate the cash to stay into business otherwise you will be in bankruptcy court and subject to an auction to dispose of your things for creditors. You can check both retail and auctions and select the best for your needs. Another point I brought up was the bidding strategy which generated personal comments on my character and sanity. My point was why bid high early and leave yourself the risk of others jumping in and jacking up their bids until they quit to leave you the winner. Bid accordingly and bid wisely. That can mean bidding at a time close to the end or when you sense that interest has been lost. It is a poker game and you call their bluff without getting bluffed or outsmarted or conned into overbidding. That is what I was saying. All that about realtors, car dealers and auction houses is true - they want to ensure that people are serious before they do business with you. Time wasted is time lost. That concludes my piece on the subject and may each of us go their separeate ways.


	7/18/2002: James

re: Goodwin's Apology
	7/18/2002: jason
	Goodwin, I don't know anything about you besides what you have written in your responses. From that I can't help but conclude that you don't understand and are incapable of comprehending the logistics and rules of an auction. Perhaps you are just plain stubborn and don't want to admit you're wrong. Either way I don't see a point in arguing with you anymore. Best Regards, Jason

Geeez, what a whiner
	7/18/2002: Harry
	Seems to me J.K.Badwin should get himself some help, this guy's seriously disturbed.

Any input on Omas rollerballs?
	7/18/2002: Joanna
	Hi Everyone, I'm about to purchase an oversize Omas fountain pen. I was thinking about getting a rollerball to match. I love the celluloid material. How are Omas rollerball pens? Do they write well? Thanks.

Geeez, what a whiner

7/18/2002: .

<< The thing is that we have not been able to devise an auction system that will reward the person who has the bid for the item the longest time while penalzing the one who just bids to jack up the ultimate price >>>

You've got to be kidding with that comment! You want preference because you were fool enough to waste your bidding energy on early stairstep bidding??!! In any auction (live, internet, or otherwise), as long as I pre-register, I can wait until right before the gavel and place whatever bid I want. If you REALLY want the item, you're going to have to pay more. Now wheter I'm a shill to raise the price or a legit buyer, that's for you to decide. It's like poker, unfortunately.

If you want everything on an even keel, you should buy from a retailer and pay retail. Otherwise, deal with the auction paradigm and its limitations.

And if you think that house sales, car sales, and the beyond-reproach, convicted of bid-rigging, Sothbys or Christies don't have shill and false bidding, you are really wet-behind-the-ears.

If you want something bad enough, pay for it. If you can't play the same snipe-bidding game, TOUGH.

Goodwin
	7/18/2002: Gen. A.P. Morgan (ret'd)
	Sir, when I was in active service the name employed by officers used to dealing with rude and uneducated whiners was SFB. Needless to say I have not thought of this for twenty-five years, until now !

FS: Visconti - Ashford.com Pen CORRECTION
	7/18/2002: Skip Williams
	The Visconti-Ashford.com pen that I just put on the list has a 14k, Rhodium plated nib (as someone pointed out, it does say 14k on the nib. DUH!) Skip

Goodwin's Apology
	7/18/2002: James K. Goodwin
	Jason, let me finish this factual conversation. Before you can tour an exclusive house, you are prequalified by the realtor to see if you have the means to afford the house. Car dealers can quckly weed out the lookers from the pretenders by the skillful use of body language -that is why people like to shop for cars on Sunday. Sothbys requires bidders to preregister with a financial deposit to prove that they are serious bidders. Since Ebay is not Sothbys and accepts all comers, we run the risk of those less than serious jacking up the prices to close to what we are willing to pay and then stopping bidding. That happens and is a risk to those of us who play. People who want to get their price will set a reserve price, thus ensuring perpetual relisting of the item until they find a bidder willing to buy at the reserve price - they are protected from taking a loss. People who want to ensure that their items are sold will have a "Buy it now" feature and give the bidder the chance to buy now at a fair price to end the auction. Since I know my prices, I have found items at a fair price by exercising my buy it now option. The idea is to move the stuff you want to sell. It works either way - you will get your price with a crowd of bidders and maybe more or you will get a fraction of this if one bidder is the only one willing to bid. Finally, throughout this series of debates, I have stuck with the facts. Whiners do not have the facts to stick with and end up whining.

Stop your whining
	7/18/2002: James K. Goodwin
	What I am encapsulating is NOT whining it is telling the truth that probably you are in denial of. I have apologised to Battersea but I will NEVER apologise for telling the truth.

FS: Visconti - Ashford.com pen
	7/18/2002: Skip Williams
	I've got one of those Visconti Ashford.com pens in Black that doesn' get much use and I think it should go to a better home. It's a full-size Visconti pen. $50 + shipping. Basically in mint shape, Medium SS nib. Picture at http://www.skipwilliams.adahost.com/to-sell/visconti-ashford.jpg

Goodwin's Apology
	7/18/2002: Jason
	I've auctioned a number of pens and other items on ebay and Love to watch the price of my item go up in the last seconds. It's quite fun and there's nothing wrong with it. It's the nature of auctions. If you don't like it don't participate. If you want to buy pens at riduclously low prices you need another method. Auctioned items will generally sell near an items actual value (What someone is willing to pay). If you wanted to only pay $10 than bid $10. If you bid $200 than you should be quite pleased that the item went for $177.50. You paid $22.50 less than what you were willing to. That should make you happy. Moral of the story. Just bid what you would be willing and happy to pay. If you bid more you're just plain stupid. It would also be pretty sad for a seller who's $177.50 item went for only $10. I'm sure you're hypothetical bidder of $175 would have been happy to pay $175 for the item if you only bid $172.50. Stop your whining.

Apology
	7/18/2002: James K. Goodwin
	After reading your posts, I have decided to apologize for my choice of words used to describe Battersea Pen house. But my concerns about this incident are still there. Soame of you have said, bid higher. Consider this - suppose you bid $200 on an article that is currently priced at $10. Seven days go by and it is still $10 until the last few minutes when a bidder bids up the price to say $175 and then quits, leaving me the victor at $177.50. (I want to pay $10, not $177.50!) That has me wondering about his sincerity to outbid me or just to jack up the price that I will have to ultimately pay. So, you must be cautious in placing a long term bid and bid accordingly to the situation. Another thing, Ebay will deny it, but there are shills out there who jack up the prices that we will pay for the things we want. It is not just pen collectors and I am not accusing anyone in thei group. The thing is that we have not been able to devise an auction system that will reward the person who has the bid for the item the longest time while penalzing the one who just bids to jack up the ultimate price. If we had such a system, I am sure everybody would be happy. Sniper system or just a person who stays up late in the night to make the last second bid - they earn that right if is is what they do. Finally, I bid according to a value based system and never overbid or overpay for something.And I always pay when I win which is something some people do not do. Based on a production run of 10,000 units, there must be between 8 and 9,000 units gathering dust in peoples places. One day, I will get one when it comes to me at a good price. I may be sorry for my choice of words, but I am not sorry for possessing a very sharp focus on the issues of life that matter most to me other than pen collecting. Winners do not feel sorry for wanting to win. That is me and will always be so. No hard feelings toward Battersea pen.


	7/18/2002: james

Briarwood SPECIALS
	7/18/2002: Susanna
	SPECIAL OFFERS at Giardino Italiano website! Now we're selling out all the briar pens in stock, at special prices: pens by Marlen, Cesare Emiliano, Parafernalia. Come and see our SALES webpage: http://www.pens.it/pens.htm?_sales.htm

1st year Parker 51 set
	7/18/2002: Jason
	I picked up a 1st year Parker 51 set in cordovan brown in great condition in a nice case. The cap is the standard lined GF cap and it has all alum jewels. The case is probably not the original but from the same period. Does anyone know what the value on a set like this would be?

Crybaby Goodwin
	7/18/2002:
	If anyhone is a SOB its James Goodwin and I suspect this idiot and his shamfull crybaby post proves it to everyone. He was fairly and simply out bid and that is only his own fault for not bidding high enough. I would never sell a pen nor deal with Mr. Goodwin based on his silly post. Millions of people bid in the last seconds at auctions. On ebay its a sport and losing in a sport is part of the game. There are also several companies that automate the last second bidding process and its perfectly fair to use them if one wants. So its very possible no one stayed up to bid other than a compiuter. Although there is nothing wrong with staying up. Mr. Goodwin has provided the best laugh I've seen on this site for some time and it does show how wacked out some poele can be when they don't get their way. Its one thing to be upset about losing an auction. Thats human nature even though a semi-sane person would blame themselves and get on with life. Its another to post about it and call the winner names. Mr. Goodwin needs the help of a good physc doctor I suspect, and if he posts many thigs like that, he may soon need a good lawyer as well.

highway robbery by James K. Goodwin
	7/18/2002: not the Battersea Pen Home
	Cor, can you imagine the cheek of this bottom-fishing bugger? The silly Yank costs me an additional $40+ with his pathetic bid, and then whines like a kicked dog.

highway robbery by battersea pen?
	7/18/2002: George
	Whoa, pardner! This here's a family website. Reckon myself that it wasn't the Brit who had the h***-on for the pen, if you know what I mean. Anyway, thanks for a laugh. When I read "it meant a lot to me to own something at a reasonable price only to have it stolen at the very last second" I can't help but see it as "I really wanted to get it cheap cuz I'm not about to pay what it's worth, and now I'm blaming the Limey cuz he was willing to pay a fair price". Maybe y'all should contact the seller and see if he feels the same way about it all. P.S. If yer really short of scratch and y'all are really in Philly, why not get a piece of Independence Hall and put it in a pen yourself? Reckon its a big ol' thing, they wouldn't mind if you carved a sliver or two off it. And y'all could always explain how important it is to you, I'm sure they'd understand.

Re: highway robbery by battersea pen
	7/18/2002: Jon
	Now, now, now, James, just because you got beat in an auction you shouldn’t resort to name-calling. The folks at Battersea Pen are great people and well known in the pen collecting community. They did not steal your pen, like any other auction whether online or otherwise, you were simply outbid. Weather it be six seconds before the end of the auction or six hours when its “once, twice, sold, time” in an auction or in this case the time runs out those with the high bid in win. That’s why it’s called an auction, the high bidder wins when the auction is over. The folks at Battersea are fine people and to publicly call them names just isn’t right over losing the auction you though you might win. You never know maybe this was a final piece for them to complete an area in their collection and they were prepared to pay up to $500 for the pen. They obviously were ready to pay more than you had decided the pen was worth to you. Just my 2 cents worth.

Pen Auction
	7/18/2002: Elmo
	Who is S.J. Hale and why has no one ever heard of him here before? And why does he only give one contact address, which he says will be deleted after his sale?

Pen Auction
	7/18/2002: S. J. Hale
	NOTICE OF AUCTION FOR VINTAGE FOUNTAIN PENS To all interested parties: There will be an auction of vintage fountain pens, mechanical pencils, boxed sets, desk sets, and other items including accessories on September 1, 2002 at Schott’s Auction House in Alexandria, Indiana. I have attached the auction broadside with all information pertinent to the above sale. Have also attached an order form if you should wish to order a catalog of all Lot Numbers. Any catalog order must be submitted before August 15th in order to arrive in time for the sale. Since this is a one-time sale of my personal collection I would prefer to receive a Money Order to pay for either the CD or printed catalogs. The prices are $15 for the COLOR CD (alphabetical with lot/catalog #) and $20 (numerical with lot/catalog #) for a printed BLACK & WHITE copy in binder. There are 84 pages of photos and documents. Shipping and handling will be by U. S. Mail and is included in this price unless you request special handling or shipping. You will be notified of these extra charges when the order is filled. The order(s) will be shipped immediately upon arrival of the form. If an order is received after August 15th I will promptly return the order form and Money Order, so be sure to clearly print your name and address on the order form. If you chose to order the CD you will need a computer with a CD Rom drive and at least 4-X speed. These personally scanned photos and documents are in the standard JPEG format and were used with the Windows 98 and Windows Me (Update) operating systems. Every picture or document should be easily viewed by using the Kodak Imaging program, which is included with Windows. They can then be viewed at close range and printed out, if wanted. Since I’ve used the JPEG format, you should also be able to import them into your own photo or graphic programs easily for editing. If you are concerned about viruses during the opening of these documents, you need not worry since every item was generated using my scanner and CD-RW drive. There are no imported documents. I have McAfee Clinic On Line Virus Scan, which is updated regularly and used religiously and do not have any known viruses. If you have any questions regarding the attached items you can contact me at the following e-mail address. Also I will not compile a mailing list for any reason and will not distribute same. penauction9-1-02@juno.com (this address will be deleted after the sale). If you need directions to the sale or any other information about the sale, please contact the auctioneer, Mike Schott as shown on the broadside. Thank you for your interest! S.J. Hale, Pen Collector

highway robbery by battersea pen
	7/18/2002: James K. Goodwin
	Last night I found a Parker Bicentennial Pen on auction. The reserve was $100 and the current selling price was $109.75. I put a bid for $150 and was the highest bidder until the close of the auction at 9:41 pm est. Battersea Pen stole the pen from me with six seconds remaining on a bid that topped out my bid of $150 with a final bid of $152.50. I checked out the commpany and found that they were from London, England. A well established pen seller and buyer business. I feel that it was a below the belt bid by some pervert who stayed up the night with a raging hard on for this pen and put the bid at 241 am in the morning, London time! Being from Philadlephia with the pen having fragments from Independence Hall it meant a lot to me to own something at a reasonable price only to have it stolen at the very last second. Shame on Battersea Pen for stealing something from me that used to belong from Independence Hall as the British have to resort to such means since they lost the Revolutionary war in 1776! Such bastards from battersea pen we have!

OMAS Jerusalem and Return to Motherland BARGAIN!!
	7/18/2002: Alan Bedrick
	Early in the morning barain!! OMAS Jerusalem and Return to Motherland limited editions - both in sterling silver - both mint, boxed, complete with all documentation; never dipped or written with, etc. Medium 18k nibs.; everything...$1,050 delivered for the PAIR!! First email, etc. Thanks, Alan

Parker Premier Laque
	7/18/2002: Rob van de Wijngaard
	For sale, Parker Premier brown laque fountainpen and ballpoint in mint condition complete with original box. Parker Premier sterling silver set as above, used. Parker 45 fountainpen green plastic barrel, steel nib. Parker 45 fountainpen all stainless steel, goldplated nib and clip. Parker 65 goldplated fountainpen, 14k golden nib. Above may be sold separatly

Lost Web Site
	7/18/2002: Norman Wiltberger
	Hi, I was surfing a couple of nights ago, looking for vintage fountain pens (preferably Sheaffer or Parker). I ran across a nice site that had a lot of vintage pens. The site showed each individual pen with cap off and both cap and staff were diagonal on the screen. The site was very well done and had one of the better selection of fountain pens I've seen so far. The unfortunate part is that I can't remember the site address...if someone knows what I'm trying to find by the above description, please email me. I'm in the market for a '20's Sheaffer or Parker, black with a fine nib. Thanks. Norman

Portland (and Oregon) Collectors Unite!
	7/18/2002: Northwest Pen Works
	I've been running something through my head for sometime now. Carla Mortensen and myself have been finding quite a few collectors, by accident, in the local area lately. Several of them have been joining in on our local pen gatherings here in Portland. Some live in Portland, some across the Columbia River in Vancouver, Washington, and others from around Oregon. We have a free local pen list to stay in contact with everyone and usually meet bi-monthly. If you read this and would like to attend our gatherings, or join the pdx pen list, just e-mail me. I know there are other local pen collectors hiding out there.... I can hear you breathing!!! ;-) Oh, if I scare you for some odd reason, you can also e-mail Carla at: carla_mortensen@hotmail.com Michael McNeil Northwest Pen Works Portland, OR

Delta, Dupont, Edson FS
	7/17/2002: Don Christie
	Hi all, I've decided to retire a few pens to make room for more. All pens come in original boxes with all warranties, etc. The Segovia has never been inked. The others have been inked, but not used. Insured priority shipping will be $10. I prefer a bank check, but will accept paypal from those of you who need the pen absolutely as soon as possible. (I've been there.) Delta Alpha Romeo Red $205 Delta Segovia L/E $345 Duppont Orpheo Vertigo (lg) $420 Waterman Edson Red FP & BP $450 Contact me at donchristie@aol.com

NOS blue Esterbrook fountain pens
	7/17/2002: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	These are 1950's Esterbrook "school pens". The pens are New Old Stock - never used, lever filler with rubber sacs - with new boxed fine Venus "Renewable" points. Barrels are blue with screw on chrome plated caps. These particular pens were bought in Canada - clip is marked "ESTERBROOK". $15 each plus $2.00 shipping image at: http://www.gulftel.com/gnoza/blu4school.jpg

$200 Pen
	7/17/2002: Biff
	Christine, I have the Winner. Never mind what anyone else says, the new Visconti Van Gogh is the way to go!!!!

good $200 fountain pen
	7/17/2002: Bryan
	Christine I'm sure that others will probably weigh in but I would make the following recs: Aurora Talentum, in my oppinion the best choice in this price range and winner of a PEN World Magazine award for best value Parker Sonnet Silver Cisele Namiki Vanishing Point, $120, Plus $20 each for 2 additional nibs so you could interchange F,M, and B Waterman Carene Good hunting.

Military pens
	7/17/2002: Hentrack
	I am seeking a fountain pen made/purchased by the United States Army (preferably medical corps) 1930-1953...military clip and insignia a plus..Manufacturer/brand is not important...Good usable condition IS.. Any leads appreciated..

WANTED:
	7/17/2002: stephen overbury
	Serious buyer looking to purchase two green giant Dorics with adj. nibs, and a Parker 51 with hand hammered silver cap.

PENnant: Free Classified Ad
	7/17/2002: Jim Griffiths
	Hello all, If you are a member of the PCA in good standing, you are entitled to one free classified ad per year (25 words or less). We are preparing the Summer issue of The PENnant, so now is your time to submit your classified ad if you are interested (and eligible). Just send them to me at this address (gryff@aol.com) and I will get them in the issue. Not currently a member of the PCA? That's easy to fix. Membership is only $30/calendar year, and you can join through the following web page: http://www.pencollectors.com/form.html If you have any questions about classified or display ads in The PENnant, please do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Jim Griffiths

Sheaffer Legacy 2 Special Offer
	7/16/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	Order a Sheaffer Legacy 2 in King’s Gold or Emperor’s Silver through our web site and receive a special offer price of $165.00 plus shipping (regularly $184.00). Limited supply in stock - fine or medium nibs only. See these pens at www.avalonpens.com. Please note -- discount will not appear on your order acknowledgement form, but will be applied when your order is received and your credit card is billed. Offer ends July 22nd!

Customize your Sailor Pen at the D,C. Show - Order Now
	7/16/2002: Maryann at PenstopOnline
	Anyone planning to attend the D.C. Super Show and interested in the Sailor Nagahara nibs, the time is now to order your pen. They are just starting to arrive and promise to be sold out quickly. With pen in hand while at the D.C. show Mr. Nagahara will customize any of the Sailor pens for you personally. Don't miss this opportunity the nibs are fantastic and his work is flawless. Vist our website, by clicking the link above to PenstopOnline, pick you model and place your order NOW. It will be shipped in plenty of time for the D.C. show or hand delivered to you at the show.

NOS PELIKANS STILL FOR SALE!
	7/16/2002: Jon Rosenbaum
	Here's what's left: Have aquired some terrific new old stock Pelikan 400's and 600's (some pens marked "W. Germany") from a long closed pen and stationary store. The pens come in the neat black plastic clamshell cases complete with papers and outer cardboard slip box. The 400's are equiped with 14k gold nibs (single color), have nicer trim than the newer versions, I believe. The 600's are the same size as the 400's but have additional GP trim ring on the barrel near at the piston knob and a second GF cap ring and are equiped with 18k single color nibs. Here's what's available: M400 Green OM flexy nib $110 SOLD, M400 Green XF nib $100 SOLD, TORTISE (gorgeous!) B Flex nib $135 SOLD. Black M600's--one each B flex nib and OM SOLD flex $115 ea; F SOLD and XF $110 ea. BURGUNDY M600's--2 B flex nibs @ $125 ea ONE SOLD, one F nib and 2 XF nibs @ $120 ea. Add $7.00 for insured priority mail for domestic USA shipment. Multiple pens shipping cost will be determined based on total number. Checks OK, money orders preferred. First confirming email gets 'em. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE STILL A GOODLY NUMBER OF THESE LEFT, SO DON'T DESPAIR! JUST EMAIL FOR YOUR CHOICE! Thanks Jon R

Interesting additions to our pen web site
	7/16/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	We have added the new Stipula Etruria Retractible Nib Fountain Pen to our web site at an excellent price -- may be viewed in New Pens section. Additionally, for those who appreciate fine vintage pens, an addition to our Vintage Fountain Pens Section is a very fine Wahl Eversharp Oversize Deco Bank Gold Seal in lapis blue.

PR Ink drying time
	7/16/2002: Russ Stutler
	Both Sonic Blue and Black Chery dried instantly, with no waiting. I had a bottle of Sherwood Green that dried instantly when I bought it but after the bottle sat for about a year and a half on my shelf, the ink became very slow drying. My new bottle of Sherwood Green which I received a few days ago also dries quickly. Now I'm wondering if something happens to the ink over time... Anyway, now that I'm using them with dip pens, they won't be sitting on the shelf for a year and a half.

new to pens, need advice!
	7/16/2002: Christine
	Hello, I lost a 25-year old gold Cross fountain pen and ballpoint in a fire recently and get to replace them in an insurance settlement. Any ideas for a current fountain pen of good quality not over $200. or so? I'm afraid I have no idea what's out there. Saw the Scheaffer Legacy 2 in a Levenger ad and it looked interesting. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

New PR Inks
	7/16/2002: Adam
	To Russ, Len and others who've tried the Sonic Blue and Black Cherry, how is the drying time? Russ indicated that they weren't on the Tanzanite side of flow, but I find that Tanzanite dries a heck of a lot faster than, e.g., Sherwood Green. Any words of wisdom? Thanks, Adam

New PR Inks are Here!

7/16/2002: Sam - Pendemonium

Our shipment of the two new PR colors, Black Cherry and Sonic Blue arrived this morning (Tuesday). Sonic Blue is a bluish-black with greyish undertones, sort of a slate blue color. Black Cherry is well ... black cherry, not burgundy, this has a bit more brown in it, so a deep dark red.

Always nice to see new ink colors, not makeovers over of old ink colors! We'll get samples up on the website soon.

We're ready to start shipping the new colors now! Just drop us an emailto order.

Good Collecting! Sam
sam@pendemonium.com
http://www.pendemonium.com

Sonic Blue and Black Cherry
	7/16/2002: Russ Stutler
	Now I know why my ears were burning! I come over here and find my name mentioned twice! Anyway, last night I tried out these two new colors in a very flexible dip pen in my pen and ink sample journal. Of course, flex dip pens make a very dark, saturated line than your average fountain pen, so keep that in mind. The Private Sonic Blue turns out to be a wonderful blue black. I am a big blue black fan, and this one really excited me when I tried it. It has more of a warm hue than Midnight Blues, but it's just as dark. While Midnight Blues is a very dark blue, this Sonic Blue is closer in hue to blue black. It's like Waterman blue black on steroids; very rich and vibrant. The Black cherry is exactly what you would expect; a very, very dark red. Red with dignity! Easy to read, and yet no mistaking that this is red. Now I can write a letter in red without being accused of taking a walk on the wild side. As for famous PR "laxative" qualities, these two are on the same side of the fence as most of the others and not on the Tanzanite/Plum side. Congratulations to Private Reserve inks on two very useful colors! The (ahem) "humble" Russ

Swan cap
	7/16/2002: david
	would any one have or know where I could purchase a gold lizzard skin mossaic cap for a mabie todd swan.

NEW NEW NEW Sonic Blue and Black Cherry - from Private Reserve Inks
	7/16/2002: Len Provisor
	Just this week these new PR inks are being delivered to your favorite ink dealers. Both are exceptionally unique in color and richness, unlike anything I can compare to others in this color range. By coincidence I sent some to the #1 PR Fan Russ Stutler in Japan, which incredibly arrived in almost exactly 50 hours from Illinois, in spite of a growing typhoon approaching Tokyo today. To me...the Sonic Blue looks like an old Fender guitar I once knew, and the Black Cherry looks like......real Black Cherry. So call your favorite ink dealer, fill up your favorite pen and let's discuss.

Montegrappa Silver Dragon 1995 + Matching Dragon Inkwell WANTED
	7/16/2002: George G
	Hello, I am looking for a brandnew/mint condition Montegrappa Silver Dragon 1995 LE with Matching Dragon Inkwell. Will consider buying separate item if no pair available. Please kindly contact me at geoguo@hotmail.com if you have it available for sales Thanks George Guo

Parker 75 pen / pencil
	7/15/2002: Daniel Owasu
	I am looking for a mint condition Parker 75 Classic ball pen and pencil set in sterling silver. This is a very famous push button type set in criss cross pattern. Let me know if you want to sell it.

parker minim
	7/15/2002: Bryan
	Any information out there about a Parker Minim pen? Does it take the new Parker Gel Refills? Thanks

Platinum Music Pen Special

7/15/2002: Richard Jarvis

We have a limited number of Platinum Music pens left after our sale this weekend. Here's the offer: Buy the Platinum Music pen at $189 and we'll pay for the shipping AND include a bottle of Private Reserve ink in the color of your choice from those listed on our website. For this offer, you must reply by e-mail and not order directly from the site.

Here's the link to the pen:
http://www.penspiration.com/platinum_pens.html

We also have a very few Pelikan 730s and 430s available.Sterling silver caps on both; the 730 has a sterling covered piston knob. Price: $179 plus shipping for your choice. E-mail for availability and nib choices.

Thanks,
Richard Jarvis
http://www.penspiration.com
Stylish tools for inspired written communication

Special: Yard-o-Led
	7/15/2002: Regina Martini
	We currently selling in ebay some solid sterling silver Yard-o-Led pens. Great quality, great price. Check it out: seller: pencollectorscorner. Only a limited quantity. A lot of stuff which camed back from a shop is already in ebay (seller: martini.de), and more TESTER pens are coming this week. Thanks for looking.

Ancora Closeout Sale
	7/14/2002: Maryann at PenstopOnline
	Hi Everyone: We have some one of a kind Ancora closeouts for sale this week. Ancora Gaudi Green/Vermeil fountain pen Limited Edition 200 pieces List Price: $595 - Sale: $299 Ancora Gaudi Yellow/Silver fountain pen Limited Edition 200 pieces List Price: $495 - Sale: $249 Ancora Gaudi Yellow/Silver Rollerball Limited Edition 200 pieces List Price: $365 - Sale: $185. Ancora Toscana green fountain pen Limited Edition 500 pieces List Price: $350 - Sale: $175. All pens are factory fresh, mint in box, not inked or dipped, all papers, boxes, and warantys. All have medium 18kt gold nibs. First email to respond gets their pick

Warehouse Find! NOS Pelikan M400's and 600's OLD STYLE!
	7/14/2002: Jon Rosenbaum
	Have aquired some terrific new old stock Pelikan 400's and 600's (some pens marked "W. Germany") from a long closed pen and stationary store. The pens come in the neat black plastic clamshell cases complete with papers and outer cardboard slip box. The 400's are equiped with 14k gold nibs (single color), have nicer trim than the newer versions, I believe. The 600's are the same size as the 400's but have additional GP trim ring on the barrel near at the piston knob and a second GF cap ring and are equiped with 18k single color nibs. Here's what's available: M400 Green OM flexy nib $110, M400 Green XF nib $100, TORTISE (gorgeous!) B Flex nib $135. Black M600's--one each B flex nib and OM flex $115 ea; F and XF $110 ea. BURGUNDY M600's--2 B flex nibs @ $125 ea, one F nib and 2 XF nibs @ $120 ea. Add $7.00 for insured priority mail for domestic USA shipment. Multiple pens shipping cost will be determined based on total number. Checks OK, money orders preferred. First confirming email gets 'em. Thanks Jon R

WARNING!!! Possible Fraud Auctions on Penbid
	7/14/2002: 555-1212
	WARNING!!! There is a new seller on Penbid named "CAMPEANU". He is selling high end pens out of Craiova, Dj, RO. However, go to David Nishimura's website (vintagepens.com) and look at the same pens and photo's for the Parker #15 Slab Filigree, the Waterman Patrician set and the Waterman #12 Gold Filigree Sleeve Filler!! Check it out for yourself!! BEWARE out there as this type of fraud does happen!!!

Penpointe.de & Pelikan Phoenix Pen
	7/14/2002: Fritz
	It might help if you got the name right - Penpoint.de

Penpointe.de & Pelikan Phoenix Pen
	7/14/2002: Kevin
	Penlover People, Anyone know if the people at "Penpointe.de" ever do answer their emails? I sent this person several emails on purchasing a Pelikan Phoenix and never once had the courtesy of a reply. Are these people just not courteous or do others of you get the same treatment?

His Nibs.com update
	7/14/2002: Norman Haase
	Hello all! From now until end-of-day Monday, July 15th, the Sheaffer School ballpoints are all 50% off of the listed price. These sale pens are not eligible for the Monthly Special: http://www.hisnibs.com/school.htm I've made a permanent reduction in price to $4.00 per bottle for the Doctor Blue/Black ink, as those that remain all have ink-stained bottles and/or boxes as a result of spillage from other bottles during shipment from China: http://www.hisnibs.com/ink.htm Auction-wise, for eBay, please click on the following link and then type in "palace" (without the quotes) in the Single Seller box to see what's closing in the next few days: http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html For Penbid, it's also "palace" in the Search By Seller box: http://pen.luxbid.com/Auction/XcAPSearch.asp Don't forget to take advantage of the July Special when ordering non-sale items from the website: http://www.hisnibs.com/specials.htm Regards, Norman Haase His Nibs.com www.hisnibs.com

No Mention Anywhere Of...
	7/14/2002: Christopher
	I just ordered three bottles of Fahrney's Plum, three bottles of Fahrney's Forrest Green and three bottles of Fahrney's Blue (based upon the examples shown in Gregg Clark's very fine The Ink Sampler). I have seen absolutely no mention of these colors on any alt.collecting.pens-pencils postings either good or bad except one that claimed that it is made by Bexley. I was told by the people at Private Reserve that the ink under the Bexley label is their ink (Private Reserve ink) which Bexley puts his own label on. Why are the Fahrney inks and colors so conspicuously absent from any mention? Is it possible that no one else has used the above three colors? If anyone out there has used these specific colors and/or has had experience with other Fahrney colors please e-mail me directly at christopherfrank@att.net Thank you in advance for your time and attention.

For Sale
	7/13/2002: Mark
	Greetings, Offered for sale: Pelikan 1000, Green, E/F nib, inked once - like new, great writer, comes with box. Waterman leather pen case for 3 pens, made like a cigar case, Pelikan 1000 fits, new in box. These are no longer made, very high quality leather, retailed for ~$110. Best reasonable offers. Thanks, Mark

FS: OMAS Jeruslem and Return to Motherland
	7/13/2002: Alan Bedrick
	Folks, I have two OMAS limited editions for sale - the Jerusalem and the Return to Motherland. Both are mint in box, never dipped, written with, etc. Complete with all packaging, documents, papers, etc. Retail on each of them was somewhere around $1,750...each of these is delivered anywhere in the U.S., Federal Express for $625. First email, etc. Best regards, Alan

Parker 51 / First Year Pens
	7/13/2002: Pat Burns
	I see on teh bottom of the Blind Cap the Parker USA and the number 1. Is this the complete mark or should it be more like 1941 ? Thanks Pat Burns pjmb@pacbell.net

NYC Pen Show coming soon
	7/13/2002: Len Provisor
	Quickly following the DC show will be Steve and Maryann Zucker's NYC Pen Show. Last year was the very first NYC pen show, and it was a memorable event. This year the show promises to be even more exceptional, since Maryann never does anything less than grand. With about 7 million people within walking distance to this show, you can be sure there will be a good attendance. Already over 120 tables are booked, the show is being held at The Helmsley and an entire floor is reserved for wall-to-wall pens. If you have plans to come in to attend, make your reservations now while rooms are still available. This year a pen auction will again be featured, and Maryann is now taking pens for this auction...both vintage and new. Seminars, repairs, tons of ink and papers and of course...it's NEW YORK, it just doesn't get any better. See the Pen Show links for more info and take a look at the photo journal from the 2001 NYC Pen Show. Maryann will post more info as it becomes available.

Get "Binderized" at the DC Pen Show and more news
	7/13/2002: Len Provisor
	The Washington, DC pen show is coming up quickly Aug 8-11 and I look forward to seeing many Pentracers, Zossers and Penlovers. Richard Binder and Don Fluckinger will have a table filled with many surprises, including some of his magic nibs which we can actually test befoe purchase. I suggest all Pentracers and Penlovers who attend descend on his table immediately on Saturday for first pickin's. I promise they will not last long. Private Reserve Inks has a surprise giveaway at the door also, probably the most beautiful ink blotter I ever made, and it was totally created by humble Russ Stutler. This design will also be made into a poster which will plaster the walls. Terry will also release two new inks, so be sure to see your favorite ink dealer. Mr Nagahara from Sailor pen will continue to "Wow" the crowd with his very unusual nibs. This is one exhibit that is a must see. Delta, the show sponsor is giving away about 500 commemorative ink bottles at the door, so be sure to get there early the day you attend. The Delta exhibit is usually at the entrance in the Foyer along with most of the new pen dealers. Fountain Pen Hospital and the "boys" always have 3 or 4 tables loaded with eye candy..be sure to get your 2002 catalogs and they may have their famous calenders left also. For some really prime vintage pens be sure to see Steve and Maryann Zucker at PENSTOP, who also carry many new pens such as Krone, Delta, Conklin and the amazing LOIMINCHAY, including a Mandarin to die for. Ahem...I'll have some nice toy airplanes. The two Parker DC3s will be the last in the series of Parker corporate aircraft. Geoffrey Parker will also attend, he looks forward to meeting Pentracers and Penlovers...so Pentracers, be sure to wear your bright yellow Snailee badges. Miroslav Tischler, author of the Penkala pens book will be attending, this is his first visit to the U.S. and is very excited. His famous book on Penkala pens will be available as a show special for only $50. Dov Randel will also visit from Israel, he is one of the founders of the new Israel Pen Club. This is his first visit and you can imagine his excitement. Dov is a Pentracer, he'll love to meet you. Pentrace will be represented at my table with free ink blotters. Many other dealers will have ink blotters also, so time to load up on free samples...be sure to ask for them. Dean Tweeddale of Penlovers will be on hand with free pens for kids donated by Chartpak/Pelikan. I'll have plenty of those bright yellow Snailee Pentrace badges at my table, but you can write, call or e-mail me I will be happy to send some to you before. BTW, some rooms are still available at the Marriott nearby at the same show rate of $79. You can e-mail Bob Johnson to inquire.

Montblanc Rose Gold
	7/13/2002: Keith
	I have a Montblanc Rose Gold 146 Doue Fountain Pen and its corresponding Rose Gold 162 RB for sale. Both are unused and in mint condition - please contact me if interested.

FS: 10K Gold Filled Cross Townsend NEW
	7/13/2002: Richard
	I have one 10K Gold Filled Cross Townsend with 14K M nib, new in box with all papers, in A1 condition (never inked or dipped). This pen lists for $210.00, Joon has it for $157.50 plus shipping. My price is $150.00 plus $7.50 for Priority Mail shipping with Delivery Confirmation and $200.00 insurance (USA only, foreign buyers please email for shipping costs). For $25.00 additional, I will regrind the nib to a fine stub.

Pelikan Dynasty & Dragon L.E. Pens Wanted
	7/13/2002: Bruce
	If anyone has either a Pelikan Dynasty L.E. or a Pelikan Dragon L.E. pen for sale, please contact me. Submit condition of pen, boxes, etc along with L.E. serial number and your reasonable price. Private Collector. Thank you

pen cap
	7/12/2002: Harry
	Out of exactly 2,468 different Waterman models since 1884 it might help if the pen was identified.

Chicago Pen Club meeting Sun Jul14 2pm
	7/12/2002: Len Provisor
	Our next meeting will be hosted by Richard Houser at his offices in Oakbrook Terrace, this Sunday about 2pm. 1815 South Meyers Road Suite 100 Oakbrook Terrace, IL 60181 Richard's phone number is 847.919.0874 The office is 1/2 mile north of Butterfield Road on Meyers, turn into parking lot, tell security guard your are going to Suite 100. If coming from I55, exit at Oakbrook to Buttefield Rd. Call or e-mail if you have questions or need directions. Enter this address into www.mapquest.com for a printable map. Look forward to seeing some new faces

SCPCC Meeting
	7/12/2002: John Maloney
	The next meeting of the Southern California Pen Collectors Club will be held on Saturday, July 13 from noon to 3:00 at the Fountain Pen Shop in Monrovia, CA. E-Mail me for directions, or call Fred Krinke at (626)294-9974. We usually have a good turnout, with lots of vintage pens for the choosing. See you there.

NOS Esterbrook school pens
	7/12/2002: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	These are 1950's Esterbrook "school pens" and from what I have been able to find out they are not that common. The pens are New Old Stock - never used, lever filler with rubber sacs - with new boxed medium Venus "Renewable" points. Barrels are black with screw on chrome plated caps. These particular pens were bought in Canada - clip is marked "ESTERBROOK". $15 each plus $2.00 shipping image at: http://www.gulftel.com/gnoza/blk4school.jpg

I will be at the Washington, D.C., show
	7/12/2002: Richard
	In case you were wondering (or even if you weren't), the answer is yes! I will be at the Washington, D.C., show in August. Together with Don Fluckinger, I will have a table at the show. We will have a few pens, post cards, anatomy posters, vintage pen ads, and handmade Northern Woods pen rests for sale. I will have a supply of custom-ground Pelikan M200 nibs in crisp and cusive italic, crisp and cursive left- and right-footed oblique, and stub, for sale for $35.00 each. These nibs fit M200, M2520, M400, and M600 pens. I will have demonstrator pens available for you to test nibs and decide your preference. After you've purchased your choice, you can get instant gratification by dropping over to the Swisher Pens table, where Chuck and Chun will be offering for sale Pelikan pens that will accept these nibs. I will also be regrinding nibs for walk-up customers, for $30.00 each. I can grind any of the above shapes, with modifications particularly suited to your unique way of holding a pen. Most dramatic results can be obtained if I start from a broad nib, but I need at least a medium nib to produce an italic or oblique. (I can also regrind a standard nib to make it smaller, such as converting a medium to a fine.) I look forward to seeing familiar faces and to meeting some new ones. See you in August!

Special Offer - Stipula Duetto Fountain Pens
	7/11/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	Purchase a Stipula Duetto Fountain Pen in either Montalcino Red or Seaweed Green through our web site and receive $13.00 off our regular great price of $175.00 for a total of $162.00 plus shipping. Nib choices available as noted in web site description. Please note that discount will be applied when your order is processed and your credit card is billed and will not appear on your order acknowledgement form. View the Montalcino Red and the Seaweed Green Duetto Pens at www.avalonpens.com

pen cap
	7/11/2002: Emily LaBarbera
	Hello, I am looking for a place to buty a cap for my waterman fountain pen - I lost mine. Any suggestions?

Melbourne Vintage Pens
	7/11/2002: Peter Ford
	I’ve just updated my Melbourne Vintage Pens site www.vintagepens.com.au (long overdue). The update includes some hard to find Parker 51 Mk II’s & Mk III’s, as well as a few Pelikan Limited Editions. Free delivery (by hand) to those of you travelling to the D.C. Show next month. See you there!

parker 25 ball point pen
	7/11/2002: bruce
	I am looking for a Parker 25 ball point pen. If you have one please contact me with your address and a price. Thanks

PaperMate refills
	7/11/2002: DLK
	Hi, I am trying to find the papermate refills that were called their "piggy back" refill. You had two refills stuck together one inside the other and you could pull them apart as needed. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

FS: OMAS ROMA 2000 Gold Plated Limited Edition

7/11/2002: salman

Selling the limited edition Omas Roma 2000 Brand new and never inked. Complete with all papers and box. Comes in the 18 K gold medium nib.

References avilable on request. Price 1550 USD + 35 Insured Worldwide Shipping.

Hope to hear from you soon and take care.

FS: NIB Caran D'Ache Limited Editions

7/11/2002: salman

Hi. For sale are brand new, never inked, medium nib, complete in box Caran D'Ache La Modernista No. 1019/1888 for 2500 USD + 50 USD Insured Shipping Anywhere in the World.

Also available Caran D'Ache Riveira Limited Edition Fountain pens and Roller Balls in Red and Green with gold vermeil plated design. Brand new and never inked. 1330 USD for the fountain pen and 1210 USD for the Roller Ball. Insured Worldwide Shipping 35 USD for the Fountain pen and 30 USD for the Roller ball. References are available on request.

If you require the matching limited edition lighter for the Riviera sets they are also available. Hope to hear from you soon and take care.

PEN CLUB OF INDIA MEETING
	7/10/2002: ASHOK JAIN
	MEETING DATE:14 JULY , 2002 VENUE:2/26 ANSARI ROAD , NEW DELHI.110002 INDIA. TIME:5.30 PM WE WILL WELCOME OUR 7 NEW MEMEBERS. ALL ARE INVITED.

Listen to a squadron of Parker Pen Co DC3s
	7/10/2002: Len Provisor
	This is a very serious test Go to my website WWW.INKBLOTTERS.COM As soon as you access the site you should hear the sound of four Parker Pen Co DC3s flying over your desk, assuming you have speakers and they are cranked up a bit...for best results Not everyone will hear this...I am interested to hear from those who do NOT hear this sound. It is a MP3 sound wave, and should be audible to anyone with Internet Explorer V.4 or better. My purpose is to see if this will work, unfortunately for some reason I do not hear this. Supposedly 85% or more of all computers should be able to hear this. Images of the new Parker DC3 models will be loaded on the site shortly, tickets for free rides will be available Thanks for your help.

CP6 Reviews

7/10/2002: Andreas Lambrou

Dear Collectors,

Many of you are aware of our forthcoming new CP edition, the CP6 Pelikan pens -- Marguerite (M1000 size) and Charlotte (M800 size), limited edition of just 500 duets.

The first article to appear on this new series was Stylophiles February issue. This article was written by Bill Riepl and Dyas Anna Lawson. If you wish to view details, please go to: http://www.PenLovers.net/stylophiles/feb02/02cp6.htm>

We are very pleased to advise that the CP6 pens have just been award the front cover of the Dutch magazine, PEN. To view an image of the new issue, please go to: http://images.andale.com/f2/109/104/7965980/1026330865433_Pen_Magazine_CP6_cover.jpg

If you are not aware of the European magazine for pens, it is launched through PW Akkerman in Holland, a well respected and long established pen retailer. For further information about this magazine, their website can be located at: http://www.pw-akkerman.nl/

Should you need further information on CP6, please contact Andreas Lambrou by e-mail: ClasPenInc@aol.com or telephone our Los Angeles office on: 1-323-658-7367 or fax: 1-323-658-8886.

Enjoy!

Florida pen collectors
	7/10/2002: Paul
	Hello All, I was wondering if there were any fountain pen collectors in the Orlando, FL area. Perhaps interested in getting together to brag about collections ;)

Sailor Catalog and DC Show
	7/10/2002: Rob Cole
	Hello all... Just a note to all of you that have requested the new Sailor Catalog; They're in.. We will begin sending them out by 7/12.. So I haven't forgotten you if you've requested one directly from me... If you would like one, please drop me a line. Also, just a reminder if you've been under a rock, Mr. Nagahara will be at the DC Show, and is very excited to be back. If you would like more information or a catalog, I'll be happy to assist you. I'll post later with further updates regarding DC. We at Sailor are very excited for all of you who that will have the chance to see Nagahara in Action!!! See you there. Rob Cole

For Sale: Very Rare Montblanc Precious Dragon 88 Fountain Pen
	7/10/2002: L H Wang
	I have for sale one of the rarest Montblanc Limited Edition fountain pens ever. It is the Montblanc Precious Dragon 88 (aka The Diamond Creation). This pen was released for sale only in Asia and limited to only 88 pieces. Needless to say all have been spoken for. This is perhaps the hardest & most valuable MB limited edition to find in the market today. The pen is brand new and never used or dipped. It does come complete with all boxes & documentations. If interested please contact me for a price & pictures. But serious inquiries only please. Thank you.

Hallmark Pens
	7/10/2002: Stan Olsen
	I am looking for a Hallmark pen. It has a gold colored tip, cap/barrel band and pocket clip. A many were made in varying wood coloration. The one I prefer is the light walnut colored wood. Anyone having any of this pens please let me know.

Pelikan roller refill
	7/10/2002: roller king
	I beliebe Itoya makes a red rollerball refill that fits pelikans

Tips for a Beginner in Pen Collections
	7/10/2002: David
	1) Buy some pen books 2) decide what you like 3) find a reputable dealer 4) try going to a pen show 5) do price comparisons 6) start buying less expensive models on ebay, then.... 7) with experience (i.e. knowing when NOT to bid/buy) pick up all you need on ebay 8) don't look back

Montblanc Writers Series available
	7/10/2002: JiaXian
	Hi, I have available the following Montblanc Writers Series pens. Marcel Proust FP $629 Dumas FP $545 Dumas BP $349 All pens are mint in box with packaging save for the Dumas BP which is missing its outer slip cover. Prices are in USD and exclusive of shipping. Payment via bank draft, money order or telegraphic transfer. Lots of references available. Regards, JiaXian Singapore

Tips for a Beginner in Pen Collections
	7/10/2002: Dr. Herminio B. Giron
	How I wish somebody could help me giving tips and advise on how I can have a wonderful collections of pens even those not available in the Philippines but I can access internationally.

Poison Inks - yes
	7/10/2002: Len Provisor
	Poison ink was the culprit tool in the book _The Name of the Rose_ by Umberto Eco. If ever in doubt of the ink you touch is laced by a maniacal stalker or mad fellow employee...just be sure to not lick your thumb when leafing through inky written snail mail.

nibs etc.
	7/10/2002: scaupaug@aol.com
	Is it OK to get a web page posted here or does the software still break it up? Lets see - http://members.aol.com/scaupaug/earrings/index.html -

Red Rollerball Refills for Pelikan Rollerball?
	7/10/2002: Alan Bedrick
	I am looking for red rollerball refills that will fit my 800-sized Pelikan rollerball. I think Pelikan only makes black or blue refills. Does anyone know of any other manufacturer's rollerball that will fit? Thanks! Alan

More hotel rooms available for DC Pen Show
	7/9/2002: Len Provisor
	Bob Johnson has advised me that not only is the hotel sold out, but 20% over the bookings from last year at the Ritz. Here is some info on rooms available at a nearby Marriott. Marriott Residence Inn. 2 blocks from the Sheraton. Studio Apartments with a kitchen. Full hot buffet breakfast included. They are matching the Supershow Rate of $79 for Thursday through Sunday. 8616 Westwood Ctr Dr, Vienna, Va 22182 .2 miles from the Sheraton See pictures of outside. http://photos.yahoo.com/residence_inn_tysons_corner This rate will not be in the computer. The only way to get it is to Call the Director of Sales, Mr David Krauthamer( 1-703-893-0120, ext 7136), next week, Tuesday through Friday between 8:30 -4:30 EST. We have up to 30 rooms at this rate for Friday and Saturday with a reduced number on Thursday and Sunday. My sister drove out 2 days ago. It is 2 blocks from the Sheraton along access roads. Very close. Please email Bob Johnson at bjohnson@pencentral.com if you are going to call David on Tuesday so that he can keep track the number of rooms that he needs. If you have any intention of attending, don't hesitate, make our reservations now. This is one HUGE show. How big? Big enough to hold two Parker DC3s

B. Sleuth & Statesman, Inc Toronto pen dealer
	7/9/2002: Len Provisor
	Well known in Toronto and co-sponsor of the Canadian Writig Equipment Collectors Society they are located at 130 King St W. The Exchange Tower in Toronto. Phone 416.363.7575, I don't have an e-mail for them.

Toronto Dealers
	7/9/2002: B Ketchen
	I have recently lost my Parker fountain Pen and am looking for a good dealer in Toronto Canada. I originally purchased through Pencraft , but they have closed. Please give me some dealer names if you can. Thank-you in advance for your help. B Ketchen

Poison Ink
	7/9/2002: Lucy
	Hi, can anyone tell me if fountain pen inks are poisonous ? If so which ones ?

Re: Nib problems: Montblanc 149 and Marlen Chagall
	7/9/2002: Richard
	Most damaged or improperly ground nibs are repairable. Depending on how badly the Montblanc's nib is damaged, it might be only a minor tweak, or it might be more extensive. The Marlen Chagall is almost certainly easy to fix; the reluctance to start is most usually due to an improper tip shape that the manufacturer applied in an attempt to make the nib super smooth. I am one of several nib workers who can deal with these problems; please visit my site: http://www.richardspens.com/

marlen chagall
	7/9/2002: Bryan
	I received a marlen chagall as a birthday present. 18k nib, medium point. Skips alot and difficult to initiate inkflow at the beginning of a word. I even tried the highly touted Waterman Florida blue ink but no real improvement. My $40 Phileas is much better. Any & all comments would be appreciated.

PenBid
	7/9/2002: Esther
	Since there were a few questions posted about problems getting on PenBid, here is what we know. We have been notified by PenBid that they should be back on line within 24 hours. They lost their server's IP address. We all hope to see them on line again. Have a great day!

Esterbrook items for sale
	7/8/2002: Andrew J. Gnoza, III
	8 - MIB black Esterbrook CA101 - Esterbrook box, instruction sheet, 2 dried out ink cartridges, 2668 medium nib. $21each plus $2 shipping for one pen. image at: http://www.gulftel.com/gnoza/101black.jpg___1 - MIB blue Esterbrook CA101 - Esterbrook box, instruction sheet, 2 dried out ink cartridges, 2556 fine nib. $25 plus $2 shipping. pen image at: http://www.gulftel.com/gnoza/101blue1.jpg___Esterbrook ink cartridges - dried out however they can be refilled with a hypodermic needle. $1.00 each plus $1.50 shipping. image at: http://www.gulftel.com/gnoza/101carts.jpg___CA101 converters - these are remanufactured items and not original Esterbrook items - they work with all CA101'2 that use the ink cartridges. $10 each + $2 shipping. image at: http://www.gulftel.com/gnoza/101conv.jpg___

Damaged Montblanc Meisterstück 149
	7/8/2002: Ken Schechter
	My son won a Montblanc Meisterstück 149 pen about 5 years ago. Upon opening the box for the first time, he dropped the pen on the kithcen floor and damaged the nib. The nib appeared to to be separated more than it should so I attempted to gently squeeze the nib back together again. Any advice on getting this repaired? Can nibs be adjusted or do they need to be replaced. It does write but doesn't look quite right. Thanks.

Centennial Prices
	7/8/2002: Saul
	Prashant, If you found a P/B Centennial Duofold that is not in diminished condition for $210, that is about as low as I would think you'll find one. Of course, if you keep looking, you could find one for less. How much time and energy and passage of time is another $10 in savings worth to you? Saul

Penbid???
	7/8/2002: Munawar A Rana
	What happen to www.penbid.com??? Anyone have any Idea?????

ST Dupont nibs
	7/8/2002: Johan
	Hi, Does anyone else have an ST Dupont? There is an Stylophiles article on the Statue of Liberty which say the Dupont nib is very smooth. I myself have a Orpheo with a fine nib. I'm having problems with it. It skips and the ink flow seems a bit inconsistent, perhaps it's the flex to the nib? I also find it a bit scrathcy and when I write at a good pace, I can actually hear the nib scratching the paper. Is this normal? Do you think ST Dupont can make any adjustments to this? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

rollerball refills for Pelikan
	7/8/2002:
	The only other refill I have found that fits the Pelikans are those made by Itoya. They are pretty good and reasonably priced. I prefer fine pelikan refills which are very expensive. A little known fact is that Cross selectip ball pen refills fit the Lamy Swift Good Luck, The Roller King

nib smoothing methods
	7/8/2002: Michael Plewa
	I would like to use a very fine 1 micron carbide sheet to improve the smoothness of new Sheaffer nibs. I would appreciate advice on making this minor adjustment and improving the smoothness of my everyday pen.

Parker Duofold Pearl
	7/8/2002: Prashant Chopra
	Hi everyone, I am looking for the Parker Duofold Centennial Pearl-Black and Pearl/Gray at the best possible prices. So far, the lowest prices I have found are about US$210. Does anybody know where better prices can be found. Thanks---

Parker 75 Keepsake Prototype and Damier Vermeil BP for Sale
	7/8/2002: Lee Chait
	It is now 525am and I'm off to the Corvette Factory and Museum and then on to Janesville . Just available last night are two rare Parker 75 pens. Damier Vermeil BP $500 and a Keepsake Prototype at $1600. You can see the Keepsake at www.Parker75.com. It is variant 1 of Prototype 13 in the Reference section. It will be Sat. before I return or have access to my email.

Pelikan Refills

7/7/2002: Richard Jarvis

In response to an earlier posting, Pelikan does make the 338 rollerball refill in a fine point. We have them available in blue and black. My wife the rollerball user reports satisfactory performance with these refills.

Thanks,
Richard Jarvis

Berlin/Stockholm at Penspiration

7/7/2002: Richard Jarvis

Hi all:

We have one each of the Berlin and Stockholm pens with medium nibs available for immediate shipping. Respond to this e-mail and get an additional five percent discount for a final price of $208 plus shipping. First firm e-mails get the pens. Buy now before these are completely gone as Pelikan is tooling up for the next pens in this series -- San Francisco/Madrid. (By the way, we will accept advance orders for these pens as well)

Also, we have the new model Platinum Music Pen, which is based on a different, slimmer model of pen than the older version featured in this month's issue of Stylophiles. This pen has a nice feel in the hand and writes beautifully and would be perfect for those who like a slimmer pen. Our price: $189 plus shipping. Go to the following link for a better look:

http://www.penspiration.com/platinum_pens.html

By the way, we also have the cool Hobbit Journal featured in the picture of the Music Pen available now as well. Price: Only $5.95 plus shipping. For a better look, go to:

http://www.penspiration.com/journals_notebooks.htm

Thanks,
Richard Jarvis

Paging Melinda
	7/7/2002: Carla Mortensen
	Melinda -- Contact me back-channel at carla_mortensen@hotmail.com regarding room at the Sheraton. Carla

re: Parker Deluxe Challenger
	7/7/2002: Waco Johnny D
	Go to www.richardspens.com for an explanation of how Snorkels work, along with a visual demo of the guts in action, and for a great repair man who can get your Challenger restored. Ask Richard to smooth the nib while the pen's being restored, it's worth it. WJD

lady jotter
	7/7/2002: peter
	Hi everyone, I am searching for 1 or 2 lady jotters made by Parker until 1980's. Lady jotter is the smaller version of the wellknown jotter. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance Peter Destoop Belgium - Europe

Juan Sanchez Pen Auctions on Penbid
	7/7/2002: Bwp
	Anyone know an email address for Juan Sanchez of California that has pens on Penbid? I would like to make and email bid on his Parker Mandarin Jr. put Penbid is down (what's new there!) THanks!

Vintage Fountain Pens & Vintage Pen Specials
	7/7/2002: Terry @ Avalon Pens
	We have updated both the Vintage Fountain Pen section and the Vintage Pen Specials section of our web site with some new additions to the pen selections featured therein. Visit us at www.avalonpens.com.

Trade.....
	7/7/2002: tim
	want to trade blue Waterman Charleston rollerball for Waterman Carene, E'talon, or Preface rollerball

Penbid Trouble
	7/6/2002: Brian
	Help! Anyone else have difficulty getting into Penbid from the West Coast, USA in the last several days? I haven't been able to get a connection to them in the last two days at least? What's up?

His Nibs.com update -- Sheaffer roller ball sale
	7/6/2002: Norman Haase
	Hello all! From now until end-of-day Monday, July 8th, Sheaffer Balance and Crest roller balls are all 30% off of the listed price. These sale pens are not eligible for the Monthly Special: http://www.hisnibs.com/balance_ii.htm http://www.hisnibs.com/crest.htm Auction-wise, I again have a number of the golf hole pen rests for auction on eBay (just click on 'View Seller's Other Items' when you use the following link to see what else I have closing tomorrow): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2117934455 Don't forget to take advantage of the July Special when ordering non-sale items from the website: http://www.hisnibs.com/specials.htm Regards, Norman Haase His Nibs.com www.hisnibs.com

Pelikan Rollerball Refills?
	7/6/2002: Daniel
	Does anyone know of a good rollerball refill that can be used in the Pelikan M600 Rollerball? I have a Pelikan M600 Fountain Pen & Rollerball. I love both except for one thing, the Rollerball Refill (338M) is a real disappointment. One, Pelikan doesnt' have a fine point available. Two, and most important, the ink doesn't flow uniformly and only flows if the tip is down. I'm a therapist is use my pen for notes when with clients. PROBLEM: if I hold a tablet in my lap, the ink "dries out" and I have to shake the pen or return to a flat position with the tip down. Haven't had that problem with the Quill refills, but even though Quill says their refill will work with Pelikan, it won't with the M600.

1997 Snowflake
	7/6/2002: Herb Hemming
	I had an email exchange a while back with someone who was looking for a Sheaffer 1997 Snowflake pen. I cannot find that person's email but believe he reads this board. I noticed this morning this pen is for sale at www.rosspens.com.

YOU SET THE PRICE SALE
	7/6/2002: Mike krut
	I FORGOT--EMAIL me at Goldennib@aol.com for a copy of my list of pens! Mike

YOU SET THE PRICE SALE
	7/6/2002: Mike Krut
	I have been having a great time wheeling and dealing for pens. Here is an example of some great deals some people have gotten for working, restored and guaranteed pens!!!! Mike 1. Red pen, single jewel, full sized Esterbrook, predecessor to J type, 3 lines on clip, blood red translucent cap jewel with 3 parallel bars, rare, NOS 9314-M relief nib, excellent condition. This is the first colored jewel I have ever seen on this model Esterbrook - $55.00--SOLD FOR $40.00 11. Circa 1936 Sheafer balance, black, gold filled trim, lever filler, vest pocket size, fine two-tone 14K #5 nib, no brassing, 4 13/16" long - $45.00--SOLD FOR $30.00 3. 1943 Debutante, Parker Vacuumatic, Azure blue, gold filled trim, single jewel, blue diamond clip, jewelers cap band, 14K fine nib, no brassing. These pens are rarer than Maximas - $75.00--SOLD FOR $60.00 4. 1945 Parker Vacuumatic, emerald pearl, gold filled trim, blue diamond clip, single cap jewel, medium 14K nib, no brassing - $95.00--SOLD 5. 1941 Major Parker Vacuumatic, black, gold filled trim, double jewel, blue diamond clip, aluminum speed filler, fine nib, no brassing - $100.00--SOLD FOR $82.00 17. Circa 1935 Parker Parkette's Zephyr, black, unusual clip which has an upturned end rather than the usual ball, lever filler, gold filled trim, no brassing, M 14K nib, visulated section, pen inscribed "S-V Prize Award". This is an unusual pen - $35.00--SOLD FOR $25.00 E. 51, Dark navy blue, standard size, 51 special, steel cap, black cap jewels, fine nib. I have two of these at $45.00 each--ONE OF THESE IS SOLD. SOLD FOR $35.00 H. 51, Demi sized, deep navy blue, lustraloy cap, F-M nib - $45.00--SOLD FOR $35.00

Wanted:
	7/6/2002: SyRinX
	Wanted to purchase: Complete Mont Blanc Writers Series. From 1992 to current, with the exception of the Dickens. (I already own) Interested only in ballpoint models! Thanks!

Sheaffer Pen 1030
	7/5/2002: Howard Baker
	I am looking for a replacement of a Sheaffer pen that has great sentimental value to my wife. I am looking for a Scheaffer Pen Model # 1030 "Timeless" in Thuya Laque with a mediume nib. If any pen lovers out there can relate to the loss of a beloved pen please come to our rescue

PENNA - italian magazine, it/eng text
	7/5/2002: Susanna
	The latest issue of PENNA (#50) is available at WWW.PENS.IT - In this issue, articles about Parker Duofold Accession, Pelikan Asian, Krone John Hancock, Marlen Liberty, and also bound books exhibition, and other vintage italian pens. ------- www.pens.it --------

Parker Deluxe Challenger
	7/4/2002: Will
	I recently inherited my grandfathers fountain pens and have two questions 1. How do I work a Sheaffer Snorkel filling device? and 2. I would like my Parker Deluxe Challenger restored.Anybody know a good person for the job- quality and cozt-effective- or should I go straight to FPH in NYC

Parker "51" Beechcraft airplane models
	7/4/2002: Len Provisor
	The Parker corporate aircraft models I have produced, starting with the famous 1928 "Duofold" Fairchild has been a fun project. My friend Dan Zazove ecouraged me with the original idea, and the generous help of Geoffrey S. Parker who provided much of the technical materials and his personal family archive photos. The Parker Pen Co. had several other aircraft in their fleet over the years, but frankly, we can only make so many planes as this really is a specialized interest to collectors. I would suggest that if you have any inkling to purchase any one of these models it would be wise to secure one now. Yeas from now they will be in high demand and total production was very limited. Duofolds, only 137...and a few were made by special request in a gorgeous Mandarin yellow. Maryann Zucker of PENSTOP has at least one available for sale. The Parker "51" Beechcrafts only 107 models were made, and the current and LAST corporate models are two Douglas DC3's. One from 1954 the N51A, and the 1960 N61A. Images can be seen at : http://www.inkblotters.com/len.htm I think the most gorgeous decoration is on the 1946 Beechraft model. The Parker Pen Co. has chosen to order this model Beechcraft in a smaller 12" wingspan version as a dealer store display gift to promote the new Parker "51" fountain pen due to be released in October. So if you really like Parker pen ephemera of a very limited nature, any of these models would be an obvious investment for years of pleasure. These models are numbered and personally signed by Geoffrey S. Parker. There just are not that many around. The DC3 models will be the last ones in the Parker corporate aircraft sales. However, I do have some more surprises for 2003 already in the works. Visit : http://www.inkblotters.com/len.htm to see the new DC3 models. Visit www.inkblotters.com to see the other models of the "Duofold" and the Beechcraft aircraft. Only a few dealers have extras of prior models, including Lee Chait.

Parker 51 Airplanes NC5151
	7/4/2002: Lee Chait
	Somehow I ended up with a fleet of these. I think Len tapped into my phone and placed an order in my name. In any event I plan to bring up to 3 to the DC Show if there is any interest in them. They are sold out and only available through buying from their current owners. Email me if you have interest.

YOU SET THE PRICE SALE!!
	7/4/2002: Mike Krut
	Dear Fellow Pen Collectors: A few weeks ago I listed 83 very nice working pens. I sold 20 of them and thus have 63 left. My wife feels that I overpriced the rest of the pens and that is the reason why they did not sell. She based that opinion on the fact that fountain pens, let alone working restored fountain pens, are very scarce at flea markets, antique shows, etc. (in the wild). Although some of the pens on ebay might appear to be cheaper, they really are not, when you add in the cost of repair, the breaking of the pen during your own repair attempt, or the hassle of returning the pen; because the seller "knew nothing about pens" when he took the picture of the pen with the hole facing away from the camera; my prices appeared to be correct. My no hassle return policy should have taken care of any insecurity from anyone who has not dealt with me before. I sent my list of pens to over 125 people all over the world. Dealing with a world market, one would assume there was a pen for every person. THEREFORE, I, AM HAVING A 'YOU SET THE PRICE SALE'. If I can live with your price (assuming it isn't too much less than I paid for the pen) WE HAVE A DEAL. Please email me for a list of the 63 pens for sale. All pens are guaranteed. All pens are in good+ to excellent condition, restored and working. Buyer pays actual postage. The first email wins. GOOD LUCK. Thank you for reading all of this. Mike Krut

DC Pen Show Rooms
	7/4/2002: Cliff Harrington
	I tried to respond directly to Melinda's note about hotel rooms at the DC Show, but my response bounced back. From Len Provisor's note, my assumption is that there are rooms at the Sheraton, but perhaps not at the special show rate. In any event, there are numerous other hotels in the area. If anyone needs suggestions, drop me a line; my office is only a few blocks from the Sheraton. Cliff


	7/4/2002: Cliff Harrington

Mont Blanc #164 Blowout
	7/4/2002: Mont Blanc #164
	Mont Blanc #164 Pen starting at $59.99 Go to: http://www.geocities.com/domainserver1/montblancsale.html

Oversight & Room Reservations
	7/3/2002: Lee Chait
	Having received an email from the Big Teddy Bear in Charge, Steve Z., yes I will be bringing my 75's to the NY Showi nthe hopes of raising convertible sports car or new Lexus money. I had signed up for the Show at the first opportunity back in January or February. Having seen a post about the rooms in DC and having accumulatd over 500,000 Marriot points I can tell you it is much easier to make reservations early and cancel them if you can't make it than it is to try and get something at the last minute. While five weeks ahead may seem like a long time especaily in the DC area during the summer it is not.

DC Pen Show
	7/3/2002: Melinda J. Adams
	I was very disappointed to find that there is no room for me at the Sheraton as of 7-1-02. Too bad, as I had a great deal on airfare. I am somewhat surprised at this snafu. However, I am not so trusting nor optimistic as to go ahead and make arrangements with my fingers crossed. Oh well. Hint: For those of you with any hope of room, I don't take up much space, and I don't snore. Best, pen

Sheaffer Desk Pen
	7/3/2002: Richard Seligman
	I am looking for a replacement for a Sheaffer Desk Pen. After nearly 40 years of constant use, it recently died. I'd prefer a cartridge fountain pen. Please let me know if you have any suggestions as to how I might get another one. Many thanks.

Houston Pen Show
	7/3/2002: Jan
	What happened to this year's Houston Pen Show. It's usually around the 10th of June, but as far as I know it wasn't around that date this year. I saw something indicating that it was the weekend of July 11th, but it is not showing up under that date in the Pen Shows directory. Next year's date is on there - but what happened to 2002?


	7/3/2002: Jan

Parker 75's in Stylophiles
	7/3/2002: Lee Chait
	The pens in the Stylophiles article are not for sale, however much of my Parker 75/Premier/T-1 and Parker artifacts collection is being sold prior to and during the DC and Columbus Shows. A current listing is available upon request. All are nos/mint or the best examples of specific 75's I've ben able to find and all are from my personal collection. Some are prototypes; some are rare; and some are fairly common but all are great pens. See you in DC.

Mont Blanc Hard to Find
	7/2/2002: Michael Rapps
	I have a few more Montblanc pens I would like to sell in order to buy some vintage ones. Please e-mail me if you are interested. 1- J.S. Bach (FP, BP) 2- 75th Anniversary LeGrand Pencil, Fountain Pen 3- Wedding Set 4- Mozart Coral (BP, MP, FP) 5- Czar Nikolai Malachite & Platinum Legrand FP. Thanks a lot. Michael

Greenwich Parker Duofold
	7/2/2002: Vince
	I am looking for a mint condition Greenwich Parker Duofold with the box and papers. Just broke the one I have and am forlorn. Am new to this community and am living in hope. mv

Montblanc Limited Editions
	7/2/2002: Stacey Peterson
	We have a great selection of past-release Montblanc Limited Editions currently in stock. For a complete list, see: http://www.worldpen.com/cgi-bin/show_manuf.cgi?field0=Montblanc#limiteds

4th of July Sale @ Swisher Pens
	7/2/2002: Chuck Swisher
	Dear Friends, We are having a 2 1/2-day "Independence Day" Sale. Instead of limiting this sale to just a few items, we've decided to offer 10% off everything in our on-line store for the next two days. Beginning now, we invite you to take advantage of this special savings by entering the coupon "July4th" in the "Enter Coupon" block on the order form in our shopping cart or you can mention it when calling to place your order. For items listed on our "What's New" page that require use of our regular "Secure" order form, just enter this coupon in the "Special Instructions" block on the order form and we will deduct 10% from the total of your order. If you call to place your order, please call tomorrow (3rd of July) as we will not be available to take telephone orders on the 4th of July. Thank you, we appreciate your business and wish all of you a Happy 4th of July! Best wishes, Chuck Swisher & Chun Lee, Swisher Pens, Inc. http://www.swisherpens.com, Tele: (757) 539-2209, TF: 888-340-PENS (7367), or Fax: (757) 471-4226

Washington, DC Pen Show
	7/2/2002: Len Provisor
	Bob Johnson has told me that rooms are up over 20% from last year's DC Pen Show. At $79./nite, I'm not surprised, quite a bargain and quite a show. NOTE: Rooms are sold out, BUT Bob has stated if you plan to attend, make your reservations anyway at regular rates and more rooms MAY open up by show time, giving you the show rate of $79. Go to PEN SHOWS on lfet of Home Page an click on DC Pen Show link for further News and information. Check this link for Show Info :http://pencentral.com/penshow/site2002/whatsnew2002.html

First images of new parker DC-3 airplane models
	7/2/2002: Len Provisor
	These are the first images of the DC-3 models as shot by Dean Tweeddale today. These and also vintage photos will be up on site next week. Visit here to see these photos : http://www.inkblotters.com/len.htm About 18 images, it may take a minute to load. The green/white model is the 1954 N51A and the grey/white model is the 1960 N61A. Both models are 18" wingspan, solid wood and hand painted. All models will be LE numbered and signed by Geoffrey S. Parker Production order has been placed for early orders from prior customers, delivery is sometime in Sept. Price is $250. each plus $10. UPS in U.S. Shipping safely world-wide. Production limited strictly to orders placed in this year 2002 only...order will be accepted only up to 12/31/02. All info will be up on the website very soon, but if you have any questions or wish to place your order, just send me an e-mail. Thanks, Len Provisor www.inkblotters.com www.provisorpromotions.com

HELP WITH ESTIE NIB
	7/1/2002: Mike Krut
	Hi Guys: I picked up an Estie today with a nib I have never seen before. The nib looks like a 9000 series, made of steel(?). it's silver in color with a gold shield which starts just below the breather hole and continues down the face to about 3/16" from the bottom, there are lines which begins at the bottom and proceed upward in long curving lines which curves away from the nib, the nib reads: "ESTERBROOK/RELIEF MED/OSMIRIDIUIUMTIP/MADE IN U.S.A. The feed is of the older variety, flat on the bottom and semi-round on the top. If anyone knows anything about this nib, please advise. TIA, Mike Krut

Montblanc Meisterstuck 12?
	7/1/2002: Artmansam
	Hello there ... I came across this pen at an estate sale. Etched in the center band is Meisterstuck 12 ...well, I think it’s a 12 ...the one is highly stylized and may be a 7 ...so this could be a Meisterstuck 72. At first blush I thought that the 12 was for 12k gold ...but there isn’t a “k”. I’ve been looking all over the web for pictures to properly identify this pen...even went to the library with no luck. Can someone please direct me to web page with pictures and information of vintage Meisterstucks? Thanks! Sam

Identification?
	7/1/2002: Kathy
	Hi, I hace three pens I can't identify so any help given will be much appreciated.1st.one is German made says Paul Sebastion. 2nd.is a set in box says EF USA.3rd.Advance on shirt clip.please e-mail me if you can help. Thank you,Kathy

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